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Posted: Nov 12th 2006 10:25PM hotpuck6 said

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"From a hardware standpoint, a Wii is an overclocked GameCube. You've got the same chips and a 50% higher clock speed on GPU and CPU. The PS3 and 360 on the other hand are entirely different chipsets (tri-core 3.2GHz PPC, the Cell) than their previous consoles."

Granted, even though it is suped up, it doesn't just make it a gamecube.
to throw in an automotive analogy here; it's like saying that a VW Golf and GTI are the same car, just one has a bigger engine and turbo.
In a sense you're right, but thats what MAKES it a GTI.
the slightly souped up hardware and specialized controls are what makes it a Wii. if it was just a Souped up gamecube as many have claimed, it would just be a "Gamecube II".
not to meantion wii has a whole slew of other features that puts it millenia beyond nintendo's old way of thinking, which only included online/online multiplayer as an after thought. That was the main problem with gamecube, it was trying to play in the graphics race, when it was clearly not even on the same track.

also even though 360 has 3 cores and a huge graphics boost over the original, besides wireless controllers, marketplace and a better implemented dashboard, it doesn't improved half as much as the jump from gamecube to wii.

Posted: Nov 12th 2006 11:14PM (Unverified) said

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When he says this game is a GameCube game that is EXACTLY what he means. The game was written FOR the GameCube and later Wii controls were tacked on and maybe a little bit of upgrades in some other areas (wide screen view, etc).

This game was NOT written for the Wii from start to finish. Sure the Wii might just be an over clocked GameCube with an upgraded vide card, but that doesn't mean this game shows off everything the hardware can handle. It's literally a GameCube game.

As for the palette... Take a close look at Gears of War. It's a beautiful and I love it, but it's all freaking grey. It still looks nice, but it does get old looking at it after a while.

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 1:15AM (Unverified) said

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This is totally bogus. You cannot argue that Gears of War should be made for a non-existant console, versus Zelda coming out on a new console built for the last generation console.

If Gears of War came out for the Xbox 360 and Xbox simultaneously, and was built for the Xbox, then maybe you would have a reasonable argument. Unfortunately, that's not even close to the case.

Zelda, which very well may be a good game and I'm not even arguing that, cannot compete with the other next-gen consoles on anything except content. The budget, medium, whatever you want to compare it to does make a difference. It's fair to compare the two and say, "Firefly DOES have better effects than Star Wars," as long as you realize the difference in age. Comparing any 360 or PS3 game to Zelda is even more interesting since you can say still say "X DOES look much better than every Wii game" because they do. Yes, the Wii console is "aiming for gameplay," but whose fault is that? 100% Nintendo's.

If you can live with that, then that suits you, but don't go lying to everyone saying the game competes with 360 or PS3 games on anything other than a gameplay level, nor do you have any legitmate reason to argue that other games suffer similar flaws when they were clearly designed FOR the console they are played on.

To clear the last part up:

Zelda -> Gamecube
Gears of War -> Xbox 360
Halo, Halo 2 -> Xbox (but can be played on the 360)

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 1:24AM (Unverified) said

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What I don't understand is why people are complaining about the Wii's graphics so much. Sure, it might be an overclocked Gamecube, but is that so horrible? Did you ever play a game like Fable, Resident Evil 4, or God of War and complain about the graphics not immersing you into the experience? No, despite the fact that they weren't as good as what's possible on Xbox 360 or PS3. Same deal with the Wii. Are top of the line last gen graphics now fugly because of what's been shown on newer hardware?

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 2:00AM (Unverified) said

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my 360 died in 5 months of play. is that next gen?

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 7:01AM Pushtrak said

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I look at the Wii as a gamecube II in the sense that the SNES was NES II. The improvements yielded from the NES to the SNES were more than enough for me, and i'm sure the content i'll find on the Wii will suit me perfectly.

I have a 360 already, and graphics are not my only concern, so i'm not going to bother about, for instance, gears of war. (Thanks, Eurogamer)

I find it interesting how people who care so much about graphics treat those who aren't similarly motivated by saying, "of course graphics are important, look at games from the 1980s..." or some such rubbish. Of course graphics matter to an extent... I guess the way I think of it is in terms of a graph, as the graph goes across, it reaches a point of acceptable. This point is different for each of us.

That is stating the obvious, I know, and my point in stating the obvious is because i've seen so many people not seem to get it that I felt it needed being pointed out.

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 8:27AM MartyCota said

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PD0 and Kameo were actually N64 games ported over to 360, as well as Conker.

(PD0 and Kameo started dev. back on N64, and were meant as GC Launch titles)

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 1:15PM (Unverified) said

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Good to hear nintendo is fixing thier consoles

Posted: Nov 13th 2006 10:42PM Pandaman said

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My only complaint is that a real website with both an audience and ad revenu is posting frivilous updates. These updates do nothing to reflect the actual experience of the game, unless someone's decision as to whether or not to play Zelda balanced on whether or not they could read signs.

Perhaps this is just an incredibly poor method in expressing the opinion "lesser graphics deter from expreience", but the fact is that anyone interested in this game will have had seen pictures of it since 2003. I think a much better anology than "pushing A to read signs/leaves are brown" are in order for this opinion to relevent to anyone.

Furthermore, Im pretty sure if the Wii was as simple of an upgrade from the Cube as you all say it was, Nintendo sure did waste a ton of money having IBM develop the Hollywood chip for them. Man, they should have just overclocked their gamecube chips and saved all that time!

Posted: Nov 14th 2006 7:56PM (Unverified) said

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:D Props for the Firefly/Serenity mention, though the movie was named Serenity (Firefly was the TV series).

Posted: Nov 17th 2006 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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i know zelda TP was ported to the wii from the gamecube. but, you can't ignore the different control scheme. and, it's still the best looking zelda ever. and, the twillight world has lots of vibrant and blooming colors!

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