It would seem that the gamecube controller ($20) is a much better deal then a full set of Wii controller s($80). Good to know that that Wii is much less epensive to fully outfit then I thought.

wii controllers = free. comes with the system. classic controller = 20. cube controller = 15-30, depending on what kind you get (used, wavebird, new, etc.)

How are you suppose to play the ocarina without c buttons?

@3, the yellow "analogue" stick on the GC acts as a slightly fiddly version of the C-buttons, simply push it in the direction of the C-button you require. not sure about the classic controller or wiimote :) hth.

Wii VC has been hacked, now you can play with your roms.
By using GC ActionReplay with SDload.


Try save your money from rip off VC.

Dont forget; no rumble with N64 with either controller.

I don't understand why Gamecube games can't be played with the Classic Controller, there are more than enough buttons. I never owned a Gamecube but thought about buying the Zelda games that were released for it now that I have a Wii. Rather than purchase a Wavebird (only wireless for me now) I was hoping I could use the Classic Controller, but I guess not.

Saved me 20 bucks.. I thought the classic controller could play Gamecube games.

Thanks for pointing that out Optimus Prime, but if some people are willing to sit in line for a week, to buy a console that doesn't support rumble in any game, I think us Wiifans will be fine :)

Here's what I play my (non-n64) VC games with:
http://www.nintendospin.com/images/975/ss01.jpg

You all know you want one :P

Mike- could be that, when the console goes into GC mode, all the Wii features disable. So it won't recognize the Wii controller and hence the Classic controller.

iceatcs, don't be a douchebag and let Nintendo know we want more VC games you cheapskate.

LOL fish.. actually i had a Wii preorder which i sold to someone else. I was getting it only for Zelda, but, the reviews blew it for me.. its the same game as OoT with more monkeys. The graphics arent even that much better; its more of a first gen. GC game and its still using MIDI tracks coming into 2007.

And, im not interested in mini/party-games or any other Nintendo franchise.

Optimus Prime, I never hinted that you had any interest in getting a Wii. I mean, afterall, if Sony, the most revered maker of game consoles can exclude rumble in every title, surely Nintendo excluding it in some downloadable games can't be so bad? Shouldn't rumble's lack of importance be evident after Sony decided to forego it?

And with regards to your feelings about Zelda, I'm sorry you can't get over the graphics and enjoy this wonderful game. It's just a shame that a game can't be any good without at least 1080 horizontal rows of pixels displayed simultaneously. Has my laughter and joy of Zelda and Wii Sports with friends been a farce? I'm begining to believe it has.

>_>

you can't use the Gamecube controller for Wii games...

You know what's pretty cool, Optimus Prime? Everything Sony makes.

Actually, you can corn_fest. I believe SSBB's director (who's Japanese name I'd botch if I didn't look it up) said "don't throw those gamecube controlers away just yet" or something to that effect.

Also, I THINK, don't quote me, but there's already at least 1 Wii game that can use the GC controler.

I forgot to add; i have a GC, so, most likely be picking ZTP up for that.. for me, its not worth $250 dollars and the GC controllers are just fine.

This game should have been out 2 years ago; its amazing what you can do if you keep delaying and delaying a game. But, nintendo knows their fans will always be there, and so they can get away with shit like this.

As for the lack of rumble; i will take 1080p over rumble + 480p any day, thanks.

I'd much rather have a delayed good game, than a rushed mediocre game. But, that's just me. Besides, wasn't Zelda supposed to be out last year? Not 2 years ago?

Regardless, I agree with your on the 1080p over 480p with rumble, but why's it gotta be one or the other? I think that's the point most people are trying to make.

But if I wasn't excited for the Wii controls of Zelda as much as I am, I'd definitely go your route.. hold out until something more worthwhile comes along, like Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, or Smash Brothers, assuming you're interested in those.

GC controller works for EVERYTHING. there are NO games out that don't support the GC controller - sorry to bust your bubble.

@fish, call me a n00b if you must, and you probably must, but what's the controller you linked to there? it looks like a highly sexualised piece of black plastic and i should like to get my fingers on its sleek curves.

I'll take 1200 with keyboard + mouse over 1080p with lame gamepad controls all day long. Finally I'll do so just about as cheaply, as well.

Juan,

It's called the "Hori Digital Controler". It's (obviously :) ) shaped like an SNES controler, but plugs into the Gamecube controler ports. I bought it for my Gameboy Player, and it works great on some GCN games as well (Viewtiful Joe, and Soul Calibur). HIGHLY recommended. Of course, they never released it stateside, so you'll have to ebay it, which is how I got it.

ChrisL,
And I'll take playing with friends, in person, and sitting on my couch over sitting less than 2 feet away from the screen by myself, in a dark room, with headphones on.

What happened to the standard fanbot line about "no one will ever produce stuff that relies on non-bundled controllers?"

@Fish

I have one, too. Indigo, though. Lik-Sang was all out, and eBay only had one black, but it was much more expensive. I gotta say, it is an amazing controller. Couple it with a GCN to USB adapter and emulators get that much better. Too bad the Trio Linker I got from Lik-Sang is dying.

(By the way, my friends suck so bad at TimeSplitters 2 that when I play, I use that controller as a handicap. [Yay, fully-customizable controls.] I still crush them, though.)

Why no Genesis love?

So you need all three controllers to fully use the VC. Good to know. And yet another reason why I'm not buying a wii.

I have the Hori controller too, it's awesome. That GCN to USB adapter sounds great, any help on finding it would be appreciated!

I found it, sadly it's not Mac compatible :(

This is just.... A MESS!! Are you serious, you have to fart around figuring out which controller works with what VC system/Game Cube/Wii?

MESSY! Especially the VC!

I thought it was bad enough having a stupid wire between the Wiimote and chuck. and dangly addon Classic controller.

MESS MESS MESS!!

Pelican makes a similar controller to the Hori one, and GameStop carries them for $7. Definitely worth picking up.

It's not a mess, just buy a damn Game Cube controller and you're all set for Virtual Console.
I can believe there's people not smart enough to figure that chart out.

GC Games do not work for all VC games. I bought a cheap third part GC controller and downloaded F-zero. It would not let me play- asked me to plug in the classic controller. Was I doing something wrong or is it because its a third-party GC controller?

So Nintendo delays a game for a year so they can include the functionality of their new system into Zelda, which is awesome imo, and they are being jerks to their fan base. Meanwhile, Sony releases a system that is very cool, and very powerful, but also very out of the price range of a large portion of its fanbase, which then proceeds to scare away some developers, but they are the most fan friendly company ever? And you can't tell me a similar story isn't out there for Microsoft. Backwards compatability anyone? Every game company is going to make decisions that disenfranchises some of its fanbase, so stop QQing about it and just buy the system you want to.

"26. So you need all three controllers to fully use the VC. Good to know. And yet another reason why I'm not buying a wii.

Posted at 2:12AM on Nov 23rd 2006 by Teh Destroyer"

You need the wiimote and a classic OR gamecube controller to play all VC games.

I dont know if anyone has noticed, but there have been quite a few pro sonys running around here lately.

Must be because Resistance: Fall of Man is only entertaining for so long before you run out of launch titles to occupy your time.

The Nintendo fans, on the other hand, for the most part are all sore and fueled on energy drinks and dont have time for joystiq right now. I know I am. One week of play... doing Wii Sports fitness once a day, plus constant boxing, Ive never felt so exercised from video games ever.

Ive even cut my sleep down to four hours a night to get more wii in. Trauma Center is wayyyy better on the wii (at least for me) than it was on the DS. On the DS, I constantly accidentally stylus slipped and hurt my patient. On the wii, its a rare occurance when my scapel slips into a patients heart (killing him) instead of making a proper incision elsehwere.

Oh yeah. Ive got most of the wii vc games... bompberman 93 having FIVE players at once makes it so worth it.

So basically go buy a used wavebird for cheap.

"So basically go buy a used wavebird for cheap."

Ex-ACT-ly.

Need all three controllers, my ass.

I've heard nothing on this yet, BUT...... will my Mario Party 7 mic still work with the GC memory slot on the wii???

About the chart, shouldn't it say Partial for the GCN and VC controllers on Wii? After all, those controllers don't play all Wii games.

Also, GCN controllers can be used for all VC games AS LONG AS you don't include some Turbografx-16 and Genesis games.