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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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Microsoft owning Rare hasn't kept them from porting all the DKC games to the GBA, and don't forget about Diddy Kong Racing for the DS. It shouldn't be a problem, since the Kongs and Kremlings are officially Nintendo's characters, but who knows... I thought all of this had been taken care of before the buyout was official.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:53PM (Unverified) said

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Toejam & Earl. Thank you, baby Jesus.

Please tell me online co-op is an option!
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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I've heard rumors that we are missing some games because Nintendo is expecting to do a monthly update, and since we are getting our system almost a month before japan, we will get one update with a bunch of the games they are getting right as they get their launch
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:23PM ashram said

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well, on the tg-16 side, with the exception of New Adventure Island, the other games have never left japan, so no legit english version exists. it would be nice if these games that never had an enlish release were translated for the US and europe...
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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US isnt getting Super Mario Bros. at launch... WTF?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:07PM mykie said

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Yeah, I'd better be getting Super Mario World and Link to the Past in a more now-like fashion.

Really, it's all I ask! (not really)
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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@killcount

But what about Europe?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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Worth noting: Puyo Puyo was released on the SNES as Kirby's Avalanche. I'm a little curious as to why they decided to put the Genesis version up instead of either the original or the SNES version.

I imagine there are still some discussions with some companies' games. Like for Square Enix - which translations are they going to use? Will they get to bring out the original versions (I'd be all over Secret of Mana if they release the non-gimped version).

It doesn't have every game I'd want to download, but it's a decent start. Now if only the Japanese list was available to the other two regions.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:18PM (Unverified) said

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No Zelda - Link to the Past in Europe? NOOOOOO!
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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Japan gets everything, everywhere else gets screwed (See: Club Nintendo)

Does this mean if you import one from Japan you get more VC games??
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:19PM (Unverified) said

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Let's not forget that Japan gets lower pricing for Genesis games!

Ridiculous that the rest of us have to pay that much.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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On Wii launch day I can play over 50 SNES and 70+ NES games. How? I kept my old consoles.

Hey-o!
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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Um, depends on how they check regions... they could use ips as a way to block that....

hrm.. where are you importing from? not lik-sang.com
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:18PM falcomadol said

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Disparate doesn't even begin to describe it.

Bomberman '94 on the PCE is the 2nd best Bomberman game ever, behind only Saturn Bomberman.

Bomberman '93 was good, but didn't have anything remotely similar to that sort of massive world adventure experience.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:18PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with killcount(#3) the wii launches in NA in the middle of Nov. These are only the games to be launched by years end that's only a month and a half. They said they would launch about 10 games per month so come Jan probably a lot of complaints concerning this list will be different. With that said I still wonder why they didn't include some of their biggest pushers right off the back and wait til Jan for some of the other titles on the list.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:34PM (Unverified) said

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hrm....

regions locking screw us over yet again.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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Don'T forget that you don't just release a title on the Virtual Console by pushing the original ROMs through the internet to the Wii's... I'm pretty sure they require in-depth QA of the games, to make sure whichever emulator the Wii runs support them fully.

And since the original games probably weren't bug-free int he first place, it turns into comparative QA, whihc can take a long time.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 5:19PM (Unverified) said

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seriously, Nintendo.
i'll love you with all my face if u give us some import games on the VC.

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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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here is a thought (gasp!) there are people in NA/Europe markets that can read/comprehend japanese.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:53PM (Unverified) said

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So, we get DKC, even though it's a Rare game.

I'll ask the question then: WHAT ABOUT GOLDENEYE?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:57PM Ross said

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Huzzah, I was thinking the same thing when I posted this (how can we pull off a Japanese Wii account?), but for now I am hoping that with time we'll see most of the titles come through. Square Enix titles, for example.

That there's only one Nintendo 64 title available at launch, which is half of the abysmal N64 lineup when it actually launched, is a bit peculiar. Point is, the list better be updated often.

Blast Corps. Mmm.

For those thinking, "if DKC, why not other Rare titles?" there might be an issue with that thought process. Donkey Kong Country, really, is a no-brainer since its a Nintendo license. However, Killer Instict and Goldeneye might be owned by Rare. Bit of a tricky situation, that is. Who knows if they'll end up on VC, XBLA, or anything.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:03PM (Unverified) said

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I'm excited for Toejam & Earl. Surprisingly few SNES games I thought, but I guess they've gotta hold something back :)
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:07PM (Unverified) said

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Yakko: Yeah, in cases like this I am always left wondering if they even understand the concept of doing a cost/benefit analysis. It would cost them almost nothing at all to offer Japanese games to all regions. Have a setting buried somewhere deep in the options menu somewhere that lets you turn on "List Japanese-language games" so the majority of people won't accidentally end up buying a game they can't understand. Coming up with region coding and protecting it and all that jazz? Costs money. Maybe not a lot, but a whole lot more than just not bothering in the first place.

And TG-16 games? Sweet. Where are Neutopia I and II?

I really gotta read more about the Wii. Any word on the Phantasy Star games for the Genesis, you know the single player ones that don't suck donkey testicles? Are these games direct emulations, or do they have some upgrades like save-anywhere functionality, achievements, shared high score lists, etc?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:17PM (Unverified) said

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I highly doubt Goldeneye in any case, maybe perfect dark. The problem with Goldeneye is that the license for James Bond and 007 are not held by Rare, MS, or Nintendo. That's actually the reason why we got Perfect Dark instead of another 007 game with the same engine. But this is old news.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:30PM (Unverified) said

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Many of Nintendo's "big hitters" from the NES and SNES eras have been ported to the GBA, including Super Mario World and Link's Awakening that have just been discounted to Player's Choice in North America. Even though the Game Boy is on its last legs, it looks as though Nintendo wants to ride it in another holiday period. Releasing those titles on Virtual Console before Christmas would hurt potential Game Boy sales. It may not be the reason, but it's a possible one. Those games are surely on the high priority list for the promised monthly updates.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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"Releasing those titles on Virtual Console before Christmas would hurt potential Game Boy sales."

Game Boy sales > Wii sales?

Oh God, I hope you didn't inspire another economics article by Vlad.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:43PM (Unverified) said

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where is my super metroid nintendo?

the game was considered the best game of the last decade......you have failed to port it or renew it...I have already bought 2+ copies of the SNES version (all get lost as well ;-;)
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 8:48PM (Unverified) said

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Holy shit, gunstar heroes! Best genesis game there is. Also looking forward to Wario's Woods, which is what i spent 99% of my time in Animal Crossing playing.

Bit disappointed about the lack of super mario, world, and zelda. But they will be there soon enough... right?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 5:04PM DarkTetsuya said

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First off it's Solomon's Key (singular).

As for the rest of the list, what's up with the heavy hitters (SMB, Gradius, Zelda LttP, etc.) not being US VC launch titles?

Lastly, I want Battle Lode Runner damnit!



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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 6:12PM (Unverified) said

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I agree with the idea that Donkey Kong Country has been ported so many times over here that they felt they didn't quite NEED to give it out immediately (Its been ported to BOTH the GBC AND GBA)

America got a saturation of DKC, and they figured anyone who wanted it had it by now (although the same could be said of Mario Bros cuz of all the GBA remakes, but we get it)

Oh, and because of the fact that Nintendo PUBLISHED and owns all the rights too all the Donkey Kong characters (save Conker, but he's a gray area) means no DK360 (thank god)

Now lets all scream "EarthBound! EarthBound! EarthBound!"
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2006 9:36AM (Unverified) said

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After reviewing the list... The only thing I could think of was

"That's fair"

Please note I'm being sarcastic.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 6:05PM (Unverified) said

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We definitely won't get Perfect Dark, Banjo, Conker, or any other uniquely Rare titles on VC, since Rare kept the rights to those. Only Rare games with Nintendo licensed characters, like the DK games. I wonder where Diddy Kong Racing fits into that, since it has both?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 6:43PM (Unverified) said

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This is why I'm an emulator fan...I absolutely CANNOT wait for New Adventure Island. Have to play that NOW!

The best part of the whole Virtual Console thing is that it really reveals where people's interest lies. All this bragging Wii users have done about their great chance to rebuy a handful of mostly junky, all-outdated games...it really shows how important nostalgia can be for some. Which explains why the constant parade of awful games with Mario's face slapped around everywhere still sell. Which to me is the definition of blasphemous...it would be like buying tacky Nirvana branded candy or Wilt Chamberlin condoms. The abject commercialization of Mario in the kart/party/tennis/striker/dress-up adventure/whatever vein seems like needless pissing in the face of the greatness of the original Mario games.

Ok, that was about as random as rants come...but what the hell.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 7:00PM SgtSnapp said

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I love that someone mentions the "Wii emulator" that is running these games. Virtual Console... what a joke.

"Dear public, please buy our old, out-dated, and used games for more than some are even worth. We'll make a lot of money and you'll get to play them for 5 minutes before getting bored. Regards, Reggie."

Come on Nintendo, gimme something new. I want to see games like fl0w or Geometry Wars. Why am I being sold old games I've already played that will hardly even work with your pack in Wii-mote thus forcing another $20 sale.

Where is the multiplayer online for these back catalog titles? Where is the graphical enhancements for 480p?

People bitch and moan about Microsoft and their XBLA, but in the end they're delivering both retro and new, unique games. They're adding multiplayer online and graphical enhancements for $5. Sony is going after new games as well like fl0w.

A vast back catalog isn't going to save Nintendo in the end.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 8:00PM JoshMilewski said

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I just really want either (or both):

(a) All of these games in all regions, no matter what language they are in (just make it obvious) AND/OR

(b) Proper translations for all of the games that will be released in just one region so that they can be released in other regions.

Seriously, it's not hard or expensive. Just do it, Nintendo and third parties. Don't be lazy.
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 9:35PM (Unverified) said

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Hell yes! Gunstar heroes!

@Everybody worried about missing favorites: They'll be there... eventually. You can't just have everything awesome from the get-go. Add a few every month, people keep buying.

@32 Snap
What are you TALKING about? You've no idea of the power of nostalgia, do you?
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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 11:39PM (Unverified) said

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Bomberman '93 seals it. I'm buying a Wii at launch.
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Posted: Nov 2nd 2006 5:12AM (Unverified) said

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Oh good, the UK gets shafted again. A conversion rate of 100 Wii points per £1, when that amount should be buying me 190 Wii points. And, unless I missed it, there is still no confirmation if we can play WiiVC games online or not. Bomberman online would be worth £6 ($11) to me, but I'll be pissed that I can't get it for the £3 that the Americans can get it for. Offline only = No sale. (I can already play Bomberman multiplayer on several of my consoles.)

Looks like I'll be buying less of them than I originally thought I would. BAD move, Nintendo.
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