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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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480p is not high definition
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:35PM (Unverified) said

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Once again, Perrin proves to be a completely worthless piece of C R A P regarding information.
No big deal, it's not like it's her JOB or anything..
Oh, wait..

Reggie has to be hittin' it, otherwise that idiot would have been out a long time ago.

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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:36PM (Unverified) said

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hahaha @ #1, Eric

I was coming in here to say "I wonder how long it'll be before someone points out how it's not Hi-def"

Eric, you truly are a nerd.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:38PM (Unverified) said

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Only bad thing is...unless they send it to you the day before you can't get it on launch. There is no mail on Sunday...unless I am missing something here.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:38PM (Unverified) said

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ps, I mean that in the nicest way. nothing wrong with being nerdy.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:42PM vidguy said

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"Wii component cables will not be available in retail stores until December 5."

My local Best Buy has shelf space reserved for the component cables, right next to the remote and nunchuk accessories. It appears that they may be stocking it early, like, tommorow, according to one store rep.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:42PM (Unverified) said

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Umm, did anyone actually find them on the website? Also, are GameCube compnent video cables compatible with the Wii?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:43PM Lorben said

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"Also, are GameCube compnent video cables compatible with the Wii?"

No, the Wii uses a new kind of plug. the cables you've been able to use on the SNES, N64 and Gamecube won't work on the Wii.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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Uh, at no point during this article does it say that 480p IS high definition, merely that the "HD Premium" component cables will be available at some point.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:45PM (Unverified) said

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They started taking phone orders on these last night, and I ordered mine online early this morning. Now they're being reported as being sold out. And the dick heads who point out that 480P is not high def need to see the difference between 480I and 480P; it's a much larger gap than say 480P and 720P or 720p and 1080I.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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you can UPS 2 day them and they'll get there before launch. Also #6, this is the first version of a nintendo console that won't use the standard composite a/v cables that were used on every console since the snes.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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Why announce this on Wednesday before launch? How about last Wednesday, so maybe some of us could actually buy the things and have them shipped in on time?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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Already shipping. Got the cheaper method, though. Composite cables will do for now..
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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you have to go to store.nintendo.com/componentvideocables it is not accessible through the main web page on the Store's site.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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...haha, 'MadCatz' and 'premium' in the same sentence. Thanks for the laugh.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:49PM (Unverified) said

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Where have you seen reports of being sold out Brad?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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This is nuts..

Wii + Component Cable = $293
XBOX 360 Core (with component cables) = $299

Anyone else see a problem here?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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"Why announce this on Wednesday before launch? How about last Wednesday, so maybe some of us could actually buy the things and have them shipped in on time?"

Who knows! What a fucking brainteaser.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:51PM (Unverified) said

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http://gonintendo.com/?p=8623

read the comments from the other guys who ordered them this afternoon
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:53PM (Unverified) said

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"Anyone else see a problem here?"

No extended warranty tacked on the 360's price?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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@16 >

No one buys the core system. :P
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:59PM (Unverified) said

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"Wii component cables will not be available in retail stores until December 5."

Umm... when/where did this info come from? Source please.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:58PM (Unverified) said

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#16

The core doesn't come with COMPONENT cables. It comes with COMPOSITE cables. BIG difference.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:57PM (Unverified) said

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#16 - $293 gets you a Wii with component cables, a wireless controller and a game. $299 gets you a 360 with COMPOSITE cables, a wired controller, and no game.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:58PM (Unverified) said

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This isn't about 480p, its really about the best picture quality. I don't know about you guys, but S-Video/Composite sure looks ugly to me after getting used to Component on my Cube and 360. Maybe I'm just too picky (my TV before last HAD to have S-Video or I wouldn't buy it), but I expect the best quality connection I can get.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:59PM yoagner said

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to #8 & #14

umm...to those of you who never used component cables on the GC, you probably don't realize that they had a different plug-in on the back than the composite cables. now, i'm not saying that the GC component cables ARE wii-compatible, but if they aren't, it's definitely not because the wii doesn't have an SNES video-out
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:59PM (Unverified) said

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@17

Sorry, but the Core comes with Composite AV Cable, not Component HD AV Cable.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 2:59PM (Unverified) said

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>, you don't need the component cables for wii?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:10PM (Unverified) said

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mr #16: The 360 core doesn't come with component cables. (nor wifi, or any game packed in for that matter). Get your facts straight.

Anyhow, for those ordering (like myself), get ground shipping. It's way cheaper and is just as fast. It cost me a total of $45.53 Canadian (gst included).
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:00PM (Unverified) said

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Technically 480p is high definition. So is 720p and 1080i. 480i is NTSC.

"Look it up"
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:00PM (Unverified) said

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That Skeptical Gaming is actually a pretty good blog. Ace link, Joystiq.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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@ 19

Yes, the post does say "high-definition Wii."
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:03PM Pete C said

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Um, yes it did:

"If you want them by launch day, that's an extra $13 in shipping, bringing the grand total to $43 for high-definition Wii from day one."

Sounds like he said Wii is high-definition to me.

480p is technically labeled ED: Enhanced Definition, back when they were selling TVs that were "progressive scan". To say there isn't a big jump from 480p to HD is f-ing stupid. If you can't see a big difference between the Xbox and the Xbox 360, you need to get your eyes checked.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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480p is ENHANCED definition TV (EDTV). Look THAT up.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:05PM rsmith4321 said

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Well there goes an extra $38.80 I just paid for the Wii. The Xbox 360 was $399, but it came with HD cables!!! This Wii is costing me way more than I thought it was going too, but then again with Zelda and Metriod I don't really have a choice. I sure better have these cables by Monday.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:05PM Pete C said

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#29, you are wrong. 480p is ED, not HD. "Look it up"
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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OK .. my bad.. but:

360 Core (w/ composite) >>>>> Wii + Component cables

.. for 7 bucks more, or the price of a pint of import beer
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:08PM (Unverified) said

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480p is EDTV look it up... here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTV
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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"360 Core (w/ composite) >>>>> Wii + Component cables"

Your point. Where's it gone?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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>, so? it's $7 more. Do you honestly think that is going to stop anyone that wants Wii from getting it? I don't understand what your point is. If someone is paying $250 for Wii, it is because they want it. I know I am, and I do. Probably not as much as you want ps3, but still, I want it.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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"If you can't see a big difference between the Xbox and the Xbox 360, you need to get your eyes checked."

did you forget that the original XBox supports high definition, and has various titles in 720p? 'cause in that case, no you can't see a big difference, in regards to resolution.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:13PM (Unverified) said

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@32 You can't say look at the jump between xbox and xbo360 because it's 2 different consoles. Take you 360 and put it on 480P, then change it to 720P; it's a big jump, but the jump from 480I to 480P is twice, if not 3 times larger in size.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:14PM Dracula Jones said

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Son of a... on the phone with Nintendo now to find out about the order I just placed. God damn November 25th is when they're shipping backorders.

Get it together, Nintendo! This is ridiculous! Maybe now they'll understand the demand for HD... too late!
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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@43 what does your oder say when you check it online?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:25PM (Unverified) said

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Just ordered mine! I didn't pre-order a Wii so I'm not very worried about when the cables arrive. I doubt I'll be hooking one up before December 1.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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I just called Nintendo myself and the recording said that the cables would be in the store between early and mid December! What the hell's going on with Nintendo? This is unacceptable and is total BS. I agree with what another poster said; their new "graphics are meaningless" attitude is really getting old. I'm surprised the system even support composite video when they could have just hooked up an RF cable to the back of the system. They probably could have saved even more pennies by making the system black and white or, hell, even monochrome like some damn LCD watch.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:21PM Dracula Jones said

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@44. Backordered. Just got off the phone. The rep said "no promises" but they're trying to reallocate units from another warehouse to fulfill these orders and should (should!) be shipped before the 19th even if it says backordered. Ordering past this point, though, and the chances would be slimmer and slimmer of getting one, I imagine.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:23PM (Unverified) said

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If I hook up the regular wii VGA cables to my 16:9 widescreen, will the image be 16:9 widescreen, or just 4:3?
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:24PM (Unverified) said

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Bradford, I don't buy that dude.

480i to 480p has an increase of 19200 pixels.

480p to 720p has an increase of 902400 pixels.

Go back and look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDTV and see the 'Common Resolution' diagram... 480i to 480p has no increase in size where 480p to 720p increases more than double.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2006 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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Max Fischer:

Was that supposed to be an insult?
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