PlayStation 3 Network live, Terms of Service loooooong!
by James Ransom-Wiley 
on Nov 16th 2006 12:25PM
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Sony activated PlayStation 3's online network in North America this morning (it's been live in Japan since last week), in anticipation of tomorrow's launch. We'll let you know how it fares once we get through these Terms of Service...
[Thanks CheapyD!]
Reader Comments (28)
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:31PM The Last Metroid said
He should actually read it. It might say something like "Upon this agreement, you agree to give us ownership or your life".
:P j/k
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:P j/k
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:31PM Giantenemycrab said
Who knows what's in there! You could be signing away your right to an attorney, for when they torture you. Which you also signed up for..
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:32PM Keithustus said
Any news on how it compares to XBL or that Fire-something program?
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:33PM Giantenemycrab said
When will sony do anything right? Come on sony..
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:36PM (Unverified) said
Someone should go and read through it and make a bullet point list for the rest of us who don't want to do what I suggest you do =D
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:41PM (Unverified) said
I wonder how that thing looks on a standard definition TV. Is it even readable?
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:41PM (Unverified) said
Sony is such a corrupt company that those TOS could be anything. Don't forget that this is the company that put spyware on their CDs.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:33PM UnnDunn said
It's not surprising how long it is, given that it's three documents in one, Terms of Service (the terms upon which Sony agrees to provide service to you), the User Agreement (Rules you must abide by while using the service) and Privacy Policy (how information about you is collected, stored and used.)
Each one of those is going to be fairly long by itself.
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Each one of those is going to be fairly long by itself.
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:23PM (Unverified) said
FWIW, the Xbox Live Eula:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/legal/legal-tou.htm
Code of Conduct:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct.htm
Xbox.com TOS:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/xboxComTOU.htm
Pages and pages full of legalese there too.
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/legal/legal-tou.htm
Code of Conduct:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/codeofconduct.htm
Xbox.com TOS:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/xboxComTOU.htm
Pages and pages full of legalese there too.
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:15PM FredFredrickson said
You're probably agreeing to some pretty nasty stuff in there, about sending data to their network about your pay habits and preferences for marketing purposes, etc.
On a side note, where's >? I know he's somewhere reading this right now, building up to a boiling rage about people having qualms with turning over their rights to Sony with a huge TOS agreement. Show yourself!
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On a side note, where's >? I know he's somewhere reading this right now, building up to a boiling rage about people having qualms with turning over their rights to Sony with a huge TOS agreement. Show yourself!
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:52PM (Unverified) said
Can you scroll through the text by tilting the sixaxis? That'd make it cooler.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 12:53PM (Unverified) said
I don't understand companies. "People keep just hitting accept without reading our terms of service. I know! We'll make them scroll all the way down before they can hit accept! Surely they'll just read the terms of service now!"
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:00PM (Unverified) said
Can somebody please tell me where he got his background music? I would like to download it.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:03PM Lord Minogue said
Couldn't they just say:
"by accepting this agreement you forefit all legal rights regarding Sony products and accept that we can change anything we want, whenever we want"
I Accept - I Decline
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"by accepting this agreement you forefit all legal rights regarding Sony products and accept that we can change anything we want, whenever we want"
I Accept - I Decline
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:07PM (Unverified) said
when will we post something of more interest than toa for sony? Hey, I got it, lets talk about the violent crimes that should be on their hands for only releasing so few systems. Or we can talk about something of real interest like what all the fuss over blew ray disc and HD DVD, when we all know that digital media is where everything is heading. I saw the ps3 @ walmart and it is huge, and they talk about the size of the 360. The ps3 is nothing more than a hybrid 360 and wii put together and they could not even get that right. Now I and sure to sell my psp too and bootleg all sony movies, they get no money from me...... WOOOOOO WOOOOOOO
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 1:25PM (Unverified) said
@Oro: Well, I don’t know if the companies really want the end user to read the full TOS – he can’t complain about something he doesn’t read.
So I think this forced scrolling is just some legal stuff so users can’t just accept the TOS (even accidentally) and at least have to quick-read them ;)
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So I think this forced scrolling is just some legal stuff so users can’t just accept the TOS (even accidentally) and at least have to quick-read them ;)
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 3:04PM FrozenDarkness said
I feel tricked, that was not long at all. Sony haters really sicken me.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2006 5:51PM (Unverified) said
@#8: No, that wasn't spyware, it was a V-I-R-U-S. Actually a rootkit, but it pwns your system like one.
@#10: Zelda? This is a PS3 post!
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@#10: Zelda? This is a PS3 post!
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 3:27PM (Unverified) said
I once heard a smarter man than I mention that the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill or Rights is not longer than 7 pages combined.
(note: could be slightly more or less, but way less than today's contracts...)
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(note: could be slightly more or less, but way less than today's contracts...)
Posted: Nov 16th 2006 6:14PM (Unverified) said
I am not a Sony Fanboy but Lengthy lisence agreements are normal, i have seen many games on PC at the installation process that are probably just as long. Its normal.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2006 11:28PM (Unverified) said
You can hit the right directional button to move to the Accept button, past the TOS.
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