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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:06PM VGSandwich said

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not to sound like an idiot or anything...but nintendo hasn't said anything about having to use there sd cards have they?

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:05PM nodnetni said

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Seriously Joystiq, How hard is it to add the Price conversions right next to the items?????

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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No HDMI? Oh that's right, they aren't pushing a movie format like...other consoles.

I'm still a bit annoyed I have to buy a separate adapter for a superior-than-wireless wired connection that should be standard.

Looks like I'll have to buy component cables as well. *sigh*

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:07PM (Unverified) said

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Price conversions would be nice. Does any SD memory card work or does it have to be a Nintendo card?

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:08PM Greg2k said

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I hope they keep the SCART connector for the PAL markets. Until I get a flat panel screen, PAL-60 with an RGB connection is the only way to go.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:11PM (Unverified) said

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Is the D-cable input for monitors? arent those called d-something?

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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Guys, 100 Yen ~ 1 Dollar. Composite cables ~ $10, everything else ~ $25.

So glad to see Nintendo supporting component this cheap at launch. 360 component is $40. Yeek.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:13PM (Unverified) said

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Hmmm...no sign yet of the Gamecube style controller/converter? Well, at least the power adapter is a decent size. Not like the Brick60.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:14PM (Unverified) said

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So because that one SD card is on sale that means all other SD cards cost that?


Love the logic!

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:14PM (Unverified) said

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"Just remember that it costs Nintendo a hefty fee to put its logo on its own products."

no, thats nintendo being its normal greedy self.
but hey im not mad at them, if people will pay for it, why not?

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:18PM Ross said

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Currently, I believe it is ~120 yen to every US dollar. That said, even adding a conversion price next to it may not be a proper estimate (the Japanese Wii price converts to $215 -- close, but led many to speculate that the US price would be $200).

The D-cable is a special input in Japan.

Any SD card will work with the Wii.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:18PM miniboss1232 said

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"Hmmm...no sign yet of the Gamecube style controller/converter?"

GameCube controller ports are under a flap on the top of the console.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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nodnetni "Seriously Joystiq, How hard is it to add the Price conversions right next to the items?"

How hard is it for you to do it yourself?

I wish the Wii didn't use Memory cards, and could save via harddrive.. I'm glad the 360/PS3 have chosen the harddrive route, I'm growing tired of memory cards..

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Im getting component.

The VGA would be nice, but 360 deserves that more :) Or my PC..

If Wii was HD maybe.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:31PM (Unverified) said

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What's that in the image, underneath the SD card? Doesn't look like a connector I'm familiar with

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:26PM (Unverified) said

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Car2oon, it has built in flash memory

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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Miniboss: Crap. That's right. I remember seeing that now in a video. My bad. I do hope they left enough room to plug in the Wavebird transmitters.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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Before some fanboy blows up over Chessasaur's comment, I'll respond kindly first. The Xbox 360's power brick is large because of the amount of power in the system. Sony won't have a brick because it'll be built into the system, hence /that/ system's size.

The Wii power adapter looks like a GC one but white. That's why it's so small: it's a souped up Gamecube, which in itself was a pretty powerful system limited by the mini-DVD format. So it's impressive that the Wii will be pumping out more power with the same size adapter and smaller system.

Are those vid cords like the Gamecube's component cables? Is the a/v out port for the Wii going to be like the component output port?

It'd be a shame if they changed AV ports that have lasted since the SNES, but I guess they need to move on.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:26PM ill trooper said

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Oh, on the sliding scale of 'Judgement by Fanboy' this is clearly a set of 'choice to keep the wonderful Wii affordable' versus the evil Sony, who does the same thing, but yet is perceived as 'Ripping us off." I know, you're going to tell me that the Wii doesn't need componant or HDMI because it's not outputing an HD signal, which isn't much of a defense for a 'next-gen' console in my eyes. Note I'm not confusing 'Resolution' with 'Graphics quality' like many here on Joystiq do... I have played the Wii and while it's fun, the lower res is a let-down. Trust me, after you get used to the Wii after a year or so, you will be disappointed that it can't be "the Wii with 360 graphics."

I'm not mad either way, but it's an interesting study in reaction and bias. As for the price, I think the rule of thumb for Yen for the last 2-3 years has been to move the decimal point over to the left two digits, making ¥2,500 approximately $25.

Suicide ninja, they aren't pushing movie formats, but Nintendo is pushing an inferior graphic resolution for 'next gen' by keeping the machine at 480p. Thankfully they are going widescreen. And I agree; it's really LAME Nintendo isn't putting an ethernet port in the system.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:27PM Dracula Jones said

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Good to know the component cable most likely won't exceed $25. Been waiting for this news for a long time!

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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nickel...dime...nickel...dime....nickel....dime....death. Oh, and GC G2 graphics/games...awesome...well, not really.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:32PM (Unverified) said

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Uh, name brand products are ALWAYS more expensive than the knock-offs.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:35PM (Unverified) said

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Since when are Japanese prices exact indicators of US prices? Isn't the 20GB PS3 going to be a little over $400 USD there, but still $500 here?

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:35PM Lorben said

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"I'm still a bit annoyed I have to buy a separate adapter for a superior-than-wireless wired connection that should be standard."

Unless you have a internet connection faster than 54Mbsec or put your Wii next to a microwave there won't be difference in performance between wireless and wired.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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Wait a second. Do you have to pay for the power adapter separately? That can't be right can it? If so, the Wii's low price is now $280? Someone please tell me that the thing comes with a power adapter.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:45PM (Unverified) said

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Anyone know is th Wii can use the Gamecube's A/V cables? Because those are like $15 rather than $25.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:38PM Dracula Jones said

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"Note: accessories with an asterix (*) besides them are pre-packaged with the Wii."

Next time read the post, Jason B.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:38PM (Unverified) said

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Ignore my last comment, I see the * portion of the post. Whew, I was really starting to worry there.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 5:55PM (Unverified) said

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SD cards...

If you live near a Fry's or have access to this "Intertubes" thing everyone keeps talking about, they have sales EVERY Friday through Tuesday, and they usually have SD or MiniSD cards on sale for a decent price. Last week, 2GB SD cards were $29 near me.

Also, Microcenter has been doing a promotion where they were giving away FREE 1 GB SD cards with a mailer.

The Wii's video port IS different. I've seen pics, and it's no longer oval shaped. It has an A shape now and it is a different plug type.

Wavebird controllers DO work. And no, no one's said if Wavebirds are compatible with VC games. At this point it's just GC titles and SSB.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:01PM vidguy said

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Let me address some of the questions here:
- direct currency conversions don't work. The Ethernet adapter will probably be USD$29.99 and the SD card $34.99 - $39.99. Other SD cards will work, so you'll pay whatever you won't for the quality of the item. Cheap 512s can be found for $15, others run upwards of $45.

- 512MB in the Wii console will be plenty for saved games for the life of the Wii. MOST users will find it sufficient for virtual console games. Users that buy tons of VC games or more than a few N64 games will need additional storage. Nintendo has not ruled out the use of external harddrives, but there's no mention of support from launch, if ever.

- Wavebird transmitters WILL fit in the Wii's GC ports. Too bad the WB doesn't work on the 2.4GHz range... otherwise the transmitters wouldn't even be needed.

- Wired is superior to wireless because of the way the technologies avoid network congestion (collisions). However, for most applications there won't be a problem. Also, because wireless is default, I doubt there will be any benefit to hardwiring the Wii. It is dissappointing that the Wii doesn't support wired out-of-the-box, though. A Cat5 jack wouldn't have required much space and surely would have added less than $1 to the cost of production.

- The Wii appears to use it's own A/V and power jack. Therefore the traditional Nintendo cables (from SNES, N64, and GC) will NOT connect the Wii.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:09PM (Unverified) said

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People are complaining about standard definition to High definition jump for the ps3 for 15 bucks, and nintendo's S-video cable is 22? Riiiiiggghhhttttt. So so worth it.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:16PM adg1034 said

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An Asterix, eh? Glad to see Joystiq blogger are up on their French cartoons.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:23PM Ross said

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adg1034-

ah, oui! ca c'est vrai. je ne realise jamais!

fixéd.

-Ross

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 6:24PM (Unverified) said

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820208042
There you go folks, $10.99 for a 50X 1GB Secure Digital card. Not a bad deal at all. Nintendo is overcharging for their's. But every company does it. For example: the Xbox 360 Hard Drive is $100 for 20GBs. That's a rip as well.

I'll be picking up a Wii preorder, and a component video cable set. And one of those SD cards from NewEgg. And unlike my PS3 order, I'll be holding onto it. I'm selling the PS3 to make money for a Wii.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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HUZAA for component cables that cost the same as the s-video ones! no more 60$ GC cable!

grapes truly are FUN

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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1 Japanese yen = 0.00836190317 U.S. dollars

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:07PM (Unverified) said

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Power adapter* (¥3,000) - $25.12
Ethernet adapter (¥2,800) - $23.45
512MB SD card (¥3,800) - $31.82
Composite input cables* (¥1,000) - $8.37
D-Cable input (¥2,500) - $20.93
S-Video input cables (¥2,500) - $20.93
Component input cables (¥2,500) - $20.93

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:10PM (Unverified) said

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512SD cards are cheap as dirt....
http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=512+sd+card

and someone else said it already, but this is the nickle, dime strategy sony was following when they decided not to include component/hdmi in EITHER of their bundles.. tsk tsk sony, don't follow ninty's lead!

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:19PM (Unverified) said

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Q: Any Wii experts out there happen to know where the classic controller is going to plug into? The cube ports, possibly? Thnx.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:23PM MosquitoControl said

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You can get name brand SD cards dirt cheap.

You'd have to be an idiot to buy the Nintendo brand. And, while I'm sure Nintendo's costs are higher since they're probably selling less... it's still a shame.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:22PM (Unverified) said

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The 'D-Cable' adaptor is not the same as a D-sub/VGA, it is a Japanese connector similar to the old Apple proprietary video connector.

The D-Cable will not work on our monitors.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/wiilaunch/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25051452

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:25PM vidguy said

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The Virtual Console controller plugs into the Wii remote just like the nunchuk attachment.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:34PM (Unverified) said

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#43-Thnx very much, vid!

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 7:52PM Anticrawl said

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Where the fuck are my VGA cables. One of the first things they promised was that it would be able to hook up to a monitor via vga connection.

Anticrawl

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 8:13PM (Unverified) said

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to all you people saying this is a nickel-dimeing sceme, are you serious?!!!!

if you want to play a game on wii all you have to pay is 250$ nothing else is required, no required additional accessories, no 1.00$ race track or .50$ car. nothing like the rumered nickel dimeing of sony.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 8:58PM (Unverified) said

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How so Tim? No matter what the system accessories are always going to be needed at some point, be it a memory card, extra controller or even games. Just like people claim 600+ to game on PS3 its gonna be 250+ to game on Wii.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 9:10PM (Unverified) said

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Besides in a sense ALL 3 companies will be "Nickel and Diming" us to death with VC games, Digital Downloads, etc etc.
Depending on how big the VC games are 512 may or may not be enough. I just hope Nintendo polishes them a bit like MS does for XBLA games or it wont be worth the 5+ dollars they'll likely charge.

Posted: Oct 13th 2006 8:33AM (Unverified) said

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anyone know if a standard PC USB ethernet adapter will work? It's basically the same thing. Being that this supports any USB storage devices i'd assume so. I that's the case, screw nintendo's adapter. I've got a belkin USB ethernet adapter. You can usually find USB ethernet adapters for around $15 online.

Posted: Oct 12th 2006 9:41PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not worried about getting too much Memory. If Nintendo was able to get every game for NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, and TG16 on the VC it would probably be 10-20GB but seeing as how that would be hugely unlikely (and expensive) it won't be very likely you'll need more than 2 GB's.

To put in in perspective, if they keep their original game size...
1000 NES games ~ 375MB (0.4GB)
1000 SNES games ~ 1000-1500MB (1-1.5GB)
1000 Genesis games ~ 1000-1500MB (1-1.5GB)
750 TG16 games ~ 750-1000 MB (0.75-1GB)
500 N64 games ~ 7500-8000 MB (7.3-7.8GB)

The game numbers are taken from a rough estimate of the number of games launched within the US for NES, and around the world for all other systems. Being that its an inflated number, the entire collection of NES, SNES, Genesis and TG16 games should easily fit on a 2 GB card and 1GB can hold roughly 32-64 N64 games. Knowing that most those games will never be released on the VC, I'm not planning on getting anything bigger than a 2GB card.

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