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Posted: Nov 1st 2006 1:36PM anoffday said

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I thought the game sucked. Haven't played it since launch.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 1:43PM (Unverified) said

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Facility, like... the Goldeneye level?

And I too played the game and didn't enjoy it.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 1:49PM (Unverified) said

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Facility like the Perfect Dark for Nintendo 64 I bet.

I might play this game a few times with the new maps... but then I am right back to GRAW and some Rainbow6 Vegas demo.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 1:55PM (Unverified) said

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It's a good game that people expected to get immediately blown away by. It took some time to dig through, but if people were to pick it back up, play with the enhanced bots, and play on harder difficulties, it would become a sleeper hit. Wait, not a sleeper. A hibernator.

If you have this game and haven't played it for ages, download the updates and play a few matches with bots in Dark Ops. You might get a taste for this game. It's no masterpiece, but it is definately fun.

You really had to peel this onion...and sautee it...before you got hooked.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:13PM (Unverified) said

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Games I've owned since launch:
Madden 06
COD2
PD0
Dead Rising
Full Auto
NFSMW
NCAA 07
GRAW
BF2:MC
Kameo
Condemned
GUN
Fight Night

Of all those, I only currently own GRAW and PD0 as those are the only only ones I still have interest in playing. I enjoyed most if not all of the list above, but I can't see completely parting with 2 titles and PD0 is one of them. Though I will be picking up GoW and R6:Vegas, no doubt.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:16PM KTXL said

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jc:

Technically speaking, "Facility" is the map from goldeneye, and "Felicity" is the map from Perfect Dark.

Damn. This makes me wish I didn't trade in my copy. I want to at least check these maps out.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:23PM Telprydain said

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PDZ was a solid FPS – unfortunately most people wanted it (the first 360 FPS and the sequel to a fan favourite) to be a lot better then it was. The single player is solid, but fairly uninspired (undoubtedly the reason for most of the ill-will) - but the co-op was fun and the multiplayer is excellent.
The multiplayer has a wide range of game-types, from capture the flag, to deathmatch, to ‘counter-strike’ style matches.
The only real problem is that it seems to suffer from the “kiddie” problem that Halo has. It is overrun with ass-hat 12-year olds. But if you can stand Halo2, this shouldn’t be a problem.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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I just got into this game. I was led to beleive it would be crap but when I got my hands on multiplayer I havent been able to let it down. I just returned the game to my friend sadly but I ordered the collectors edition on amazon new for $20. What a great deal. Couldnt of been a better time to release new material for this. GJ Rare!

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 2:41PM (Unverified) said

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I havent played it in a long time, but the multiplayer is great if you can get over the fact that you can't jump.

It offeres a LOT of gameplay options and customizeable bots that can be really easy or insanely hard.

If you have a group of people to play with, its really really fun and totally worth the $20-$30 you'd spend on it.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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I got my 360 and PD0 at launch and still really dig this game, but I haven't played it in a while b/c I haven't been able to find a time that would work w/my friends who I ususally play with. I really thought the four new maps (which I think are free now, no?) were terrific. For multiplayer matches, the Dark Ops games are pretty fun, though I've yet to play sabotage.

But there are a lot of different gameplay types, and the ability to add bots of varying skill/personality is something that all FPS games should have in multiplayer at this point, although I'd wish the bots in some of the scenarios were a little smarter and didn't just run over your mines after you throw them down. I think people really bag on this game too much b/c of mediocre single player, lack of auto aim and cartoony, rather than realistic graphics. I personally don't need every single shooter game to have characters look as realistic as possible.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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I really enjoy this game. I was a major fan of the first one, and although this one is no where near as good, I still like it a lot. Playing on these classic maps is amazing, i guess due soley to nostalgia. But if you have the game you should download them for sure. It makes the game so much better if you ever played goldeneye or perfect dark.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:02PM (Unverified) said

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The single player was OK. What kept me playing was Dark Ops. Now, excuse me, I've got a date with nostalgia.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:32PM jigsawhc said

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I still play it when I want a game where I can play multiplayer online, but I don't want to have to think to strategically.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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I was hoping some of the original PerfectDark maps would make it to PD0...

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 4:48PM AoE said

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Multiplayer is decently fun, especially when playing with buddies that either aren't very into FPS, or aren't very good at them; it's simple/easy enough that everyone can enjoy themselves (I've found) so I'll defiantly check out the new maps, though I'll admit my copy of PD0 is a bit dusty.

I'm tripping on the fact that people actually found the single-player playable, let alone enjoyable though; did we play the same game?! The perfect dark zero I played had no jump, but levels built in such a way that at almost every turn jumping/climbing over some chest-high wall/crate/railing/whatever would have been the most logical course of action. It had brain-dead AI that would never flip the script, "gadgets" that felt like nothing more than bad gimmicks, and level design that was so terrible they had to supply you with arrows to point the way! I tried really hard to get into this game, especially after i'd exhausted all of the single-player goodness CoD2 and Condemend could provide... I boggles my mind that people found the same game actually enjoyable...

Out of curiosity, to everyone that enjoyed the single-player campaign... are you fans of rare's previous fps (I've never played them myself)? And do you normally play fps, or was PD0 kind of a deviation from your normal genres of choice? And if you're actually a big fps fan, what other fps delivered a single-player campaign you found enjoyable (Halo aside, I'll just assume we all agree on that series)?

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 5:59PM Kinetic said

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I downloaded it just to see the look on my brothers face when he thought i was playing goldeneye on my 360. I swear it was like telling a 7 year old santa came early!

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 7:09PM (Unverified) said

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#15 I'm interested in answering your questions.

First, the first FPS from Rare are excellent, near perfection. They leaved a legacy on gaming, on the FPS side. Obviously, the creators from such great FPS on Rare, have already their own company aside, that is the one that made the game TimeSplitters (I actually enjoyed the TimeSplitters 2 (which it would be a perfect game if it had any online capabilities back on the time)).

Second, PD0 I found it a little different of what would be a good FPS, actually I found it so different that I started to guess if this was a mediocre title (aside from the graphics that are excellent, although I don't like much of the characters model). Why mediocre? Because, it wasn't as fun as Goldeneye or Perfect Dark (original). Remember, the creators don't work anymore at Rare, this can be a reason of why PD0 lacked of gameplay and a good story too.

This doesn't exclude the fact, that a lot can be done to this rare form of FPS.

Third, WOW... Good FPS, thats difficult. I always like the Call of Duty games. The Valve collection of FPS are good quality, for example: Half-Life, Counter Strike, etc. I'm not a big fan of Battlefield, because I had bad experiences with the game, but dont take my word for it, because millions of people play that serie. There a really good FPS that is called Black Hawk Down and Joint Operations, those are hours of fun online with 150 people playing on a single server. Well those are the ones that come to my mind, most of them are for playing on PC. On console I must say that TimeSplitters 2 is pretty good, and Halo.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 7:35PM (Unverified) said

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True when most people played this game they said it sucked, but it takes a little getting use to. You have to give them credit for trying to do something different for a launch title. True I would prefer jumping over rolling but it puts a different aspect on the game. We all have to remember that every game is not Halo.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 7:36PM (Unverified) said

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The game just needs to grow up the first one got a M rating on the N64 and tried to push realism as far as the human characters were concerned, but PD0 did not. I still like the game but I hope the series grows up after this and doesn't look like a shiny cartoon next time.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 7:48PM (Unverified) said

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Adding to my last post:

On the online aspect of the game, its a very fun to play it. The bots thing, add totally new experiences to the game, due to the fact that all the maps are clearly huge.

Don't get me wrong with the term "mediocre" to categorize the game. It has its own charm, but I most confess that the gameplay its totally different for what I was expecting (I was expecting something like Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark (the original), but we must remember that those were other times developers want to try new ways on how to captize the audience, and they didn't failed with this one).

I came to play the game, with a prejudice perspective.

I hope that my answer serves you well.

Posted: Nov 1st 2006 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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I just bought a used copy of perfect dark, but I wasn't impressed. The graphics were truly Xbox 1.5 and the gameplay wasn't that much better. I am going to have to play it a little bit longer before I have my true of opinion. But it does make me happy that a developer would continue to support a game this far out from its launch.

Posted: Nov 2nd 2006 6:13AM Don Jose said

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I love this game. Best multiplayer FPS on 360, IMO. Single player wasn't awesome, but I did play entirely through it a few times, which is more than I can say for Halo 2. That took about 30 min. to get old.

Great story mode co-op, too.

I posted a request for throwback maps on the Xbox forums a few months back. I doubt anyone noticed it, but it's nice to see that someone, somewhere decided to do this.

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