Wii en la casa de Joystiq [update 14]

A Wii touched town in Center City, Philadelphia earlier this morning. We'll spare you the silly unboxing ritual and instead provide some immediate reactions to the console that Nintendo hopes will fly off the shelves and into homes this holiday season.
Click "continue" below for our thoughts on the fresh-out-of-the-box Wii experience.
Update 1: My roommate (not a gamer, except through exposure to me) saw the box and said, "What is that?" Upon being told that it was Nintendo's new game console, he said, "Nintendo's got a new system?" This is going to be fun. It's clear that he's skeptical and will delivery plenty of blunt feedback.]
Update 2: Roommate again (pictured here), lets loose a torrent of feedback on the console as I hurriedly unpack it. These are direct quotes, recorded here so that we can compare his first impressions to his impressions after he's had a chance to play the game. I deliberately avoid giving him any feedback whatsoever on what he says. I'm not here to argue or influence him, but to capture his first impressions.

- "What do you think of the name," I ask. "I think it's stupid," he replies. "Is it 'we' or 'why'?"
- He takes a look at the unopened box, "I don't know what this thing is. You can't tell from the box. The box is all faggy. It's white and baby blue. It looks like a chick's toy."
- A few minutes later, he's holding the controller, and holding forth: "If I were walking through Target and saw this [controller], I'd think it's a hospital bed controller. The controller looks stupid." [He doesn't know that it's capable of motion-sensing. He knows absolutely nothing about the system.]
- Surveying the packaging: "They're trying to be like Apple."
- Again on the controller: "How am I supposed to f---ing play video games with something like this? I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I've been exposed to the PlayStation and Xbox controls. This is completely different. It's unlikely I'm going to invest the time to relearn this thing. This just feels stupid. It feels like I'm holding my dick in my hand. I just feel stupid holding this thing. Why do I care if I have free motion on this thing. [Again, he's not yet aware that the controls are motion sensing.] There's a wire hanging in my lap. The Microsoft one is all wireless and stuff. This looks and feels like cheap plastic. It's very light and flimsy. [Note, the batteries have not been placed in the Wiimote yet.] Everything feels cheap on this thing. This thing really looks like a hospital bed contoller. It's even got the white wire like in the hospitals. It even looks like a hospital controller because it's got a little speaker. When you're done with your urine sample you can call in a nurse. This is a totally retarded design. It's very uncomfortable. I'm used to a controller being a one-piece thing. Having them separate makes me feel like it'd be hard to control. It's got a light cheap feel to it."
- Looking at the console, he remarks, "The letters 'Wii' makes it look like some kind of WiFi machine. This thing looks a lot like one of those wireless router things for your computer."
- I hand him the Wii stand, he takes it: "Now this is really a piece of shit right here. It's clearly a really cheap piece of plastic. It's trying to look like metal, and it's clear it's plastic. Why even try to make it look like metal? Overall very cheap feel."
- After being informed that the controller is motion-sensing: "I'm very skeptical of how it will play. No matter what motion you do it looks like one motion. I'm very doubtful it'll pick up the nuances. For example, take tennis [he's a strong tennis player], I'm very doubtful this thing will pick up the flick of a wrist, the spin, the power, the touch of a racket. I think it'll just start making up crap and filling in the blanks, like those arcade boxing games where no matter what you do it's the same punch over and over. It won't come close to the motion that you actually have to do."
- His final verdict, before he's played a game: "Is it possible to short Nintendo's stock?"
These are some harsh opinions from a natural born skeptic. We'll see if he changes his tune once he's played some games.
Update 3: We've got a problem. You see, we've got a fancy HD projector here (Panasonic PTAE 700U). The sensor bar needs to sit under the screen, but the projector sits approximately 145 inches from the projector. The sensor bar has a wire that's only 138 inches long, so we've had to string the sensor bar cable directly across the living room floor in order to get it to the Wii, which sits near the projector. This is not a tenable, long-term setup. This is not a projector-friendly console.
Update 4: Responding to update 3, a reader asks, "Why not put the console near the surface that the projector projects on so that you won\'t have to stretch the wire so far, rather than putting the console near the projector itself." The cable that routes video from the console to the projector is even shorter than the sensor bar cable. The console must be located next to the projector in order to send its video signal to the projector.
Update 5: After hooking the console up to the projector, "we get signal!" Now it's time to customize the console. We're asked to enter a console nickname, and in this task the Wii shows immediate superiority to all other consoles: we can simply point at letters to enter them! It's a huge step forward from the awkward text entry methods used in the PSP and Xbox 360 consoles, but it's still like typing with a mouse. A keyboard still works best. Mercifully, the setup process takes only a couple of minutes.

Update 6: Roommate and his girlfriend (she's pictured here) have begun to play Wii Sports (tennis). Before roommate showed up, it was just his girlfriend, and she's been having a blast with tennis. He's about the poison the well, however.
Update 7: They're split. She's loving tennis, he's hating it.
- He says, "See, this is just how I thought it would be. This motion is so unrealistic."
- She says, "I like it."
- He says, "Just because you're moving your hand doesn't mean you're accurately simulating the game. Ping Pong [Rockstar's Xbox 360 version] is better."
- She says, "I actually enjoy this more. For the longest time I couldn't figure out how to move around in Ping Pong."
- He says, "Instead of having a nation full of obese children, we'll have a nation full of obese children with dexterity."
- She says, "Whatever! It's actually quite a workout. I'm getting sweaty. I feel like i really have to go thorugh the whole motion."
- He says, "Oh really? Watch this." He flicks his wrist a tiny bit, and smashes a ball to the opposite court.
- She says, "Oh, I guess I should tone my movement down. I'm having fun, but my arm is sore."
Update 8: Roommate's girlfriend does have one criticism of Wii Sports. She says it's very cartoony. "It's ok, it's a little childish. The characters are childish looking." When pressed to expand on these comments, she says, "There's this cloud above their heads when they lose in tennis. But in Ping Pong, the players are so realistic. They like cry [when they miss] and go 'yeah!' when they score a point. You get into a lot more into it because they're real. In this one they've got like plastic smiles permanently. This is like little Lego people. They could have made the graphics just like other graphics -- i don't know why they had to make it look like Lego people." Roommate has an answer to this, "it would have been too expensive to do that."
Update 9: They move on to golf.
- She says, "It's not as fun as the tennis. I can't figure out how you aim."
- A while later, she's figured out how to aim and she's already on hole 3 of the course. "This is ok. It's about as fun as miniature golf."
- He says, "This is a lot like the Duck Hunt thing."
- She says, "Yeah, I liked Duck Hunt, it was hilarious!"
- He says, "It was a hook to bring people in, but nobody used it. It was very gimmicky."
Update 10: Roommate's girlfriend has moved on. Zelda made her motion sick, but she did manage to find Link's horse (first quest). I was actually impressed that she was able to get that far with minimal direction. Now for a change of pace. One clear issue with the sensor bar is that one must point the Wiimote at the bar itself, not at the screen. That results in misalignment between where the Wiimote points and where the console says you're pointing it.

These photos make this differential clear. In each of these photos, you'll see a blue dot that indicates the Wiimote "cursor" on the screen. Note the location of that dot versus the smaller red dot below it. That red dot was made by a laser pointer we affixed to the Wii. To point at the very bottom of the screen, you've actually got to point the Wiimote below the visible screen. We'll probably get used to this annoyance, but it's certainly sub-optimal.

This issue also indicates that you'll want to locate your couch directly in front of your screen. My couches sit at an angle to the screen, throwing off the aim of the Wiimote.
Update 11: Responding to two particularly malicious memes running through the comments, below.
- Some readers are suggesting that the quotes from my roommate and his girlfriend are made up. They're direct quotes. This is no transcript of the entire session (I've edited out the grunts and fragments), but he has certainly said 100% of what was reported in this blog. We don't fabricate quotes here.
- Some readers have questioned whether my roommate was really a complete neophyte to this console when they read this quote: "See, this is just how I thought it would be. This motion is so unrealistic." Please recall that as I was unboxing the system, I handed him the controller and explained the motion-sensing properties of it. He had this to say: "I'm very skeptical of how it will play. No matter what motion you do it looks like one motion. I'm very doubtful it'll pick up the nuances. For example, take tennis [he's a strong tennis player], I'm very doubtful this thing will pick up the flick of a wrist, the spin, the power, the touch of a racket. I think it'll just start making up crap and filling in the blanks, like those arcade boxing games where no matter what you do it's the same punch over and over. It won't come close to the motion that you actually have to do." My roommate had no prior exposure to anything having to do with the Nintendo Wii.
Update 12: Added the missing screenshots showing the aiming differential. This will be the last upate. We'll return to the console after dinner. We gotta get some cheesesteaks up in here.
Update 13: Whoa -- roommie is now playing Excite Truck. He's digging the controls for it: "Dare I say that this is more intuitive than the Xbox 360 control for racing games." I ask whether he'd rather use the Wiimote or a steering wheel. He responds, without hesitation: "steering wheel." Still, he's clearly very much into Excite Truck.
Update 14: The folks over at GayGamer.net have picked up on the improper use of "gay" and "faggy" in the quotes above. We've linked to their post because it's good to raise awareness of the fact that neither term is acceptable as a replacement for "crappy" or "lame," despite the ubiquity of such usage within the group of core gamers. While we wish such language would never be used, it's not our place to cleanse quotes. This is how (too) many in America speak. The New York Times has published the word "faggot" in 133 articles, has used the n-word in 935 articles, and has even used the less common "faggy" in five articles. It's not just the NYT: many other reputable publications also publish these hateful words when they're quoting someone in an article. Writers don't take glee in repeating these things, but most of us do take pride in being careful with our handling of quotes.











Reader Comments (Page 5 of 5)
Neouni @ Nov 11th 2006 5:58AM
this view on the Wii is barely valid as he didn't even read the manual to see how to properly setup the system (In other words the controller)
and yes i agree on the fact if you have a projector and a special setup, you need to get extra cables
Nintendo doesn't need to supply 30 feet cables because someone might have a projector
Zelda comes out for GCN & Wii
(the worlds are mirrors of each other)
that's because link wears the sword in his left hand on GCN (original) and in it's right hand on Wii
Wii sports has terrible motion sensing capabilities,
only bowling, boxing & golf are the only ones with good sensing
Nice XBOX360 fact:
they are randomly banning people with refurbished XBOX360 while trying to find how to detect modded consoles (GOW might be related)
Ignatius @ Nov 11th 2006 6:43AM
Dude, your roommate is a total asshole.
Yashar @ Nov 11th 2006 9:07AM
I AM a hard-core gamer, know about Wii and am fully exposed to that machine and I agree with all of Roommates comments, useless cheap machine with unrealistic sensor (Wait until all of you try it). Excite Truck is the best thing.
RUSKULL @ Nov 11th 2006 10:00AM
Sorry, but just had to say:
"200!"
ali emamdjomeh @ Nov 11th 2006 12:32PM
how is it that someone who lives with a big joystiq writer has never heard of the wii? i say this entire article is a lie, unless we get a video of the roommate dissing the wii and all that, i cannot believe this.
Fedboy @ Nov 11th 2006 2:03PM
Sorry to break it to you but your roommate sounds like a dick.
D @ Nov 12th 2006 5:52PM
Just because the author of this article could hide behind the fact that is was his "roommate" that had innappropriate comments, and yet still posted them to share, means he sees these comments as valid and appropriate as well.
What is for sure.. the author's socially irresponsible comments show that he - as well as joystiq - lacks a sense of professional integrity.
snicks @ Nov 11th 2006 5:28PM
you might want to check out what gaygamer.net has to say about this post.
http://gaygamer.net/index.php?id=1885
raindog @ Nov 11th 2006 6:53PM
Copying and pasting my post on gaygamer.net:
Beyond the questionable premise of this article (someone who has been living with an alleged games journalist being entirely unaware of the Wii), this is a lot more disturbing than some kid on a forum going “teh wii is teh ghey lolz”.
“Gay” and “faggy” mean two different things. One is sometimes pejorative and sometimes neutral, and isn’t even necessarily a reference to someone’s sexual orientation; the other is always pejorative and I would go so far as to call it hate speech.
Joystiq would probably have been shut down already if the roommate had said, “Ha ha, this looks like something a nigger would play. Holding this controller makes me feel like a spear chucker.” But it’s still okay to pick on the faggots, I guess.
The “major Wii revelation” incident a few months ago, that ended with the firing of Robert Summa, removed a lot of Joystiq’s credibility as “gamer journalists” in my book. This removes a lot of their credibility as “human beings”.
Doubtless there are people whose response to this would be, “Eh, lighten up, faggot.” (I only got through the first 50 comments, so I’m only guessing.) I think their existence will demonstrate my point aptly.
JImbles @ Nov 13th 2006 9:24AM
Your roommate does sound like a major tool.
I am getting the impression that *his* first impressions are never honest. It's way safer to hate everything before you give it a chance. His rhetoric (faggy etc.) is a hint toward this. Seems less like a natural skeptic, and more like someone who is desperate to be cool.
some person @ Nov 11th 2006 9:55PM
to update 7: tell your roomie that that tactic was talked about WAY before you did, so don't make it sound bad, BTW, what happened to modifying the sensitivity of the Wiimote?
Namssorg @ Nov 12th 2006 12:03AM
You know what Joystiq? You're CONSTANTLY portraying yourselves as legitimate, professional journalists, but then you do things like this article. It was a great concept, but maybe you should have thought about your readers, or tried using another person to get their first impressions, I got sick of your roommates attitude and didn't want to read past the third update. Instead of directly quoting this guy, why don't you use your journalistic brain and write something original based on his experiences.
Rose @ Nov 12th 2006 11:53AM
As a female gamer I find it unacceptable that your roommate correlated "faggy" packaging with "female" packaging. Women and homosexuals are not interchangeable. For one thing, homosexuals have the good taste to avoid baby blue and everyone knows female packaging is pink. For another, their funsacks are found in completely different regions of the body.
[/idiocy] Now you do the same!
Jesus @ Nov 13th 2006 7:48AM
Holy shit, your roommate is a stupid arse. I knew about the Gamecube sucessor for at least 3 years before now, and I was very naive back then.
So his girlfriend trounced his ass in Wii sports, and so he has another bashing fit toward the Wii. Just goes to show, that not everyone that goes to college deserves to be there.
Jesus @ Nov 13th 2006 8:19AM
What wrong with holding your dick in your hand? Some of the best times in one's life can be had whilst holding one's rod.
JOrdan @ Nov 13th 2006 4:39PM
OK the Zelda game looks cool but i have to give props to Sony for their ps3. But for the Xbox 360 fanboys get over your self.
1.PS3(Close Match with Wii)
2.Wii
3.Xbox360(it flat out sucks)
Jack @ Nov 13th 2006 5:10PM
Gee, I was going to talk about the new Wii, but everybody here seems to wrapped up in Vlad's roomate to care. Guess I need to find some other gamers to talk with.
Kristynn @ Nov 14th 2006 2:42PM
"The Wiimote is more like a mouse. We're not sliding our mice the exact length of our monitors, but we seem to but doing just fine."
Thank you. Christ, the stuff people complain about before even understanding what's going on baffles me.
Also, I think it's quite obvious the majority, if not all, of his 'roommates' comments were fabricated or embellished upon. No one talks like that. "I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I've been exposed to the PlayStation and Xbox controls. This is completely different. It's unlikely I'm going to invest the time to relearn this thing." Give me a break. You could have at least gave him something positive to say. Did you have to make him the most hostile person on earth? Most people would play around with something new to them before completely bashing it, don't you think? So unbelievable.
If you hate the Wii, Vlad, just say so. No need to create a cast of characters to say it for you.
hemp @ Dec 5th 2006 12:33PM
Only a fool would connect a Wii to a projector.
Bradley @ Nov 16th 2006 8:52PM
i have the answer 2 your sensor bar cord problem(Update 3)
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-IR-Bar-Extension-Cable/dp/B000K1QHIS/ref=e_deav_acc_1_2/002-1000622-8255247
Reg @ Nov 22nd 2006 12:05AM
Center City Philly you say? I live in Center City too, how about a friendly Joystiq.com user-group meet-up at one of the local pubs? You bring the Wii and I'll bring, well, myself and maybe others.
¡Tu casa es mi Casa!