Killzone returns: "biggest multimedia project in Dutch history"
Dutch newspaper de Volksrant brings word of PlayStation 3's reclusive shooter Killzone, in an article titled, "A video game more expensive than the most expensive film." Guerrilla Games has allegedly hired some 120 developers to complete the project, which made its dubious debut at E3 2005 and promptly disappeared from the public eye.According to de Volksrant, the next-gen Killzone sequel will cost more than Black Book (Zwartboek), Paul Verhoeven's World War II thriller and the most expensive film in Dutch history (totaling roughly $21 million). Killzone director Arjan Brussee would not quote a specific figure, but did confirm that the bill would exceed Black Book's budget; driven in part by large-scale localization, which will see Killzone translated into 20 different languages.
Brussee also hinted at the possibility of downloadable episodic content, telling de Volksrant, "The Killzone that is in stores is only the beginning." Indeed, the article suggests that additional "chapters" will be added after the game's initial release. *Sniff, sniff* Smell that? Halo-killer? Nah, couldn't be...
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Huey2k2 @ Nov 28th 2006 3:27PM
Nothing will ever "kill" Halo. Halo already has a large enough installed fanbase that anything with the name Halo on it... regardless of how good it is... will sell millions of copies.
Killzone has a large uphill battle to go through if it wants to even attempt to dethrone Halo.
Christian @ Nov 28th 2006 3:28PM
I look forward to a great game, if they really do a good job on it!
About the whole Halo-killer-concept: I still think people should separate games from each other and look at them as individual forms of art. . . I mean no one says, "Hmmm, that musical piece might be the next Mozart killer..."
We should look at games separately, even though that may not mean that we enjoy them all equally the same.
*Cheers* To pushing videogames farther than ever before!
flash @ Nov 28th 2006 3:28PM
Well it looks like this will be the PS3's Plastic of War..............OoOoOps I mean gears of war
DECEMBER @ Nov 28th 2006 3:29PM
Dear God.
Who here thinks that in 20 years, fansites will still be declaring every other big-budget shooter a "Halo Killer"?
Get some new damned material, people.
bubbastump @ Nov 28th 2006 3:32PM
This game probably won't outdo Halo2 yet alone Halo3. It's the multiplayer stupid!
flash @ Nov 28th 2006 3:36PM
I dont see why every one compairs a fps to Halo, halo was a generic shooter, with a generic story line, and horrible graphics. It only did well because that was the best game (and still is) that M$ had to offer. Every one overhyped it to feel better about blowing money on the xbox, when they could of had a good console in the ps2. Its looking the same this gen, with the 360 and Plastic of war.
@ Nov 28th 2006 3:45PM
1. Halo is only good if you think its good. A lot of people dont give a shit about Halo.
2. Trying to convince a Halo-fanbiy that a game is a Halo-killer is like trying to convince a Zelda-fanboy that such and such is a Zelda killer.. its not gonna happen.
Thats how the fanboy mind works. Convince yourself that some game is a godsend, then go out of your way (like this poster) to belittle and put down ANYTHING that might resemble said game.
3. The only people looking for a Halo-killer are Halo fanboys. Everyone else will play whatever is good. But, Halo fanboys NEED to convince themselves AND others that Halo is supreme.
Dave @ Nov 28th 2006 3:47PM
So really what he is saying is Guerrilla Games has just taking 21 million and flushed it down the drain.
Shagi @ Nov 28th 2006 3:48PM
7 posts and non nintendorks have mentioned the Wii yet. I think the Wii hype is starting to wear off.
PoloSleor @ Nov 28th 2006 3:52PM
I'd say let's wait and see!
A little correction, by the way: the newspaper is called "De Volkskrant". It only has one K in the article.. It literally means "The people's newspaper" for those wondering ;)
Miles H @ Nov 28th 2006 3:55PM
O what sorry, I was too busy actually playing my system.
GO WII!
L337 Lemming @ Nov 28th 2006 4:00PM
halo killer! ha ha ha ha
halo fanboy all the way, dont care, but this game will do about as well as herpies............or the first one
which was such a "halo killer" wsnt it.............
yay! Lemming FTW!
Omahagtp @ Nov 28th 2006 4:01PM
Wasn't the first Killzone supposed to be the Halo killer?
What happens when this one can't dethrone it?
Third times the charm?
Fourth?
And the Sony fanboys will take it just as seriously, ever single time.
Skwurl @ Nov 28th 2006 4:02PM
#7
Wow.
Your previous posts have pretty much contradicted every point you attempted to make.
Congratulations.
GJM @ Nov 28th 2006 4:10PM
When are they going to release this game? The installed PS3 base is going to have to be *at least* 20 times what it is now just for this game to break even. I have a feeling that's at least a year or two away.
Spore @ Nov 28th 2006 4:13PM
It would be nice if someone finally killed Halo. I'm sick of the phrase "Halo-killer." Shove it somewhere it'll never come back from.
Pulse @ Nov 28th 2006 4:18PM
I dont know why they keep calling it the Halo killer, like as if Halo is the greatest game on earth, the only thing Halo has going for it is its multiplayer, the campaign is so bland, basic and unoriginal, only the person with the brain power of a pea who has never read a book in his life would enjoy it.
Now doubt the multiplayer is supreme though, as much as I would like to see a good multiplayer, its not multiplayer I care about, I still think Time Splitters had a more enjoyable multiplayer then Halo, the only difference being the more compact levels and it wasn't online, but it didn't force you to select the same boring character in different colours, you could be a variety of things.
Go in the Rainbow Six direction Guerilla, 4 or more player online co-op, I don't want another stupid shoot to kill fps running about, kill, respawn, running about, kill, respawn, over and over.
And make the campaign addictive, Halo's gets tedious after a while of killing the same aliens who happen to speak perfect English, what a coincidence, lol.
ill trooper @ Nov 28th 2006 4:20PM
"13. Wasn't the first [XBOX] supposed to be the [PS2] killer?
What happens when this one can't dethrone it?
Third times the charm?
Fourth?
And the [MICROSOFT] fanboys will take it just as seriously, ever single time.
Posted at 4:01PM on Nov 28th 2006 by Omahagtp "
I guess what I'm trying to say is that a lot of things are possible - Halo took over, and will be taken over itself by something, at some point. We don't know yet, do we? I have to agree with ">" on this one. There are likely people out there that think Perfect Dark Zero is still a Halo 2 'killer.' People pick a perspective and won't budge until sales and sheer numbers of people playing and having fun convince them otherwise.
Freddy C. @ Nov 28th 2006 4:21PM
This game doesn't have to "kill" Halo; it's on two different systems. What this game DOES have to do is be as good as Halo is to the people who love Halo, myself included. This game has to be good enough to convince people to sped $500-$600 on a game system. Halo sold Xbox's, you can't deny that. For me, there isn't anything out on the PS3 (yet) that's motivating me to drop that much cash. Gears of War is a damn good game in my eyes, and I've been enjoying it: but it ain't Halo. I could give a damn about a Sony game "killing" Halo; just give me a game that I will enjoy just as much ...
earl g @ Nov 28th 2006 4:24PM
Since when did budget size equate to quality?
DirtDevil @ Nov 28th 2006 4:50PM
Yep, another title that Sony wants to be the Killer App for theh PS3, sucks cuz rumble is gone, I bet they would use the SIXAXIS feature though???
DirtDevil @ Nov 28th 2006 4:52PM
It does not need good graphics to make a great FPS shooter, Halo was great because of the gameplay mechanics and addictive online multiplayer in Halo 2. So to Flash, u might not play FPS games or you really dislike Halo or MS, u sucking right now to Sony's ass.
Regula Oblique @ Nov 28th 2006 4:56PM
Redsteel was the true halo killer... :)
right shagi?
Scott E @ Nov 28th 2006 4:57PM
I'm confused about "Plastic of War." I thought that game was one of the first to get the lighting perfect. I don't see anything plastic about it (now that March Madness game on the other hand...)
Also, Halo 2 for me was a Halo killer... It killed the feel of Halo 1 by removing the pistol and making every map a whore-fest (ghost-whore, banshee-whore, sniper-whore, rocket-whore, wraith-whore... you get the idea.)
kay @ Nov 28th 2006 5:05PM
for the idiots that continue to say halo is a generic shooter with a generic story and all that shit, listen closely: you were late to the party. period.
anyone with half a brain knows what made halo (the original) so much fun was the pacing of the story, the crisp and tight controls and the physics it displayed. never had a console RTS acheived what halo did. you are late to the party and didnt see the crazy things people could do with halo's engine. all the home made movies, the awesome maps with equally awesome multiplayer experience, the lan parties, etc. it was on the most powerful console system at the time and it showed. tell me ONE game on a console that has fostered such community with LAN parties and such? Its like saying Mario is no big deal because its a generic story (save a princess) and generic gameplay (platformer). For its time, Mario was amazing. For its time, Halo was amazing. It is immortalized as such.
So, hate it or love it, STFU with this "Halo isn't that great". If it wasn't it wouldn't still as relevant as it is. It is to Xbox Live and console gaming what Starcraft is to Internet gaming. Long lasting engaging play.
/gets off soapbox.
wako @ Nov 28th 2006 5:12PM
Halo is the only shooter game that got the shooting right on the console. However sucks compared to the PC counterparts :P
Halo is marked as a generic shooter to me. But that might be because I been playing PC games and know what a good shooter is. :P
PC Gaming FTW!
ymmv @ Nov 28th 2006 5:12PM
For Dutch speaking folks, the link here's the link to the original Volkrant article: http://www.volkskrant.nl/technologie/article373643.ece/Een_computerspel_duurder_dan_duurste_film
Usedtabe @ Nov 28th 2006 5:17PM
I see the SDF is in full effect *flash*. The funny thing is, I have owned a PS2 since its first release, and it wasn't until I got an Xbox and gamecube that I realized how shitty of a system it was. ASk yourself this..... If the Xbox was so bad, how come Sony decided to copy adding a hard-drive that allowed for music and gamesaves onto it? How come they decided to add Online fucntionality after publicaly declaring it wasn't needed? Face it, considering the installed base of users, Halo and Halo2 juast about out-performed every game on the PS2. (Halo2 sold 7 million copies to 24-25 million possible users). The only reason most games on Ps2 come close to that number is due to the supposed 100 million possible users available
Fito @ Nov 28th 2006 5:19PM
Well, considering the game has no pedigree -Killzone was merely average- and Halo is one of the most critically acclaimed and financially successful gaming franchises of all time, I'd say it's pretty naive to call it a Halo killer.
Quando @ Nov 28th 2006 5:19PM
I think that Joystiq's comment section would be appropriately renamed "De Volksrant".
Or maybe "Rant de Volks", just to mix it up french-style.
Endejas @ Nov 28th 2006 5:24PM
Why'd you have to say "halo killer"? Now all I'm going to read is shit about how "halo is overhyped" over and over.
And to answer your question: No. Killzone will not kill Halo (2). The PS3's user base just isn't big enough, and then, some people wouldn't buy the game anyways. I think Halo 2 had an adoption rate of 1 for every 3 Xboxes sold.
Plus, the first Killzone sucked.
One more thing... Halo ownzU
Usedtabe @ Nov 28th 2006 5:32PM
Joystiq....you suck donkey balls. 30 fucking minutes and still no e-mail confirmation for my comment. Hell, it'll probably be 2 hours before this one goes thru. Why not try a log-in system? That would also help with banning trolls and some of the "stolen identity" cases on this site.
carlos @ Nov 28th 2006 5:32PM
hey evryone calm the fuck down well see if the next killzone will be good o and btw i have a 360 so dont call me a fanboy and plan on getting a ps3 very soon o and btw the is nothing but a toy GRAPHICS DO MATTER WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!!!!
carlos @ Nov 28th 2006 5:36PM
woops i meant to say the wii
Rare Hare @ Nov 28th 2006 5:52PM
I wish you people would just talk about the game, and not just latch onto the phrase "Halo-killer". Just shut up.
For me personally, the success or failure of Killzone for the PS3 will be what determines whether I purchase one anytime in the near future. And my definition of success used here is not monetary... I mean how good the game actually is when I get my hands on it.
Killzone just looks plain awesome, and if it plays as well as I'm hoping it will I'll be laying down 600 bucks shortly after its release.
ACE @ Nov 28th 2006 6:35PM
Halo 2 killer?
Halo 3 Killer?
Mass Efect?
Bioshock?
Alan Wake?
Shadowrun?
Crackdown?
Splinter Cell?
Too Human?
Prey?
Gears of War?
Lost planet?
seems like sonys got a lot of work to do if they are still working on an outdated old syestem...
PhillyRampage @ Nov 28th 2006 7:26PM
I like Halo and Im looking forward to more Halo. But if Killzone plays like the trailer it showed, I'll buy the game. No fanboyism here, just want cool games.
jaysins @ Nov 28th 2006 7:40PM
I'm very dubious about this game. We were all lied to about it in the first place regarding whether what was shown at E3 was actual in game footage or CGI in case anyone forgot. For that simple reason I will not think anything good about this game until I have played it or hear an overwhelmingly amount of good things about it. You can check out how they lied on youtube. On top of the lying I did not really enjoy the original killzone. And no this will not be a halo killer. This game, I think, will be closer to gears in style and gameplay, which for me is a good thing as I rather play gears. Not saying Halo is bad but after playing it for so long it has gotten old for me.
Keil Joy @ Nov 28th 2006 7:53PM
" Nothing will ever "kill" Halo. "
have you already forgotten all the press Gears has recently received for exceeding Halo as the most played XBox Live game? So it obviously can be done. Once in a while a game comes out that just redefines and raises the standard for great gameplay. Killzone will be that game. And with all the time, energy and manpower going into the production of Killzone I doubt that the aim here is to create some mediocre Halo competitor. No. The idea is to erase all memories of Halo from the minds of gamers everywhere. (diabolical laughter)Halo's days are numbered and there's nothing you fanboys can do about it. man, i can't wait to play againsts all the ex-360 gamers online when Killzone comes out. lol
Wii the People @ Nov 28th 2006 8:00PM
Sony never responded to my letter where I suggested changing the name of the game from "Killzone" to "KillHalo".
jojo29 @ Nov 28th 2006 8:04PM
"1. Halo is only good if you think its good. A lot of people dont give a shit about Halo.
2. Trying to convince a Halo-fanbiy that a game is a Halo-killer is like trying to convince a Zelda-fanboy that such and such is a Zelda killer.. its not gonna happen.
Thats how the fanboy mind works. Convince yourself that some game is a godsend, then go out of your way (like this poster) to belittle and put down ANYTHING that might resemble said game.
3. The only people looking for a Halo-killer are Halo fanboys. Everyone else will play whatever is good. But, Halo fanboys NEED to convince themselves AND others that Halo is supreme."
i totally agree with this statement.
Also i don't remember Sony/Gueriila Games saying themselves that Killzone is a "halo-killer".
Although i do like the the Killzone setting/story/characters/weapons MUCH MUCH more than the halo series, it just wasnt executed well. I belive the content is there (setting/story/characters/weapons ) i just believe it was not executed well at all, i.e a massive invasion yet there werent many 'massive' battles in the game. In all honesty i feel if Guerrilla games can fix these flaws:
Glitchy graphics
Poor Controls
include 'massive' and 'epic' feeling battles
online multiplayer
it can turn out to be a VERY GOOD GAME. Killzone: Liberation is a good example, its done very well, looks good graphically.
Andrew Fong @ Nov 28th 2006 9:26PM
Am I the only way who still remembers the phrase "Quake-killer"? Man I feel old.
Pete C @ Nov 28th 2006 9:49PM
How can anyone make fun of the story in Halo 1. It was plenty intriguing and kept you wanting to play until the end. The cinematics were perfect, and the gameplay at the time DESTROYED any other FPS done on any console to date. There is still not a single shooter on the PS2 that can even hold a candle to Halo, single player or multiplayer. Give some fucking respect. What is the deal with all the Halo hate all of a sudden? Halo 2 was a bit of a disappointment on the story front, and the battles were not as epic. Okay, I will give you that. Still, the gameplay was extremely tight, and the multiplayer is still the best for a pure FPS online.
That said, why the shit are people all excited about Killzone now? This company has proven nothing! So they are going to skip from Killzone 1, which was crap, to making the next Halo? A big budget and think-tank design is not what bags you a Halo. It needs to be a labor of love. These people are not leaders, they are followers. Bungie basically flipped the console FPS world upside down with Halo. It is now of legendary status...a game that will make "Top 10 videogames of all time" lists for the next 20 years because of what it did right at a time when nobody else could get it right on the console. People just want to Halo-bash now because they want to buck the status-quo. Give it a rest, please.
Chris @ Nov 28th 2006 9:50PM
nothing will kill halo? many games, including mario kart and pokemon sold more than halo.
Scott Krueger @ Nov 28th 2006 10:27PM
You cant "Kill" Halo. It was a great game.
I Just hope they take everything that was good in Killzone and take it to the next level and make the game almost as good as halo, or just as good as halo, or better would be just fine too.
Either way if they come close they will be shooting at the right target and I will be buying.
Flit @ Nov 28th 2006 10:48PM
So, is this sony's new strategy? Build such expensive games and consoles that they never make any money on anything they sell? Great strategy guys.
ChrisL @ Nov 28th 2006 11:20PM
"7. 1. Halo is only good if you think its good. A lot of people dont give a shit about Halo."
"26. Halo is the only shooter game that got the shooting right on the console. However sucks compared to the PC counterparts :P"
This pretty much sums up how I feel.
Negativecool @ Nov 29th 2006 12:25AM
I'm confused why people are hung up on the "halo killer" idea. If you have half a brain you will disregard it.
What I'm confused about is why they think over 20 million for a game is a huge amount of cheese...Wasn't the budget for FFVII 10 years ago something like 7 million?
And 120 developers is suppose to be a lot? Due to the complexity of the hardware and the added attention to detail in today's AAA titles, I would say 120 developers is just over what I would expect.
I only hate 2 things. People who are intolerant of other cultures....and the Dutch.
Pince @ Nov 29th 2006 1:26AM
@25
Most of your praise for Halo seems to stem from the fact that it was popular; hence that it had a huge following, made Halo LAN parties a staple of console gaming, etc.
When most people criticize Halo, they are simply attempting to say that it never deserved that much influence in the first place. You are right that Halo is somewhat of a benchmark for console FPSs, but did it have to be/ should it have been? If there had been other solid games for Xbox at the time, would Halo have had the same effect? Many games become overlooked because of the timing and situation of their release and many others are vaulted straight to the top for the same reasons. Halo has its merits, but I think a lot of its success was circumstantial.
Personally, I think it is a good game, and it definitely influenced console FPSs in a big way, but I don't think it was a GREAT game, and I think any other solid FPS that came to the Xbox at that time could have done something similar.
On another note: The original Killzone was hyped as a "Halo-killer" (whatever that means) and it was crappy. I think it was a really good looking game last generation, especially on PS2, but it was crap to play. I don't really expect anything better from this Killzone.
Gimbal @ Nov 29th 2006 8:43AM
What I absolutely loved about the first Killzone was the feel of the weapons. They had heft and they just felt like they would seriously hurt something. The reload animations were awesome too. The enemy design was cool. But the game seemed too ambitious to work well on the PS2. Some levels looked good, but other had horrible design, and even worse at times were the textures. Let's not even talk about the framerate.
I think if the same level of ambition is applied to this game on the PS3, it should turn out awesome...except for one thing that will absolutely drive me mad:
No rumble.
Without that tactile feedback rumble provides, all the effort that goes into the once visceral feeling of loading a high caliber slug shot into your weapon and squeezing the secondary trigger to feel the recoil of the round leaving the gun will ultimately fall flat.
*sigh*