Microsoft's Scott Henson on TV and movies

As rumored, Microsoft announced a new feature last night allowing high-definition movie and television downloads directly to your 360's hard drive. Yeah, the same hard drive you already have ... there's no accompanying drive announcement. Of course, this introduced any number of questions regarding the viability of such a strategy; luckily, we recently had a chance to speak with Scott Henson, director of platform strategy for the Xbox 360, to get some more details on the service, due to launch on November 22nd.
Henson told us that the files would indeed be stored locally on the 360's optional hard drive unit; there would not be an option to stream videos from your Windows computer (after all, there are already ways to do that). The files will (predictably) be in Microsoft's proprietary WMV format, which has already proven to be a reliable delivery mechanism for HD content. Using this codec, they estimate a 22 minute high-definition television program (sans commercials) will weigh in at approximately 1GB, while the standard definition variant (which you will automatically own as well) will top out around 300MB. Due to bandwidth considerations, storage realities, and their insistence that 720p is the "sweet spot" for high-definition content, all Marketplace movies and television shows (like the existing trailers) will max out at 720p.

While you won't be able to stream content to your 'box, they have employed queuing technology to expedite the download wait. While a 22 minute television show may take as little as 30 minutes to download over a 6mb/s cable connection, you'll be able to start watching the high-definition version after just 2 minutes, and the standard definition version immediately.
But what if you're not sitting in front of the box, watching the download meter inch along? Henson said you'll have two weeks to start that downloaded movie rental and, once you have, you'll have 24 hours to finish it. Inside that 24 hour window, you'll be allowed to watch the rental as many times as you like. The television shows are download to own, similar to the iTunes Store. If you get a new hard drive, you'll be able to download them over again, as many times as you like. If you're not sure which episode you want to download, there's a text and video preview to refresh that failing memory.

Of course, several major components of this announcement are still unclear. Most notably, the cost (payable in Microsoft Points of course) and the future availability of a larger hard drive. Henson did advise that the cost of the SD television downloads would be commensurate with other offerings in the space (read: iTunes $2 television downloads) but that the HD downloads would command a premium (we're similarly unsure of that price delta). Another unclear aspect is Zune integration. While the Fall update added the ability to watch movies stored on the Zune, you'll be unable to move them the other way. When asked, Henson said this functionality "made sense," but there were no plans to announce anything specific.
As a a strategic move, the decision to offer downloadable movies and television shows dovetails neatly with Microsoft's strategy to weaken Blu-ray. If you believe that they want HD-DVD to fail, then this is a harbinger of a larger push to deliver content directly to consumers. With rumors still rumbling of DirecTV and IPTV integration, this may be the beginning of a format war much larger than Blu-ray versus HD-DVD. The question now is, will Sony offer a competitive service using their considerable Hollywood leverage (they do own a movie studio after all), and their HDD-equipped PS3s?
For more pics of the service, due to launch on November 22nd, check out Engadget.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Tom @ Nov 7th 2006 1:22PM
Does anyone know if it would then be possible to connect my VGA out from the 360 into my PC and record this content?
DeezNuts420 @ Nov 7th 2006 1:23PM
Your move Sony!
Chris @ Nov 7th 2006 1:32PM
Want to record the movies you "rent" on xbox live easy if you have a dvd recorder. Simply hook the 360 directly up to the input on the dvd recorder and then plus the recorder into the tv. Now most people do not have stand alone dvd recorders but if you do like me well your in luck
Spilt_Milk @ Nov 7th 2006 1:35PM
Perhaps you can stream the content to your pc?
Jason Gonzalez @ Nov 7th 2006 1:40PM
There was a posting a couple of weeks back about how MS was losing tons of cash on the 360. I argued then that it didn't matter because a) MS is huge, and a couple billion is a drop in the bucket and b) the 360 is just a small part of a much larger integration strategy. I would be shocked if the Zune didn't at some point (maybe not right away) have the ability to share the content stored on the 360. With the wifi capability of the Zune, I wouldn't be surprised if they allowed remote content access as well. MS is trying to dominate your livingroom.
USP45 @ Nov 8th 2006 1:41PM
720p sweet spot that's a joke, I love how Bill Gates whores spin the weaknesses of the 360. I just love the shitty content that they are gonna have and how they are going to have ms bitches pay for shit they can get for free.
Sony is just going to rape them. Sony owns a lot of great content that the 360 will never have and all the shit that the 360 puts out is going to be available for everyone. This is just another lame attempt from ms to try and match PS3 funtionality.
> @ Nov 7th 2006 1:39PM
Its only a matter of time before someone cracks the HD movie DRM and a pile of fine 720p content shows up on bittorrent.
Anyways, good move by MS.
Now, if they want to make this appeal beyond their xbox demographic, they need to drop that MS Points non-sense and start using real money like the rest of the world. If you're a casual xbox user, you dont care about MS Points.. you just want to watch a movie.
Mike @ Nov 7th 2006 1:43PM
it would be cool if like some episodes or movies are like 100 points
007craft @ Nov 7th 2006 1:45PM
hey chris, too bad DVd recorders are all standerd def. even the so called HD ones is still not true HD, so you cant record to HD regardles. For SD however, record away. heck, you can even record onto your computer with a tv capture card, which most people have by now.
JodyAnthony @ Nov 7th 2006 1:44PM
this is an awesome idea. maybe I should pick up a 360 when the price drops
Chappy @ Nov 7th 2006 1:49PM
Am I the only 360 owner who already owns an HD-capable DVR and subscribes to digital cable television? All this pay-$4-per-episode television strategy seems to be is an attempt by Microsoft to get me to pay them for something I'm already paying Comcast for... no thanks.
Otter @ Nov 7th 2006 1:54PM
This is a waste of time, even with a new hdd youll only be able to store 13 half hour tv shows or about 3 movies and then youll have to get another hdd if you want to keep anything. With the cost of hdd's the way it is, this amounts to the most exensive movie format known to man.
dsub @ Nov 7th 2006 1:58PM
given the fact that sony was quick to criticize, but has made no mention of details on a service like this...odds are they were considering it, but now they have once again been forced to take the fast track to getting it done in order to compete with MS.
This is what competition does, it forces the other companies to react.
AzaMcWazza @ Nov 8th 2006 2:47AM
Good move by MS - bastards! ;) The Wii just won't be able to hand this until they get extra storage sorted out.
And I'll say it again, I don't think the HD war is between HDDVD and BluRay, it's between HDVDD/BlueRay and Downloads. We could (I suggest will) see downloads being the main form of HD content sourced movies and TV over any of the physical formats.
Spore @ Nov 7th 2006 1:58PM
All this would go away if MS allowed me to plug a cheap FW drive into the 360. Plenty fast for the datarate compressed 720p content needs.
Spore @ Nov 7th 2006 2:00PM
oops... i mean a cheap USB drive
SickNic @ Nov 7th 2006 2:04PM
I recently bought an Adaptec AVC-1400 GameBridge USB 2.0 Adapter which lets you record yourself playing on a gamesystem, including the xbox360. I'd imagine it would work with your downloaded movies/TV shows, but it probably wouldn't record hi-def...
Chris @ Nov 7th 2006 2:06PM
anime.
offer anime to fanboys, and they will make a ton of money
m3mnoch @ Nov 7th 2006 2:07PM
heh. chappy -- you sure aren't.
http://m3mnoch.wordpress.com/2006/11/06/the-lame-xbl-video-announcement/
m3mnoch.
blah @ Nov 7th 2006 2:09PM
otter:
yeah that would be a downside except that you dont need to keep it on your HD. Delete them after you are done, re-download to watch again later. 2 minute delay for HD to start playing or instant for SD isnt bad at all.
VampireHunter Z @ Nov 7th 2006 2:19PM
Hopefully they can live up to those download speeds. If I delete it and re-download I guess 2 minutes isn't that bad. MSFT is invading the living room but I'm not sure they have come up with the ULTIMATE entertainment solution. A Media Center PC is close but I still have a few gripes about it like having my PC on at all times.
Austin @ Nov 7th 2006 2:27PM
If you can play movies from a thumb drive or seperate drive, why couldn't you same them to it?
I think many people missed that once purchased you can redownload at any time. So you dont need a larger hdd. Just plan ahead or play in standard def.
Mike @ Nov 7th 2006 2:44PM
I'd be happier with it if they let me store the downloads on my PC and stream them from there.
Andrea @ Nov 7th 2006 3:04PM
Has anyone thought about integration with the upcoming Live Anywhere platform on your mobile phone? Imagine browsing the video content on your phone, select a movie and initiate the download to your xbox while on the road... I think it has great potential.
Erick @ Nov 8th 2006 12:33AM
For missed shows, I can see using this...maybe, but I like PS3's web-browser...if fully supported codecs and such, you can probably watch a missed show on the network's webpage for free. (You can now, but it is on the PC...) To be able to use the PS3 browser you should be able to load up the network webpages and catch all sorts of video for free...I'm not as concerned with HD level content for a missed show...so, that'd work for me.
Austin @ Nov 7th 2006 3:12PM
I like that Andrea, add direct tv functionality and you realy might have something.
Hoffer @ Nov 7th 2006 3:33PM
I think this will look much better when Vista comes around. Vista will support Live Anywhere and I'd bet will have some type of Marketplace. They've already announced the Zune Marketplace for audio. Apple has iTunes that has video downloads, so I'm sure MS is interested in this too. Once you can download HD videos to your PC, you'll then be able to stream that content to your 360.
For this reason, a larger hdd might not be as necessary on the 360. I've got a couple hundred gigabytes of hdd in my PC. More than enough space for any video download service. After the fall update, I got the video streaming to work with WMP11. It works great!!
Otter @ Nov 7th 2006 3:58PM
It's all well and good to say that you can just download it again if you want to see it again, but in New Zealand where I live, we are charged for data usage. It will cost us a freaking fortune to download every time we want to watch something, in fact probably even more than buying a new hdd for every 13 shows we want to keep.
If they allowed data transfer to a flash drive i would be a very happy person, specially for like the game trailers and demo's as well, even if i had to partition a hdd on my pc a certain way so they didn't cry about DRM or some such crap i would do it just so i could have some real storage space.
What about an external USB HDD? If the 360 formats it the right way then it doesn't even have to be PC compatible as far as im concerned, I could at least install a 400gb hdd and store all the stuff i want to keep.
Mr. Khan @ Nov 7th 2006 4:17PM
@ DeezNuts420
My sentiments exactly, its so fun to watch Sony and MS play this "me too!" game back and forth, a replay of the SNES-Genesis rivalry.
That's why if the PS3 isn't a complete failure, you know there "will" be HD-DVD games for the 360
But these HD movies with those little HDDs? Come on, Microsoft, give your userbase somethin' with a little leg room...
dood... @ Nov 7th 2006 4:35PM
It would be great if you could stream content from your xbox to your zune while you were on the throne. Priorities, man, priorities.
Pete C @ Nov 7th 2006 5:42PM
These movies aren't going to take permanent residence on your HDD because they are all rentals. So, you don't really need that much extra space. The 20 GB should be fine for downloading one movie at a time, then it expires, then you get another one.
The whole announcement is pretty cool, but Comcast is going to have streaming HD movies in abundance next year, so this feature isn't a big deal for those that have Comcast.
Chiefmcbeef @ Nov 7th 2006 6:19PM
Where the hell was Peter Moore making the announcement from? With all the noise, it sounds like he just parked up on the street with an Xbox and a display to start announcing in the street or a bar where no one cares lol
Chris @ Nov 7th 2006 8:44PM
Why isn't this annoucement getting more press? This is a big deal! I am personally excited about downloading shows and movies over the internet. This is what all of the tech magazines and websites have been talking about for the last 5 years. No DVDs, just content downloaded into a box sitting in your living room.
JCM @ Nov 7th 2006 8:46PM
"Henson told us that the files would indeed be stored locally on the 360's optional hard drive unit; there would not be an option to stream videos from your Windows computer (after all, there are already ways to do that)."
You guys are such MS bitches. It's OK because there's "already ways"? So how do you rent and display HD movies? What happened to Media Center? Why is it ok when MS disappoints, but not okay when Sony does?
I really wish there were a decent gaming journalism site, that didn't favor one console over the others.
The ZeroCorpse @ Nov 7th 2006 9:03PM
@ Chappy
Yes. That's the point. Some of us don't want to pay $60 to Comcast every month to watch two or three weekly shows on cable. This way, we pay FAR less than a cable bill, and get it in better quality (HD cable is crap because of the network limitations and the compression they use) and don't have to watch commercials or pay for a DVR or a Tivo subscription. Bonus: Unlike Tivo, this won't erase my shows after a short period of time.
I swore I'd never give Comcast another dime, and I've been debating it ever since because- dammit- they have a monopoly on cable service in my area. So far, I'm doing OK with iTunes and over-the-air HD broadcasts, but being able to get my TV shows in HD would put the 360 over iTunes.
Nobody's forcing you to give up paying $90 for your digital cable + HD DVR lease from Comcast. I'd just rather only pay ala carte for what I want to watch, not a huge fee for stuff I'll never have the time or desire to view.
The ZeroCorpse @ Nov 7th 2006 9:11PM
@ JCM
Well... Maybe you should just take your ball and go home!
That'll show Joystiq and all us "MS bitches" what's what!
slacker @ Nov 7th 2006 9:17PM
it would be cool... if the 360 werent running out of gas.
my only lasted 5-6 months.
JCM @ Nov 7th 2006 11:20PM
@The ZeroCorpse
So how do you rent and display HD movies? What happened to Media Center? Why is it ok when MS disappoints, but not okay when Sony does?
Same questions. Want to actually try to answer them, or just complain about me?
n8dogg @ Nov 7th 2006 9:55PM
So the PS3 gets flak for their supposed non-commitment to gaming, and then Microsoft gets praise for something just as profane?
I mean, this announcement is interesting and all, but I thought Microsoft was s'pposed to be "all hippin' and a-hoppin'" about HARDCORE GAMING(!!). Not TV.
So what's up intarweb?
ljbad4life @ Nov 7th 2006 11:14PM
Does anyone know what studios are on board? I would like to see more than one studio do... so I won't be left with watching disney movies like on itunes...
I am personally very happy that microsoft is giving the consumer a choice. I don't think sony does... if you ant hd movies you have two venues to obtain such content
S.A. @ Nov 8th 2006 4:34AM
Why no 1080i love? We got out tv about 4 or 5 years ago and it only supports 1080i.
baby sea tuna @ Nov 8th 2006 10:17AM
This is cool and all but somebody at Microsoft is on fucking drugs if they think I'm gonna pay 300+ M$ Spacebucks for CSI: Duluth or 40 year old episode of Star Trek.
Rose Baker @ Nov 20th 2006 9:38AM
Is it possible to stream the content to your pc? That would be cool. Makes burning them into dvd's easier. At least we can get a hard copy of our downloads. No need to keep it in store. Sooner or later you're gonna have to delete some to add more.