so... does that mean you can hook up a regular computer hard drive to it or does it have to be a ps2 hard drive.

@schuyler
Any regular computer hard drive should work :)
Probably has a certain thingy like IDE or SATA although im unsure of which

it is ANY 2.5" SATA hard drive. Laptop HD's are 2.5" and PC HD's are 3.5"

#1. The hard drive is standards compliant, any laptop (as far as i know) should work just fine.

well, think of this possibility...

1 500GB hd, external sata enclosure, and sata/power cables out the side of the ps3 into the enclosure. it should work fine, and give you a HUGE increase in space.

PG. 3

Serial ATA not Parallel
2.5"
Most HDDs should work, although not guaranteed.

hmmm, I wonder how those pricey solid state disks would effect performance? can anyone say "super fast load times"???? would be pretty sweet

Sounds great - add another $100-200 for your larger hard drive. Heh.

What type of HDD comes with FF11 for PS2? Will it (HDD) work with the PS3?

Well better a 100 dollars for a bigger Hard Drive rather than 100 dollars for a 20gb hdd.

Nice one Sony - running Linux and the ability to upgrade using standard hard drives - tweakers are stoked right now, too bad they kill down the homebrew on the PSP so fast, maybe it'll be different on the PS3.

Still wondering how Microsoft is gonna handle this for the 360.

killr0y: "Funny article on Kotaku about how there were nothing but Chinese people at the PS3 launch."



They were Japanese.

I should send Screen Shots of my 400GB in my 360

@13

Nope, they were Chinese you should read the whole article.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/top/foreigners-and-fights-ps3-jpn-launchs-dark-side-214130.php

'Fraid you're out of luck on a "200GB Monster" hard drive, as 2.5" drives currently top out at around 160GB. At that, a 5400RPM model will cost you another $200+, a 7200RPM model (which is what you'd really want) would cost you $300+.

It's too bad they didn't go with a 3.5" drive size, now *that* would have been cool.

So when is Sony just going to get it over with and merge PS3 with Vaio? ;)

Okay, if you're going to state it accepts 200GB HDs, you should at least try it before making that claim.

Anyone with a pre-release PS3, if you're willing to replace your hard drive, please detail the experience.

\i put up my experience of waiting in line at the launch in Japan

you can watch it here:

http://www.friedchickenarcade.com/2006/11/11/excluse-sony-playstation-3-japanese-launch-coverage-hands-on-and-review/
http://syndicated.livejournal.com/friedchknarcade/2659.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGD9MJM4Pfg

Lex, you sure you didn't write that, looks too amature to be the work of a real article writer :P

I don't think the article writer knows the difference between japanese and chinese anyway and has probs never been to either of the countries. Word of advice: The writer should go get culturised before making up rather foolish statistics.

So... what you're saying is it's retarded to buy the 60GB model since you're just going to throw the HD away anyway?

Of course, since the PS3 can make use of USB Mass Storage devices (right?), why not just hang a USB 2.0 external hard drive off it and use that instead?

Nick,
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=19646&table=game_ps04&main=ps

Not 200GB, but a 120GB drive. The only thing I want to know is there support for 7200RPM drives? They have slightly increased power requirements than the 5400RPM 2.5" drives.

7200:
http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_momentus7200.pdf
5400:
http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_momentus5400.pdf

Watch Impress did an article about upgrading PS3 HDDs and specs. They said that going from 5400 to 7200 RPM drives gained little preformance boost, while going from a 8MB cache to 16MB proved a large boost in speed. Cache is more important.

Also: 3.5" drives do technically work in the PS3, they just don't fit in the drive bay. Just like how a DVD drive won't fit in a floppy drive slot on your PC tower. The cables will still connect, and it will work fine, the HDD would just be hanging out the side.

I was thinking about picking up the 20GB one instead, using the extra $100 for a new HDD since I will probably end up upgrading the HDD anyways in the long run, but then I remembered wifi and the ability to play anything on the PS3 remotely through PSP, and I want that. 60 GB model for me. I'll probably end up tossing an external 250 GB 3.5" drive somewhere nearby for DVD rips so I can play them through USB via wifi.

"2.5" drives currently top out at around 160GB. At that, a 5400RPM model will cost you another $200+, a 7200RPM model (which is what you'd really want) would cost you $300+."

Toshiba makes a 2.5" 200GB 4200RPM SATA hard drive, currently $260 on NewEgg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822149059)

The largest 5400RPM drives are 160GB and costs $165-$180, while the largest 7200RPM drives are 100GB and cost $150-170. 7200RPM is probably overkill for the kind of use it'll get in a game console, so capacity counts for more.

Funny article on Kotaku about how there were nothing but Chinese people at the PS3 launch.. nobody bought games and the machines are going straight on to eBay.. Perhaps they'll upgrade the hard drives first?

For some undog reason, these pages remind of my users manual for my Dell Dimension 8300 PC. Would make sense since the PS3 is starting to resemble a PC

The manual is annoyingly vague about the issue of formatting the disc...it says reformatting is required before use but doesn't specify if the PS3 will do the reformat automatically. I'd like to buy a 100-120GB drive to replace the 20GB one on the PS3 I have reserved, but I don't want to be screwed if I'm unable to format it.

ps3 will automatically format the new hard drive for you
http://ruliweb2.dreamwiz.com/ruliboard/read.htm?num=19646&table=game_ps04&main=ps

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fruliweb2.dreamwiz.com%2Fruliboard%2Fread.htm%3Fnum%3D19646%26table%3Dgame_ps04%26main%3Dps&langpair=ko%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Several are saying they must have the wireless but don't want to throw away the 60GB drive... Can't you just use a wifi bridge on the ethernet port?? Or are the advanced PSP options only available on the $599/60G/Wifi version??

My choice is to get the 20GB PS3. First, upgrade to the 100GB 2.5" drive (about $100). Then get an 802.11n wifi bridge to get the best wireless performance.

does any know what the RPM is on the hard drive?

It is 5400 rpm, both the 20gb and 60gb.

wondering if there is a place to go to download
the manual on ps 3... thanks

can i buy a 20 gb ps3 and add a external harddrive thru the usb

I have an Ethernet Bridge on my 20GB for wireless, you can also plug a small USB wireless adapter into one of the USB ports. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833314011

You can also plug in a card reader. So why waste money on the 60GB PS3?

i BOUGHT THE PLAYSTATION 3 20 GBS. IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO MAKE IT WIRELESS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF ADAPTER I NEED TO BUY. THANK YOU

If the PS3 has a standard SATA connection inside the machine there is a good possibility it would be possible to connect a 3.5 inch SATA Hard drive, you would have to have an external power supply though that might get you past the 160 gig limit of a 2.5 inch.

I done it with an Amiga 1200 ages ago i used a 44 pin to 40 pin conversion adaptor i got from maplin it might be possible to do the same if the PS3 has an ide connection unfortunately i don`t have a PS3 to try it with.