PSP LCD FTW over DS LOL

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Is it me or does the ds look far better in the picture up there?

The DS' image quality looks much better in that picture.

Considering that the PSP costs more, why is this surprising? What's more surprising is that the PSP's screen advantage is so little.

Actually, when I still had a PSP, I couldn't play it out in the daylight and hope to see anything, even at maximum brightness. Don't have that problem with the DS. So, take that for whatever it's worth.

Lab tests are all fine and dandy, but any other first hand accounts out there?

Usually I wouldn't care less about what is said regarding DS as I don't want one, but is this LCD thing something that PSP fans can really go boasting about?

"Whoa, look at me, I have better picture quality then you, haha, DS is owned!" Cant see that happening -_-"

News is pointless to me :P And that last bit about Nintendumb was a bit out of order, gives no hints they are kidding either :S Which 5yr old came up with that nick name?

One thing they forgot to mention. PSP suffers from terrible ghosting where the DS does not.

Look at that bulged-out hinge...I bet their DS has the "crack of doom" that taunted all those DS Lite owners who open it all the way to the last click.

lol

And of course, the DS is spanking the PSP in sales. Moral? Technology does not always make the success of the machine.

SPOILERS;
Brightness does not equal picture quality. Higher contrast rating equals better sharpness and overall quality. And PSP's screen is bigger, has more pixels and can have more dpi which equals in better overall quality.

People who dont know this are fucking stupid and need to lurk more. Like Kyle Orland over there.

The ghosting on psp makes driving around in Liberty City Stories a queasy experience. Not to mention the slippery mentos mint they call a joystick.

Wow, what a pointless waste of tax payer's money.

The PSP's horrible motion blur/motion trails/ghosting pretty much killed the product for me. (And yes, I have a PSP.)

It's ridiculous that the comparision did not take this into account. Apparently, the reviewer was only interested in comparing numbers and didn't bother to use his own eyes. It's like evaluating a car based on obtuse qualities like the air pressure in the tires and the decible rating of the muffler.

did anyone mention dead pixels

9.) Agent Moo: That's not ghosting of the screen. It's the game. The original GTA had some strange motion-blurry ghosting feature that for reasons I cannot fathom they force on you with no way to turn it off. I agree, it sucks, but it's not the hardware's fault.

Honestly? The DS lite's ability to display a consistent picture rain or shine is pretty amazing, and the PSP's resolution is way higher than the DS screens. In the end, which one would I rather play? The DS. Why? It's plain more fun to play. Graphics are no longer the deciding factor in video games. We have seen it all now, and the experience is getting repetitive, Nintendo is making gaming new with the DS and Wii. The Wii is to DS as the PS3 is to the PSP. In the end Wii wont have the graphics, "OMG 480P w/component Cable no HDMI 1080P suxors." The experience will be new, and with graphics seen in Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess, I am plenty satisfied, and so are many others. The graphics aren't worth the cost and same-old gameplay. IMO

B+ over B, big deal. I am the only person I know who actually owns a PSP and its nothing to gloat about.
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...It's funny how the DS's picture looks much more pleasing than the PSP's in the picture above.

I think the important thing that everybody is glossing over is the simple equation of TWO screens is better than ONE screen. I mean, there's twice as many! Clearly superior product!

Oh, and to the profane Mr. Dunder: Neither brightness nor constrast ratio guarantees quality. Contrast ratio describes the difference between the darkest black and brightest white. A lot of cheap displays have high contrast ratios, but that's only because they have an eye-burning maximum brightness. The darkest black is usually just a charcoal gray, and this makes dimly lit content look terribly washed out.

It's pure marketing speak to suggest that the contrast ratio affects "sharpness." Sharpness describes how clean and detailed the content looks (as opposed to blurry or chunky) and it's mostly a factor of pixels-per-inch (i.e., dpi). PSP wins there, no contest.

And again, Nintendrones cannot accept any statement of PSP superiority.

Naturally, they seize on the response rate ghosting. While it does affect video and some games more than others, I can't say anything has made me 'queasy' or rendered the game unplayable. Most games have very slight to no smearing. If you sample video at too high a framerate and don't run a filter to lessen blacks, you can get some pretty serious smearing. UMD vids seem to avoid this with a slightly lowered framerate.

I've had both since before their respective US launches. The PSP can display more color and the ASV amorphous si TFT display from Sharp/Samsung does an excellent job with color accuracy. Compared to the DS Lite which seems a bit blown out and oversaturated, the PSP does a slightly better job overall.

The DS Lite is definitely brighter, which in turn puts the device a tad under the PSP in terms of battery life when cranked to full. It's also not really necessary to have it on full blast all the time, especially indoors. Some games (there will be fewer of these over time) don't look so great on the Lite, since the devs had to deal with the murky fogginess of the Phat screens.

Why is it every time someone points out something that isn't PERFECT about the DS, an army of spazzing Nintyfreaks MUST ATTACK? Christ. Mac Freaks should indeed clutch their 'technozealot' awards, because here come the AGGRO HORDES OF NINTENDITES.

NanoGator: GTA III and GTA: VC did intentionally turn on 'motion trails' this was a graphic effect used to give the impression of a higher frame rate.

This is not the case with GTA: Liberty City Stories on the PSP. There is no option to turn it off, because it's the screen. It's particularly obvious when a black object is moving across a light background. Dressing Toni in black and walking around the city is just asking for trouble. '

The ghosting is visible in any other game made for the PSP. I've seen it plenty of times in Tony Hawk's Underground, for example. Just stand still and watch pedestrians walk by and you'll see happy little trails following them everywhere. Yay Sony!

20: Chris: I'm not saying the screen doesn't ghost at all. You are, however, incorrect that the trails aren't on in Liberty City Stories. Look more closely as the behaviour of the trails when the game slows down. You'll notice that they're visible longer when the frame rate drops. Also notice that the PSP's menu system doesn't ghost like that at all. Rockstar forced that feature to be on. I don't know why they elected to do that, but that's the majority of what you're seeing.

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Both screens have their strengths and weaknesses - DS lite is a little oversaturated and betrays its 65K palette when doing fade outs/color banding. These are small crimes compared to the PSPs response rate induced blurring. Take a look at Ghouls and Ghosts, Rolling Thunder (on Namco greatest hits), any of the Gradius games (you can only see the starfield when paused - wtf!). Not such a big problem when shifting polygons around compared to 16-bit era sprites. Can't wait to see how Contra and Gradius look on the DS...and don't mention the diagonals.

"The DS Lite is definitely brighter, which in turn puts the device a tad under the PSP in terms of battery life when cranked to full."

wait, what?
I charge my ds lite once a week and play for a couple of hours a day, always on full brightness (damn you animal crossing!) while my friend with a PSP has to make sure he carries his charge cable with him because when he tries to play it on the train to work every day it dies out.

but who cares if one screen is ever so slightly better than the other? buy the one that you like the games on. obviously mine is ds while my friends is psp, but guess what, we don't mindlessly attack eachother for having differing opinions (something that most of you don't seem to grasp)
The moment you start to value someones self worth by what video game they prefer to play is the moment you should put the games down and really look at yourself.

my snoopy snow cone maker is obviously better than your easy bake oven!

Nintendo Fanboys:

Two screens, better games regardless, ghosting on the PSP.

Sony Fanboys:

Larger screen, self dislusion about inferior PSP games, flat out denial about ghosting.

This article just proves that even though the PSP has slightly better screen resolution and size, it still doesn't matter if the games suck.

I've also noticed throughout my travels how SFBs are almost completly lost touch with reality and can't form a self rational opinion to save themselves. Every argument put forth by them is formulated beforehand by popular opinion and/or current Sony business ideals.

Let's take the example of the Wii-mote directly after the TGS showing. Immediaty every SFB bashes it for two reasons.

A: Sony isn't doing it so it must be inferior.
B: All of the other SFBs is bashing it so I must to be cool. Which frankly explains alot about a SFB, wanting to look cool. (But that is another argument)

Flash forward to post E3 2006. Sony shows off the duel shake, and every single SFB changes his/her mind right on the spot. WHY?

A: Because now Sony is using motion sensing technology.
B: Because in order not to alienate yourself from your 'friends' you agree with them.

This also leads into the SFBs who finally snapped out of it after 10 years and finally see how messed up Sony actually is. Those people you see on the internet and around in real life who will not get a PS3 for multiple reasons. This is important becuase these people are actually forming their own sense of quality for once.

I've collected multiple case studies throughout my wandering and random poking of people I think are gamers. What I have seen from this non-internet savvy people (not us) is exactly what I stated above.

"Also notice that the PSP's menu system doesn't ghost like that at all."

That's because it doesn't have a high contrast difference and the menu doesn't exactly have fast motion in it. The ghosting on the PSP is when there's a very dark group of pixels moving through a group of much brighter pixels. It's very noticeable and is the screen, not a feature that can be turned on or off.

a. I am not a Sony Fanboy. I'm actually a Nintendo fanboy. (I'm also a GTA fanboy, hence why I have a PSP.)

b. I'm not in denial about ghosting on the PSP. My point is simply that Liberty City Stories has a feature that makes it look like it's ghosting really bad. If other games ghost, I have nothing to say about it. I haven't played them. LCS, however, ghosts because the game is set up to. All one has to do is watch the game for a bit (and notice the non-ghosting bits of the game, like the Rockstar logo flying onto the screen.) and go "Oh, yeah, it's the ghosting feature the original PS2 version of GTA3 had."

Even though I'm a Nintendo fanboy, I am not going to spread untrue bs about Sony's products. Sony's doing a great job of destroying their own PR without my help.

"Nintendumb fans! LOL!!!!!!1one"

I should say that was a funny, clever, ironic remark from a professional journalist on a brilliant site.

But none of that would be true...

Leave the comments to us please.

Why is it every time someone points out something that isn't PERFECT about the PSP, a spazzing Sony freak like Pixelator MUST ATTACK?

I so love Pixie’s ridiculously transparent attempts to pretend that he isn’t a drooling Sonybot, while attacking Nintendo fans for being too fanboyish. It’s cute.

I hear spectroradiometers are buying a lot of games these days... ;)

wow, the fanboys are crazy
psp has a better screen . . . face the facts, don't make stupid arguments.

Meh could'nt care less, i own both and use them for completely different games. anyone who jumps up and down defending any company needs to take a jump off a cliff

Same here Chris M.

@Bob
I have trouble seeing both in direct sunlight, so no difference there. Recently tho.. Tiger woods golf 2007 is giving my PSP alot more play time than Children of mana is giving my DS rofl. GOD DAMNED TIGER WOODS FOR BEING SO ADDICTING ; ; 30hours played in one week.

But honestly, guys come on. The PSP screen is better than the DS screens. Doesn't mean the system is more/less fun to play. Doesn't mean the system sucks/unsucks. Doesn't mean the system sells less/more. All it means, is the PSP screen is better. Somewhere it is mentioned that the PSP could get a firmware update to bring the PSP screen rating from a B+ to an A (could just be for the memory stick movies, since umd went the way of crap), I hope they do that soon :) Cause really, who is it all about? Nintendo? Sony? or Me?

#18,

I get 5-6 hours of life on my DS Lite at the brightest setting, which is still higher than the PSP's life at the lowest brightness setting. And what's this bullshit about DS Phat games looking worse on the DS Lite? I've yet to see a game that looks worse on the DS Lite that I played on the DS Phat, and you have the option of setting the brightness down somewhere close to the DS Phat's.

All I can say about that article is that someone spent a lot of time to prove very little about something that doesn't matter near as much as anyone would like to think it does.

They had three rankings at the end and a final grade. PSP wone 1, DS, won 1, the third was hard to compare for a real result, and the final grades matched. Nothing proved.

And to the guy complaining about NFB's not acknowledging superiority. Fine, I'll acknowledge it. The PSP is a more powerful piece of hardware. It can play movies and music, and surf the web, and play games. Guess waht though, my cell phone does all that and cost me less, and I don't feel like playing the games. Machine power means nothing if the other machine outsells it.

Now, your turn to note that the GameCube is superior in quality to the PS2. I'll go ahead and advance you my acknowledgement that it meant nothing since the Cube's lunch was eaten when it came to sales and game support.

I can't beleive there are people stupid enough to be claiming PSPs games suck. Honestly, grow a pair, and actually try some.