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Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:24AM (Unverified) said

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Enjoy the damn game and stop worrying about these things. What the hell, how more complex the game would become if Rare stopped to think about these things. In fact, why is the stupid Girl Gamer thinking about these things? I will tell you why, we have moved from the point of enjoying good games to finding faults everywhere.

This is stupid.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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This post was intended to be humorous, correct? I sure as hell hope so, although you missed your mark.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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X-Men was about being gay. Kevin Smith summarized it quite quickly in An Evening With Kevin Smith 2: Evening Harder. I thought his analysis was quite spot on.

And it shouldn't be forgotten that the way some of the pinatas "fight" is by rearing back, opening their legs, and spraying stuff at the other pinatas.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:37AM (Unverified) said

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You guys understand what "with tongue firmly planted in cheek" means, right?

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:40AM (Unverified) said

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i'm sick of reading about this. it's not funny when she says it, when you guys post it, or when anyone talks about it. it's old and it wasn't funny when it was new. please stop talking about it. pretty soon jack thompson will be all over viva pinata

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:43AM (Unverified) said

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And let's not forget that: Bomberman teaches kids to be suicide bombers, Animal Crossing encourages bestiality,and MegaMan is brainwashing our kids to side with the robots when the machines rise against their masters.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 11:56AM (Unverified) said

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Some college did a study saying have sex with relitives doesn't make the babies freakish. Of course the study was done in Mississippi or somewhere in the south.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:05PM (Unverified) said

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This is so dumb it's not even funny. The human race HAD to use incest to progress the species past a single couple (I'm not talking about the parable with Adam & Eve), incest does not produce any retarded off-spring. The only thing it raises is if your family has a genetic problem, like high cholesterol, your baby (with another family member) will have ultra high cholesterol. That's not to say I endorse it, I personally don't want any relations like that with my family for sure.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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That quote is stupid. Pinatas are not human but objects. Beside animals mate with each other all the time. So are that quote comparing human to animals and pinatas? Games are for fun, not for thinking absurd stuff.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:25PM (Unverified) said

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if this weren't written by a mildly attractive chick, it would never get a spot here.

just sayin'.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:32PM Twist said

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Reminds me of the Chocobo breeding from FF7.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=72

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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LOL: "let's not forget the fact that you raise these cute animals to be shipped off and inhumanely beaten to death."

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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I hope her post is simply satire and nothing more.

I hope people have heard of pure breeding, because otherwise you might be HORRIFIED to finally find out that your dog might have been born thanks to incest.

If you've ever seen the dances in the game, they're barely even suggestive.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 12:57PM MightyHealthy said

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Hey folks, if you don't think a blog post is newsworthy, keep it to yourself, because there's usually something you're missing.

Just because a couple of you are "clearly above this dumb post" (and probably don't even have the game), and a couple of you are uninformed (hey Whuh?, ever heard of personification?), doesn't mean that people wouldn't get a chuckle out of this.

My girlfriend (a vet tech) has enjoyed the hell out of Viva, and she's asked the same thing as well. These are just funny observations that MANY folks who have played (or watched others play) have made.

When you spend much of your time breeding, you tend to jokingly debate the moral quandaries of pinata incest.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 1:06PM JonahFalcon said

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The lack of dimorphism and ability to breed with "family members" is basically a simplification of reproduction, because it would be too annoying to find out you only had males or females or family members and be unable to continue.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 1:08PM machewchew said

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Um, how did this become a forum defending incest? Is there some dark undercurrent among video gamers that I've missed all these years?

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 1:07PM gLitterbug said

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First incest, then beating it's offspring to death. Balance restored.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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@David4

F U

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 2:22PM (Unverified) said

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I guess we know that Will is the off shoot of incest.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 8:57PM (Unverified) said

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I believe this was a humorous post so I won't go nuts but I still would like to comment.

I hate when people demand that gamers be "protected" by placing rules in a game that don't exist in real life. Society shuns incest but there is no lock in the game of life that prevents family members from mating. It is a social norm created (and perhaps a crime), but still doable. Gamers should be empowered to create their own social norms in a game and not be restricted by coders whom make value judgments themselves about what is right or wrong.

And fyi, first generational (or even 6th generational) children of incest would not be deformed. Look at rat studies, and even real life groups. The amish, while not incestuous have genetic material that is as close as a sibling. While they are experiencing some geneticly passed disorders, they don't grow 3 feet or something.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 2:19PM SpartacusMagnus said

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Lol. This is funny because it's so sad. First of all, if you've taken any biology or even cultural anthropology classes which deal with genetics, you'd know that incest doesn't produce retarded or deformed babies. It CAN, but so can reproducing with a non-family member. Incest does however raise the chances of a recessive trait being brought out in the offspring. So if one parent has a recessive gene that codes for a certain abnormalty, there is a good chance that a family member will have the same genotype. Because the gene is recessive the family members are simply "hosts" or "carriers" but are not affected. However if they mate, there is a higher chance the recessive gene pairing with another recessive gene. It's a simple Punnett Square excercise from high school biology/genetics where you have two parents of the genotype "Tt". The little "t" being the gene for a recessive "bad" trait and big "T" being the dominant "normal" trait. If the parent mates with a non-family member (most likely a "TT" genotype) the recessive trait will not show up in the next generation (their kids) as the genotypes would be: TT, Tt, Tt, Tt. But in the case of incest, two genotypes of "Tt" could produce a generation of: TT, Tt, Tt, tt. The last genotype is the one that causes problems. With no dominant gene to override the negative trait, it becomes apparent in the child.

Now I'm not advocating incest. In our culture (as well as scripturally) it is morally unacceptable. However that taboo is only for humans in both cases. In the case of animals and most certainly fictional living pinatas, incest or inbreeding is actually favorable; it's called purebreeding or thoroughbreeding. Does this make the genepool a bit shallow? Yes. Does it raise the possibility of problematic phenotypes? Yes. Is it morally wrong and disgusting? Absolutely not.

Furthermore it's a dang game made to be simple and fun. Why would Rare design a game for children that requires someone to expalin the birds and the bees to them first?

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 3:05PM (Unverified) said

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I didn't know Chris Farley had a daughter...

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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Retro is correct, Incest is only "bad" in that it is not good for the gene pool, or for evolutionary purposes

But, one must realize, its a friggin game

In Sonic Adventure 2 for GC, i left my Chao Garden running (left the GC on for over 48 hours) so that one of my chaos could grow to become immortal
In the process, spontaneous mating occurred, numerous times between parents, children, and sundry relations

Twisted? Yes. But not real
Geez, some people just need to complain i suppose.

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 3:25PM (Unverified) said

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Are...are you people serious?? Are you people seriously turning a humorous joke article into a debate of the past and incest???


Are...are you fucking kidding me??

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 3:26PM Hirsbrunner said

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The "cartoon" sucks. The "game" sucks.

Why should anyone care?

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 3:53PM (Unverified) said

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So you're saying that Mario teaches kids that it's ok to jump on Turtles?

Posted: Dec 16th 2006 10:14PM (Unverified) said

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You take things waaaaay to seriously Spartacus. Stop telling us useless and digusting info. I mean, no girl that I have ever known would imagine having sex with her dad, nevermind having it. Its just not a plesent thought and for good reason, it hampers our species to germs and flaws in our genetic trates. Not to mention its nasty mentaly, you really can picture having sex with your Mom.

Ok, never mind some useless incest analasit by some over-thinking reject from socity...what suprised me in the game is that when Pintatas are injured the other ones eat the candy from its body. Just like in real life, caryon is the perfict food! @,@;

Posted: Dec 17th 2006 3:03PM (Unverified) said

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God, get a sense of humour. I'm kidding about the evils of the game. It was a satire.

And the fact there are people on here defending incest... you're just sick. Lack of genetic problems aside, its still sick to sleep with a child. You should be ashamed to defend such a thing. God, I hope none of you have kids.

Thanks for the post, Alexander. Sorry if the readers didn't get the joke that you, I and the rest of the world got.

Posted: Dec 17th 2006 9:44PM (Unverified) said

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Eh, the game is fantastic, but this satire gets one point wrong. You don't ship them off to 'get beaten to death'. You ship them off to parties yes, but they come back unscathed, and happier for the experience.

Faith, you're confusing incest with pedophilia, and applying human standards to animals, which is what this game is about.

Animals have no notion of age of consent or inbreeding... so a game that features animals doing just that, (and not even real animals!) isn't putting anything immoral forwards.

Posted: Dec 18th 2006 5:49AM Lolthien said

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My god.. you people are all freaking idiots. Not only the ones pissed off.. but the ones defending it. For the love of all that is holy its a joke, only morons would get pissed off seriously about this. And everyone knew that until smart guy bungholes started spouting off about how incest ain't so bad.

Christ you are all idiots.

Posted: Dec 18th 2006 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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And Pokemon puts a child-friendly veneer on a practice which is essentially cockfighting...!

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