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Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:28AM (Unverified) said

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Even though the Final Fantasy movies bombed, I have to say I'd rather see them make an all CG Halo movie of the quality of the Halo Wars trailer. If watching the e3 Halo trailer and the Halo Wars version widescreen with surround sound didn't give you goosebumps then your dead....or a Sony fanboy ;-)

Last thing I want to see is action star of the week ending up in a Halo adaptation....

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:29AM (Unverified) said

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This is not at all surprising. Right now in blockbuster movies, for every Pirates of the Caribbean-type success there's a King Kong and a Superman Returns that doesn't do well at the box office, and even the DVD aftermarket is cooling down. Meanwhile, it's the indie films, lower-budget comedies (such as The 40 Year Old Virgin or The Break Up) and horror movies that are being succesful for studios. It's no wonder studios hesitate to finance ballooning 200 million budgets.

Besides, Peter Jackson is the new George Lucas, prone to excess once given free reign, but unfortunately for Jackson his Wignut Films doesn't have the financial independance of Lucasfilm. It's best for him to have tough studios and producers that keep his "ambition" in check; I know it would have done Lucas a world of good on his Star Wars prequels. And finally, I also don't think Halo has the mass appeal of a 200 mil movie, it sure isn't Star Wars, or even the prequels. It's a fine backdrop for a shooting game, but there's no story there to adapt to film. A Halo movie would be Advent Children-type fan service, so maybe it's best that it also goes animated and straight to video.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:32AM Royale said

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I agree with 28.

I played through Halo on my PC, online multiplayer and through single player. I also played some of Halo 2 with my nephew. I didn't like it, not just the gameplay (which sucked but while the story has some potential, it doesn't go anywhere.

Oh and LOL at 27. right...

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:33AM (Unverified) said

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Pretty smart there Francois...I didn't like Advent Children, at the end I thought it was just like Matrix Revolution's end but with big swords and feminie guys.


BOOO HALO! :D

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:33AM (Unverified) said

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RE: Francois

"A Halo movie would be Advent Children-type fan service, so maybe it's best that it also goes animated and straight to video."

Agreed. The mass market isn't there but the fanbase would eat it up if done well. Thats why I support a CG version although I didn't think about straight to HD-DVD....Hehehe.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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there is talk about a MGS movie. The only differance is that MGS has more of a story line, halo was just a run and shoot game.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6150282.html

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:37AM Starcade said

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Microsoft has suddenly found an interest an in TV and film, which although is intriguing since they're a software company, they're a software company so they have to be especially careful that it's done right. They're not Disney. And they're not Lucasfilm.

I would seriously be concerned that a first time director was helming this project too. First time directors are a HUGE gamble. More often than not, on a tehcnical picture, you DO NOT want a first time director. Anyone remember Battlefield Earth? Wing Commander?

If the movie were made, and if it were to tank, although I don't think it would affect game sales (assuming the game is good), it sure wouldn't help the Halo brand. If anything you open yourself up to mockery.

But anyway, I don't think this is the last we've heard about this or Microsoft's involvement in other media offerings. Blue Dragon on TV anyone?

Maybe Microsoft will purchase Lionsgate, and then all the sudden, project back on.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:46AM (Unverified) said

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Uwe Boll should so pick up the reigns of this movie!

Really he should, he could show off his expertese of doing things his own way!
It would make it interesting to see a Halo movie that isn't actually about the Halo game, cause I would much rather see a movie not about Halo than a movie ABOUT Halo.

Plus if it slanders Halo's name...I'm all for it.

Down with overrated games!

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:57AM (Unverified) said

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Why don't Microsoft take it to Sony Pictures. I am sure Sony Pictures be more than happy to fork up 200 million easy to get this movie made.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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I think this just goes to show the state of Hollywood. It's much like the state of video games. The big selling franchises are always the big tried and true sequels because no one is willing to put any money behind new talent. This is partially out fault and partially their fault.

Honestly, I think Neil Blomkamp with the overseeing of Peter Jackson would be fine handling a big budget flick. Peter Jacks definately has the experience. The issue with this is...who will pick the movie up? Someone will, but this definately puts a hiccup in any plans to release the movie in 2008.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 9:52AM (Unverified) said

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Some of you obviously haven't read the HALO novels. The 'story' you all complain about in the game is totally fleshed out in the novels and there is an entire canon that Bungie has (the Halo Bible) that delves deep into the Halo mythos.

This isn't just about the FPS game. It is about the entire Halo universe. Take 30 minutes to do some research into the actual story and you will find some pretty interesting things that blend religious and social aspects into a very good sci-fi story.

Halo has tons more potential then some of the formulaic crap that comes out of Hollywood these days.

-Chris

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:12AM (Unverified) said

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Chris (#57)

You know they have Doom books too. I think a series of 4. Why didn't they tap into those books for the movie?

Cause that will require them to read instead of just making a movie with the idea of game in mind.
Yeah Bungie may have the books and the "Halo Bible" but is Bungie signed on to the film in any way? I don't know that answer but if the answer is no...they won't bother with the books or that halo thingy.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:12AM Keithustus said

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pipe dream

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:45AM (Unverified) said

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@59

Bungie is in fact attached to the project. Joseph Staten, a Bungie employee, is a writer on the movie. The script was also approved by Bungie.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:45AM (Unverified) said

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The problem here is Halo fans have this bizarre notion that a Halo movie would be a massive box office draw and that simply isn't the case, get over it. I loved every minute of Halo and to a lesser extent Halo2, i'm looking forward to what Bungie do with part3 but really couldn't care less about a movie.

It doesn't matter if the books have a fantastic story, your everyday guy/family, being the people that fill movie theatres, couldn't care less about the Halo books and they're the people needed to give a movie decent takings after the fans have rushed to see it.

A straight to DVD animated feature would be perfect.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:50AM (Unverified) said

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#59:
I was not aware of the DOOM books.. so let me ask was John Carmack or iD involved in their creation at all? Bungie was involved in the books creation from the standpoint of making sure that the stories fell in line with the actual Halo universe and canon. They did not create the games out of the blue. They actually developed a detailed and deep background (again the Halo Bible) for the entire universe, including the Forerunners, the Covenant etc and built the games around that.

Before the games were even released Bungie was sending out 'teaser' emails supposedly from Cortana that to this day can be linked to parts of the games and novel stories. It is like the show LOST in the respect that so many little things can be tied together.

I don't believe MS, Bungie or anyone even remotely close to this series would let the movie turn into a 'DOOM' on the big screen. There is just too much behind the story for that to happen.

-Chris

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 10:58AM (Unverified) said

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#65...I dont know if he is involved or not.

But I don't like Lost...and I could see this movie being like Doom. More people will see it, but still Doom with maybe a bit more action.


#64

What does Joseph do for Bungie? Accountant like in Southpark Wow? HAHA joke...I don't know who he is or what he does for Bungie or what his role on film production he has :P

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 11:14AM (Unverified) said

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#42 -- Try reading our whole story as well. I mention that work continues on the film. But with almost every major studio passing on this film, the chances that it is going to get made have dropped WAY down.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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Wow...that really is bad news.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 11:48AM (Unverified) said

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I doubt Halo could recoup a $200 million budget. The rule of thumb is a movie has to make its budget amount in the US to break even. This is because theatres keep appx half of the box office, so a $200m US hit makes $100m for the studio, maybe a bit more. Then they break even with overseas theatrical and finally make any profit with DVD. Also keep in mind about $50m in advertising for a movie of this size. Add in percentage of gross based back-end deals for having big names on board (say a Peter Jackson or Speilberg) and your profits shrink even further.

On top of this "space marine" movies never do very well anyway. Even the end-all-be-all space marine movie, Aliens, did only about $90 million US. It was a success because James Cameron shot it for less than $20 million. (and because it kicked ass) All space marine movies since, such as Starship Troopers and Doom, have made significantly less than that, but with much higher budgets.

Someday though, after years of crap, someone WILL make a good videogame movie and then the floodgates will open, just like they did with all the post-Spiderman superhero movies. Considering videogames make more than comics (and Hollywood movies) and thus are more popular (I'm not even bothering to fact-check that one) it's really unfair that we can't get a quality VG-based film.

Legend of Zelda: The Movie would make serious coin though. Fantasy setting like LOTR + sword crap like Pirates of the Carribean + very beloved game + female interest = MOOLA. (Except they'd no doubt cast Orlando Bloom as Link)





Posted: Oct 20th 2006 11:49AM (Unverified) said

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Blinside,

Jason is the game's main producer and story writer. And the DOOM books were a good read...nowhere on the Halo novel(s) level, but a damn good read

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 12:02PM Noise Tank said

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>69

Your statistic about BO earnings is a little off. Most theaters and distributors these days work on something like a 9/10 relationship - that is, the distributors get .90 of every dollar from the sale of a ticket. So when you pay however much movie tickets cost these days - we'll say $10 for the sake of argument - the studio winds up with $9 and the theater only gets $1. That's why the concessions are so costly at theaters: they don't make any money off of the tickets, gotta get some scratch somewhere.

It may be a little different these days (My grandfather used to work in the theater business and explained all this to me) but the studio/distributor gets the lion's share of ticket sale money.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 12:53PM (Unverified) said

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Microsoft has the money. They should fund the entire production themselves. Then a major studio would be interested in taking up the distribution costs. Why aren't they doing this? Do they not believe in their own fabled IP?

The above is the indie movie production model. It worked for small productions like Napoleon Dynamite and Brick to large ones like Passion of the Christ.

I think something is wrong here. Microsoft expects Hollywood studios to put up all this money for a movie concept that most likely would have limited appeal. This strategy reveals a level of arrogance that turns off any movie studio executive with any clout in the industry.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 1:17PM (Unverified) said

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For the record...the doom books were horrible. Didnt follow the games (not that the games were that plot driven) at all. The Halo books are actually worth reading. I knew a few people that were non gamers that picked up the first Halo book "Fall of Reach" and actually came to me after and asked what happens next. Im hoping that if this movie does get made that the books themselves are used. Especially the back story of who Master Cheif is and how the spartans were created.

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 1:14PM (Unverified) said

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Another point I should add: George Lucas funded the Star Wars prequels with his own money. Fox took care of the distribution costs.

But this is not unusual at all -- on a smaller financial scale: There are thousands of starving artist indie filmmakers who find creative ways to fund their dream movie projects.

Microsoft has no excuse here. Do they or do they not believe in the Halo IP as a movie, to where they would fund the entire production itself? The answer is either yes or no, people. They could pay out of their own pocket Jackson and WETA to produce it. They could pick their own lead actors. They could pick their own screenplay. All without the influence and meddling of the major Hollywood studios. The distribution costs for the finished movie would most likely be picked up by one of the major studios.

So why isn't Microsoft doing this?

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 2:23PM ill trooper said

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The only thing that excited me about this was the possibility of Neil Blomkamp getting a budget behind him. Unfortunately, It's understandable that he was likely the weak pin that has paused the project, that's a huge budget and a 10% stake for M$ (eat a dick, the '$' is very appropriate here) is really out of hand. Maybe it can come together, but if Blomkamp was the weak link, Jackson likely won't carry him to the next pitch meeting.

Nice comments from Laughing target, Francois, and several others...

Quick note to the fanatical believers:
Please don't fool yourselves, playing Halo2 every night and loving it does not automatically translate into 'TEH GREAT1ST MOVIE.' You need to read more good stories, even if it's these supposedly 'amazing' 'Halo' novels mentioned here...

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 2:25PM ill trooper said

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Sorry, I meant to mention 'LaughinMan,' not 'LaughingTarget.'

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 3:36PM Tye El Czar said

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That's exactly what portfolios are for oy. Please Mr. Jackson(OOOOOH! I AM FOR REAL!) could you at leeeeeeast look at someone's background first oy?

Posted: Oct 20th 2006 7:58PM (Unverified) said

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Did you see Blokamp's work? He was fantastic. He just wasn't famous enough. Like my coworker said today, "So...Halo is being directed by some guy who did Gatorade commercials."

Posted: Oct 21st 2006 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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I still think Ridley Scott would be a much better director than Jackson or anyone.

Posted: Oct 22nd 2006 1:48AM (Unverified) said

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As horrible as I think the Halo series is, I would love to see this movie directed by Uwe Boll.

Posted: Oct 22nd 2006 2:04PM (Unverified) said

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You think that corporations are unwilling to put big money and risk on new IPs in the game biz, you're wrong,
lets see Gears of War, Red Steel, Okami was a pretty big name pre-release as well

As was Nintendogs

Posted: Oct 23rd 2006 11:16AM Firegrl said

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I can't say that I am all that disappointed on this one. Movies based off of games are not really very good, the best being Resident Evil. And how hardcore the Halo fans are, I think they would have been disappointed no matter how good the movie was. And doesn't Microsoft have enough money already? They didn't have to ask for 10% of the profits. Most actors don't even get that!

Posted: Dec 18th 2006 4:00PM (Unverified) said

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No.28, your so wrong... Halo is NOT overated. It is a great game. I think you should take that right back. People of all ages love this game! A halo movie is a great idea and would make a lot of money as I said before. So DON'T DISS HALO.

Posted: Jan 16th 2007 12:56PM (Unverified) said

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i really don't care how long it takes this movie to get made as long as it is made with high quality and care. I'd rather wait as long as 10 yrs and it set the bar for video game movies than have it being made in 2 and a half yrs and it ruin the whole experience for me and all the fans!

i am dissapointed that uni and fox backed out, but bungie and microsoft need to stop being greedy, fork over the money and actually hire a half-way decnt director to get the job done!

--Typer

Posted: Jan 19th 2007 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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i agree with 61

if they really can't find a way to make this movie turn out good then i think they should @ the very least think about a straight to DVD animated feature.

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