"No one's above the law. If there's any criminal conduct that can be established, I'm not going to hesitate to treat them as any other defendant,"

So they should be shot to death in their own home?

That quote is directed towards the officers involved I think

Those cops probably played too much GTA...

I think Norm is too. If the guy who was shot to death was suspected of stealing a PS3 in his home, then one way to interpret the DA's statement is that the cop suspected of improper conduct should be shot to death in his own home as well.

@1

I think he was referencing the officer involved in the shooting, not the person who was shot.

Why did they have to shoot the dog?

it was suspected of wii crimes

Wow, used to go to UNC-W and lived in the on campus apartments where the original purchaser was mugged. Crazy stuff, poor dog.

Did he bust a cap in the 2 PS3's as well, then we coulda flamed him as a crazy Wii fanboy, LOL (no, i am not dissing the wii fanboys, i am one).

Oh awesome... Go to a suspects house and kill him and his dog... Great Coppin'.

The dog was most likely shot for menacing or attacking the cops.

This is really sad, both that someone stole a couple video game systems and that he lost his life over it.

The person was suspected of armed robbery, which elevates the situation; they had to be prepared for guns and such on the premises; ie. their guns were probably drawn when they entered the home.

In most places, some type of SWAT or elite police squad with proper training would have handled this (due to guns involved)... this isnt the job for rank and file cops.

My guess would be that the dog scared the cop; cop shot the dog; owner of dog freaked out and attacked cop; cop, still wigged out, shot owner. Bad stuff for everyone involved, but the cop probably doesn't need to be wearing a badge and carrying a gun.

He broke the law. Got owned. His fault.

No offense, but to those that are angry at the officers for shooting the suspect (and his dog) perhaps should get the entire story before passing judgement. After all, most of these guys are on the level and they are risking their lives to protect us every day. That does deserve a little respect.

If they were wrong, then the truth will be told (hopefully) and they will be punished if they were out of line.

He got PWNED by the L33t police of New Carolina. LOL don't mess with the cops. To bad the dog had to die.

This was a fanboy on fanboy violence.

"Got owned"....

N3k74r .... you need to stop playing video games and get out more, maybe make a couple of real friends and enjoy some human contact beyond your Counter-Strike and Halo buddies.

If they had just bought a 360 everything would be ok.

"He got PWNED by the L33t police of New Carolina."

NEW Carolina? Are you that fucking stupid?

For those wondering why the cop shot the dog - most people keep large dogs as a sort of makeshift survaliance system. If someone comes around, the dog barks.

A. To let the owner know there is a threat present.
B. To perhaps scare the threat into leaving.

In this case, it was probably both. But I don't think it should've been killed. Muzzled or tranquilized, yes. Killed, no.

Poor dog :-(

"He got PWNED by the L33t police of New Carolina."

LOL, people who don't know the states of their own country are obviously spending too much time playing video games and should be shot by police.

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

He is SUSPECTED of armed (with a blunt object) robbery and he is shot and killed in his own home where cops did not even provide a copy of the search warrant?

Damn, these are scary times we live in. The Cop probably heard one too many homicidal video game player fairy tales.

Police officer was obviously a Nintendo fanboy.

For cripes sakes, people. I can't believe that you guys are making light of this. And even if you had to make a stupid comment about the whole ordeal, why not the part where the customer was "struck ... with a six-inch blunt object."

Fact: A lot of people wanted to get a PS3 on launch day.

Fact: Justin Raines was assaulted and somebody lifted his gear that he purchased

Fact: Being shot sucks. A lot.

I'm not questioning the decision made by the officers; GL made a good point above. When it comes down to a potentially life-threatening situation, a lot of people are rightly concerned with preserving their own existance. It's really sad and stupid that things ended up like this, there's no doubts there. But when it comes down to it all, when somebody breaks the law, bad things happen. You get victims, perpetrators, and law enforcement involved. Not to mention the uncertainty, in cases like this one, where you still don't have any proof that this guy stole a console in the first place.

It sucks all the way around, and people who are laughing at this (read: Foetoid, N3k74r, tracked, and whomever else posts stupid crap after I submit this) really need to take a serious look at their lives, and get their priorities straight. This is not something funny.

There are a number of possibilities, so passing judgement on the officers involved, and the late suspect, without full information is not prudent.

If they were serving a warrant, there could be the very real possibility that the victim was, as they say, holding a PS3 controller in his hands. When he went to the door, he could have made a motion with said controller that could've been construed as hostile, and was shot for it. We don't know yet, details aren't available.

As for the dog, it may have attacked an officer.

No matter what it was, a tragedy. The poor puppy. :

I'm not american. When i wrote new carolina. I was looking at New Hanover and i saw North Carolina at the top. GOt them mixed up. So sue me.

Atleast i didn't get my ass capped.

"What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?"

Goes out the window if you attack a cop.


Which, giving the cop the benefit of the doubt, might have happened. Cops don't tend to shoot people unless they feel they have no choice. Shooting people isn't fun. And can very often lead to an out-of-work cop.

Maybe it was a misunderstanding. Maybe the kid did something dumb. Maybe the cops were creeps. But I'd jump on the first two being more likely than the latter.

The sad thing is, the guy (supposedly) stole TWO PS3s from someone else, likely an eBayer. When the cop encountered him, though, he was holding a Sixaxis. Does stealing a console from an eBayer in order to play it really a crime?

Well, technically, yeah. But it's the principle of the thing.

haha yeah i live in wilmington and like like 10 minutes from uncw..didnt even here about this on the news. gahdamn

I love how the perpetrator of the crime is being shown as such a great human being.

"He was the best kid, talented, gifted, determined," he said.

Hey, guys - here's the reality of the situation. You've got two guys that mugged and beat a kid for his PS3s. The police had already arrested one guy for this crime. You KNOW one of the questions asked of that guy had to be, do you know if your friend has any guns in his house.

The UNCW police also knew that his house was the site of many calls in the past, so they involved the local sherriff.

NOW - put yourself in the position of that deputy.

You're knocking at the door of the home of someone who has committed an armed robbery. (Hitting someone with a sap or blackjack CAN still kill them.) Said person probably has a large dog barking in the background now, and doesn't immediately answer the door, so you use a doorknocker. You see someone coming towards you with something black in his hand. You yell at him to drop the weapon - because in the split second which is all you have, that's what it looks like - and get on the floor. The guy that you KNOW has weapons and may be holding a gun raises his hand towards you.

That's when you as the cop are NOT going to take chances with your own life, and put two in the chest and one in the head, to quote Saints Row.

Now you've got big ass German Shepherd - note that it wasn't a little Poodle or Chihuahua that you can just kick, but a German Shepherd - charging at you. The rest of your magazine is going into the dog, because you're not going to get chewed up by the dog, either.

Total elapsed time, probably 4 - 5 seconds.

Did the kid steal the PS3 systems? Probably - and innocent until proven guilty is in a court of law. How about this one - don't break the law in the first place or bad things can happen to you. Does it suck that he got shot? Yep - but I don't feel sorry for the kid or the dog - I feel sorry for the cop. He's the one who had to make the decision in a split-second - and if he hesitated and it was the WRONG decision, then his wife is a widow and his kids no longer have a daddy. That happens way too many times.

I grew up in Wilmington, and the police there are a bunch of self-righteous thugs that call in 16 other officers all with guns out for a routine traffic stop.

@25 "It sucks all the way around, and people who are laughing at this (read: Foetoid, N3k74r, tracked, and whomever else posts stupid crap after I submit this) really need to take a serious look at their lives, and get their priorities straight. This is not something funny"

You need to shut you mouth when your talking to me (?). My comment was purely based on the notion that IF he had also shot the PS3's in question, we COULD flame him as a Nintendo Fanboy. Obviously that didnt happen. Unlike N3k74r and other posters here, my comment wasn't at all disrespectful. I personally know what it is like to lose a loved one who was wrongfully killed by police so i would like to kindly ask you to shut the fuck up and leave me out of your examples.

Were the PS3s OK?

This is serious news...and people have the audacity to make light of it. I'm ashamed to be a gamer when life and death is a joke. No one respawns or has more than one life to live. Live in your world, play in ours should be read: Live in your world, cause life ain't a videogame. Peace out

earl g

They also appear to be Sony fanboys...That deputy dealt justice as if ordered by Sony Yakuza. It went down like this...

Sony goon - "He appears to have robbed a Sony fan of his PS3 sir."

Ken Kutaragi- "He did WHAT?! I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD! I even want his F***ING DOG DEAD!

Sony goon - "It's being taken care of sir, we own the law enforcement in that area."

Ken Kutaragi - "Good!...I feel good, I think I'll promote myself."

Talented, gifted, and determined to rob people and steal from them. Yeah, a really great person... so sad for the dog.

"Why did they have to shoot the dog?"

"it was suspected of wii crimes"

Ok this was a very tragic event, and who knows if the cop was at fault, or just taking steps to safeguard himself.

However, those 2 lines had me cracking up. I am sorry if that makes me a bad person but damn:)

How is it that you guys keep on feeling sorry for the dog, but not the suspect? Is a person's life not important to you? Now, I understand that the officers "could" have tranquilized the dog and the man, but cops don't usually carry a tranquilizer gun with them. Also, imagine yourself in this situation:

You're entering a dark home which possibly belongs to a suspected shooter, who obviously has a gun, with your own gun in your hands. You see eyes in the dark that suddenly attack you or you hear some noise in the dark behind you. What's your first instinct? You get jumpy and defend yourself with the closest thing to you: your gun. Down goes the dog. Then, a split second after that, something else lunges at you. Keep in mind that this is all still in the dark. Again, you shoot to defend yourself. Down goes the man. See how you don't really have time to react with tranquilizers (if they even carry those) or a taser gun?

Now, I'm not saying that this is necessarily how it happened, or that I approve of the officer's actions, but try to think of it from a different perspective.

The comments are so fucking funny. Joystiq posts serious news,and ya'll laugh about it,and posts comments like "pwned in NEW CAROLINA".

Innocent 'till proven guilty,indeed.

You guys have no regard for human life whatsoever. First the ebayer guy in line who gets shot "deserved" it, and now the people who supposedly stole ps3's deserve death as well? Cops are here to protect not kill- especially not kill 18's who steal silly PS3's.

People care about the dog because they have the emotional depth of children. Children like dogs. They don't understand how adults have to make difficult choices about life and death and right and wrong. It's all sunshine and rainbows and puppy dogs. Save the puppy dogs!

There's always a tranquilizer gun with the right dosage for the size of dog that may or may not attack you. In fact, every cop caries several different kinds of tranquilizer guns all the time. Didn't you know? And you can always aim that gun perfectly to avoid injury to the dog and any people.

Anything to avoid having to grow up and face reality. Anything. No matter how many people are hurt or killed, they won't give-in to the real world with its real choices that don't always work out the way they'd like.

42. Being that I live in Wilmington and know many cops of the area (including my dad). Hardly any cop out here carries a tranquilizer gun. In fact, most carry a 9mm, a J&L ASP Baton or a Nightstick depending on the area and a shotgun in their vehicles trunk.

Norm,

Learn to think.

Regards,
stiill

#43

You weren't there,were you? Nobody here knows what the fuck happened,nuff' said.

Sorry,I saw something that "Wii the people" said,it's not Mike,my apologies.

I went to high school with these guys, shame that this happened. There had better be some good explanation, though I don't see one.

@42 Ben

The dog didn't steal anything and, like any dog, it was likely just pissed that there were guys barging into its home violently. People feel sorry for the dog because it got caught up in human affairs that it is in no way really related to. That blows. It is a hell of a lot easier to feel sorry for a dead dog than for for someone who committed armed robbery.

Anyways, I'm not trying to make a huge case for "the poor dog" really, I am just saying, lay off. Lay off of the people who wanna say "oh the poor dog" because, yeah, that sucks for the dog. The dog is pitiable.

And don't do that stupid hardass shit you are trying to pull off. You just end up sounding immature and bitter.

The way I see it is this, if the suspect was inocent then the cops made a tragic error, however if he was involved in the theft he got everything he deserved.

Its soft to say he was only stealing a couple of PS3's and that shouldnt get you shot. Im sorry but I dont feel bad at all for him, the world is a bad place made bad by people like him so it now has one less ass hole in the world. Ive had no money in the past no job and shit and i didnt need to rob people i just tried harder in my life and got a job.

The only real bad news is the dog had to die however the dog died with honour pretecting its master with its life he gets a medal in my book.

Foetoid wrote:

"You need to shut you mouth when your talking to me (?). My comment was purely based on the notion that IF he had also shot the PS3's in question, we COULD flame him as a Nintendo Fanboy. Obviously that didnt happen. Unlike N3k74r and other posters here, my comment wasn't at all disrespectful. I personally know what it is like to lose a loved one who was wrongfully killed by police so i would like to kindly ask you to shut the fuck up and leave me out of your examples."

My most sincere apologies if I seem to have struck a nerve with you, Foetoid. I was simply grouping all of the people who posted before I commented together that seemed to be viewing this whole event as comical. According to your own admission, you *were* in fact doing that as well.

Go back and re-read what I wrote. I'm not attacking you or them, or any of the dozen people that commented since then. I just fail to see how humor is an appropriate response in this situation. Thank you kindly for your comments, your suggestion, and your reaction.