Sony to further delay European PS3 release?

PS3 for the Loss!!!!

I used to think this was great for the Xbox, but lately I've run into a TON of assholes-who-happen-to-be-British on Rainbow Six Vegas and I'm just sick of it. I know it's not all of you, but wow. Rude, rude, rude. And then they call me a "filthy American" or something like that. Which I don't mind, despite being Canadian. It's when they won't shutup about it that's the problem. And when they angry launch after I ask them to wait. Or when they join my room and they lag like hell.

Sorry I just can't stand playing with foreigners. If that makes me a bad person then whatever. It's just not worth the bad-apples I seem to regularly come across.

Also, go Xbox! Boo PS3!

We are still on schedule to release the PS3 in March.....2008"

Weren't there developers out there saying that if the PS3 got delayed one more time they were going to completely pull their support for the system? If so, and these new delays are true, this could mean real big trouble for the PS3...

Whilst I do not plan to get a ps3 anyway this has got to be one of the most messed up launched for a console EVER. "PAL Terriatories" are simply not going to put up with a delay of that magnatude, March was pushing it as it is.

Sony are beyond retarded, and literally are shooting themselfs in the head and foot by negleting the whole of Europe.

I myself previoulsy owned a PS2 but due to the Xbox360 being better (in my opinion) I have now joined the Microsoft generation (and never looked back). (And a Wii too after chrimbo)

It really is stupid for companies to overlook Europe or giving it low priority (Wii sells out within mere hours, Lesser Xbox live service) to a place where we pay the most for thier products.

It's going to be a lesson Sony will have to learn the hard way, personally i dont know ANYONE of my friends that own a ps2 that are going to get a ps3, and to me that speaks volumes.

#1 it's not all of us, I can't stand them people either and thier in the same country.

I wonder what defense ">" will have for this one, or how he'll somehow turn it around to bash Microsoft or Nintendo?

The release will be November 2007 1 jear after the us/jpn launch, just like the ps2 why would it be different this time? Look at the shortages how can they possible release it in 4 months? I'm European too and on the electronics market we always come last and pay way more. But well I'll guess we have other advantages.

Remember, Sony was committed to a worldwide March 2006 launch as well...

@Tim
Dickheads are Dickheads no matter what country they are from.

I am British and all I ever seem to find are ignorant rude Americans. I don't right the whole country off because of it!

Xbox live is just a Cesspit.

"Sony's European boss calling the rumor "categorically not true." The CEO continued by saying "we're still on schedule to launch PS3 in March throughout the PAL territories and all speculation otherwise is without foundation.""

Yeah.. and the PS3 was absolutely going to launch in Spring 06 here. Yeah right.

Sony hasn't lied what, 4 times ever? I think the fact that the machine is called the PS3 and it has Blu Ray is the only thing truthful about the launch.

@Dero: Yes, but to be fair, North America and Japan do have two advantages:
First, they’re both using the Never The Same Col... err, NTSC system so the consoles can be techincally the same.
Second, there are ~100 million people in Japan and ~330 million people in North America speaking the same language (Japanese and English respectively), whereas we in Europe do have ~20 languages, of which at least 5 are essential to sell something in Europe (English, French, Spanish, German, Italian; sorry to all Portugueses, Poles, Swedes, etc. pp.). So Europe IS a difficult and expesive market for entertainment corporations.

We're too busy playing to care, maybe if the 360 was a better console you would be too.

Ehm, didn't Sony first aim for a november 2005 PS3 release? Wouldn't that make it a TWO YEAR delay??? Hmm... Someone in for a bet on the price it'll sell for? I wouldn't bet under €900; that wouldn't be realistic... ;)

#11, if you're too busy playing to care why are you posting?

hahaha this is funny, I remember not that long ago all those PS3 Fanboys saying they would of get the best launch because it was in march when everithing was ironed out, now it looks like you will be playing the PS3 in 2008 if your lucky

Was anyone else left confused by #11?

THEY BETTER FUCKING NOT OR I WILL NOT BUY I PS3. I WANT ONE BY MARCH NO LATER SONY.

Shit, we already have tons of PS3 for sale on eBay and Craigslist and I have seen them sitting on store shelves already (Target in Northern Virginia and a Best Buy in Pennsylvania).

Will they not be able to make 200K by March 2007. I think they are highly overestimating the demand for this thing, what with the Wii and the 360 on the scene and already released in PAL territories.

@1 Quote: "Sorry I just can't stand playing with foreigners."

Well fuck off then.

screw sony! screw the psCRAP! we dont want it, £425 is far more than the rest of the world are paying and it aint worth it! wii60 ftw! I hope the PSuck is a disaster for Sony and they die a horrible death, the 360 and the wii are both better consoles made by better companies!

rant over, basically I used to be a loyal Sony fan but with the PSbullshit theyve really screwed us over! i live in northern ireland and any game shop i ask in says the ps3 wont sell and that I should buy a 360! so I did and ive never been happier with my 16x disc drive for fast loading games and my rumbley controller, not to mention the ever improving multimedia functionality! its not perfect but itl get better with time and is already better than the PSfucked!

Sony can shove their 2x blushit drive where the sun dont shine and their lack of rumble motion sensing ripoff controllers up there too! they really are bastards!

anyways rant actually over! sorry I was so excited about the ps3 and they let me down! I was pessimistic about the 360 and was pleasantly surprised, and im getting a wii just to completely screw sony over!

byee lol!

:)

The ironic thing is that they blame it on tiny laser diodes(i can understand if it was the cell or RSX processor), they knew exactly what they needed, even a few years ago, so that's no excuse, unless that is that microsoft and nintendo have been buying them just to hurt sony.

we will know that when the next generation of microsoft mice comes out, if the light is blue, then they are to blame.

" £425 is far more than the rest of the world are paying and it aint worth it!"

Completely agree man, I bet customers in the USA would not be willing to pay close to a thousand dollars (equiv. to arouynd 500 quid) for a PS3, poo-ray or no poo-ray.

At this point - whatever. Seriously.

We don't need no PS3 here in Europe anyway.

If the PS3 gets pushed back to Septermber, they'll delay it further by at least a month just to get it closer to the Christmas season hype.
...assuming Europe follows the same basic strategies as the US and Japan follow for holiday related releases.

You heard it here first!

Sure, Neil. It’d be just the third or fourth delay, so I don’t trust Sony anymore. I’m sure you can understand this, don’t you?

AHAHAHA

when games companies say they are 'on schedule'. it really means that it will be late. Zelda was 'on schedule' for an april 06 release, Ha.

If they delay any longer, they might as well stay exclusive to Japan. Apparently, people want those ugly PS3's there.

It's hard to believe Sony's big-wigs trying to deny the rumors any more. Kutaragi was telling everyone that "we can launch at any time" and they kept insisting on a spring launch this year until the last minute. Everyone knew they weren't going to launch earlier this year, but they insisted

While September seems a bit ridiculous, I would believe 1-3 months more of a delay. It's Sony.

This actually seems very likely to me. I remember when I sent in a tip to joystiq a couple of years ago in February about the launch of the PSP being delayed until September in Europe, so I really wouldn't be surprised if Sony were to do this again. After all, apparantly us Europeans don't mind waiting longer for our games. ($"%@)

I honestly couldn't care less when they decide to release the PS3 anyway, since I have been enjoying my Xbox 360 for nearly A year now, and look forward to getting a Wii.

9 December 2005:

"Sony Corp. said on Thursday that despite rumors and speculation, it remained on track to release the PlayStation 3 (PS3) console in Spring 2006."

13 December 2006:

"We're still on schedule to launch PS3 in March(2007) throughout the PAL territories. All speculation otherwise is without foundation."

So let me get this straight. Anyone who thinks that Sony MIGHT not make their own launch dates is a hater, and not just a logical skeptic? Remember last spring when people were debating when exactly "spring" officialy ended, just to give Sony a hance to drop the PS3 in late May in Japan?

@25 Neil:

All Summa seemed to say was how dare we speculate on a delay when Sony ASSURES us there won't be one. Hot tip: make sure you wait up all night if Summa says he has a red hot, megaton announcement for you at 12:00am. It'll be totaly worth it, maybe a late-breaking exclusive on N-Gage homebrew.

@#1 Tim:

I have to say my good/bad experiences have pretty much split evenly across the globe. But send me a friend request (@ chimp o death)if you want. We Canadians need to stick together for world domination.

Sony is already making over 100,000 units a month. Why would someone think they somehow cannot make the Euro launch?

Sony could make about as many units in a month as MS sold 360s in November (511,000), MS biggest month ever, the month that the biggest game ever for 360 came out.

It is unlikely Sony will experience component shortages that will reduce production capacity further.

This is almost certainly just rumor.

As to Phil Harrison refusing to confirm the date at that time, for ONCE a Sony exec refused to comment on something he didn't have direct knowledge of. After weeks of people saying Sony should send out more consistent messages instead of having all their VPs say stuff that turns out to be wrong.

So what the heck? Sony is damned if they answer and damned if they don't answer.

I'll get him:
"Phil Harrison, have you stopped beating your wife?"

@ 32.

"Sony is already making over 100,000 units a month."

They are?

@32 Steve2:

"...for ONCE a Sony exec (Phill Harrison) refused to comment on something he didn't have direct knowledge of."

But he's (according to Wikipedia) "Executive Vice President of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe"! What do you think he does all day? How many more important things could have have that need his attention, besides the second largest market in console gaming?

For the record, here's exactly what Phill said:

"“Given that all of our previous statements about launching in Europe simultaneously with the US and Japan turned out not to be the case, I would not like to make any definitive statements on that (spring euro launch). It’s not my job to comment on hardware supply issues other than to say some very smart people are working very hard to catch up. In fact, the ramp up is already starting to happen in supply and output, just obviously too late for us to have launched in Europe at the same times as the US.”

Let's have a closer look:

1) "Given that all of our previous statements about launching in Europe simultaneously with the US and Japan turned out not to be the case, I would not like to make any definitive statements on that." Phill declines an opportunity to clearly confirm a guaranteed spring launch. Not early spring, not late spring, nothing. Congratulations, I guess, for not writing cheques you can't cash, but this is a clear case of backing off an iron-clad guarantee. Confidince in even a late May release would have been answered differently, I think.

2) "It’s not my job to comment on hardware supply issues..." One of Phill's jobs is to see that Sony supplies PS3s (hardware) to consumers. That's the whole point of the business. And if he means internal hardware supply like diodes and drives, consumer hardware is just the sum of its components. "I delivered a truly next-gen plastic shell for the PS3. It's not my fault that supply issue mkeant there was nothing inside it."

3) "...some very smart people are working very hard to catch up. In fact, the ramp up is already starting to happen in supply and output..." But wait! after telling us he can't 100% confirm a euro launch date because that would mean commenting on hardware supply issues (although central to launching a major console that wouldn't fall under his aegis), he goes on to COMMENT ABOUT HARDWARE SUPPLY ISSUES? What does it all mean? Is he trying to give us hints, Dan Brown-style, about the true launch date?

I could understand if some smart-assed blogger blindsided him with something like "is it true that the Cell Processor is performing terraflop operations at .00000001% less efficiency in retail release units than promised?", but if Phill wants to play his little semantics reindeer games, by all means let's all join in!

Are they as committed to a March 2007 release for Europe as they were a Spring 2006 release for Japan and North America?

Quote #21

we will know that when the next generation of microsoft mice comes out, if the light is blue, then they are to blame.

Have you ever wondered what makes the Wii disk slot glow blue? lol

It's Sony's painful death. haaaaaa...............and blue laser diods.

Don't worry... they won't have to delay the launch.

Because they'll have their production issues fixed by January... at which point demand will have pretty much evaporated in the US and Japan.

There will be plenty of surplus in warehouses for the Europe launch.

@32

If they are making 100K units a month, and than that would mean they would have 300K (Dec, Jan, Feb) for the PAL launch IF they didn't sell any more consoles in Japan, the US, and Hong Kong. Which I think is unlikely.

What do you think?

You know what? I will even go ahead and give an example of a big gaming rumor that turned out to be untrue, just to show that it IS possible for you retards who eat up every rumor you see.

Rumor: The next Nintendo console will be a gaming "Revolution" and not a kiddie-ass, underpowered, gimmicky piece of crap.

And we all know how that turned out.

Y'know, >, there has to be a way for you to channel all that anger you clearly have. Might I suggest painting? Oh you could try masturbating (more often) to posters of Ken Kutaragi.

If the PS3 was going to launch in March, why hasn't Sony posted a Launch Date yet? Do they plan to wait until March to tell when later that month they plan to launch? Really, is Sony does have enough consoles to launch in Europe in March(Whenever) it would only be because they aren't selling as good as expected in the US.

Really, who wants to pay $600 for a console with only 1 decent game, which only works in HD as long as you don't have a older CRT 1080i only HDTV.

w00t! I called it! There he is! ">". No valid rebuttals, just Nintendo bashing! HOW ARE THOSE SONY NUTS TASTING, ">"?

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@ 43

Quite clearly they will continue to sell in the US and Japan (and HK). Ebay still has PS3s for ridiculous prices, and when the retailers get more in, the public will continue buying up.

Even if Sony make 200,000 a month - AND if they do not sell any more in the US or Japan - they won't be sending any over to Europe until all the American and Japanese retailers are overstocked with the consoles. Then they'll fill the warehouses - just in case of a sudden increase consumer demand.

September 2007, here we come. Its the PSP all over again.

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Id rather play with myself anyway.