TIME magazine deems PS3 a bust

LMAO;

I didn't know that Time Magazine was an authority that so called Hard Core Gamers respect and live by their words!

So Time Magazine is a respected publication amongst gamers? How many of you have subscriptions or will subscribe since this article was published?

Boo-Yah!!!

Thought So!

One thing seems certain: Sony/Playstation will loose market share. What is really sad is I used to *LIKE* Sony.. over the years they have eroded their image with cheapened product quality, MMORPG carelessness, piracy paranoia and underhanded spying, and an overall corporate attitude of arrogance. I have no sympathy if they go down.

PS1 and PS2 didn't cost $500+ and didn't need an expensive HDTV. that's why your previous gen numbers are meaningless DM.

MEANINGLESS.

the playstation brand sold (past tense) millions because it didn't alienate anybody, it was the system for everyone. not anymore. the PS3 is now for a very select market, PLAYSTATION HAS GONE NICHE.

if you believe 100,000,000 people who just want to play games will pay $500+ and buy an HDTV for a PS3's movie playback (thats what you're paying for), then that reveals your mental grasp on world economics.

speaking of world economics, Japan is the NO.3 global market for videogames. No.3

if japan was any kind of good indicator for console success, we'd all be playing TURBOGRAFX-1600

Time magazine DOESN'T represent the hardcore gamer, you're exactly right, it represents the MAINSTREAM. the mainstream are the 100,000,000 you keep referring to, they aren't the hardcore gamer that would pay $500 to play games er...watch Blu-Ray movies? millions of casual gamers read Time magazine, and bought a playstation 1 or 2 after reading good things about it in the press. again, not anymore.


by the way, shouldn't you be in school DM? nevermind, if you read this, you just did.





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Comments along the lines of "I hope Sony/MS/Nintendo/Your Mam go down" etc. etc. are fantastically retarded.

No matter what your (somewhat pathetic) brand allegance, the competition provided by these other companies is what has pushed forward the development of that shiny bit of plastic you invest so much of your emotions in and, quite possibly, furiously fwap over every night.

Without competition there would be no 360/Wii/PS3 for you to get all teenage-angst over. Hoping for the demise of the competition is to hope for any kind of advancement to cease.

Time is dissin on the Wii?

"You know you're in trouble when you get beat by something called the wii"

That's more of a dis to the Wii than it is the PS3.

On another note, the 360 must be in DOUBLE TROUBLE as the wii has outsold it here in the US and Japan!!!! Triple trouble with the PS3 outselling it in Japan in only a month! A one year headstart in Japan wasn't enough of a head start for the Wii or PS3!

Snakes on a Plane made like $60 million, a profit. That's not true of even some of the "bigger" movies of 2006.

Considering it's essentially a B-movie, the fact that it was even #1 in the US at all is a big deal. Imagine something like Evil Dead or Army of Darkness even being in the top five.

I really don't understand how people consider it a bust. Even with the internet hype, a rational person would have realized that that wouldn't make the movie make 100 million dollars in two weeks. I think the mainstream media out there expected too much of it.

Meanwhile, places are claiming Mel Gibson has been forgiven for his remarks because of a "vigorous" opening for Apocalypto. It made less in its opening week than Snakes on a Plane did. $15 million isn't exactly vigorous.

give it a rest. who gives a **** about japan, it's the no. 3 gaming market. THREE.

All you people arguing that Sony has failed need to stop with this topic and revisit it in a year... you just can’t compare a system that’s only been out a month to one that’s been out for a year. ALL systems have horrible launches. That’s the way it’s been and will always be. Expectations are always too high at launch. Once Sony gets some awesome titles out things will pick up for them. If you dont remeber back when the fist playstation was released Final Fantasy made that unit sell big time, and I can see that franchise boosting sales tremendously when it is released.

"If Half-Life 2 came out with poor
graphics, but had Half-Life 2's gameplay, it still would have been
considered a terrific game. You cannot deny that."

Actually I would deny that. Your statement is over simplistic, certainly HL2 had no groundbreaking gameplay with the possible and quite small exception of the gravity gun. HL2 is a great game because it is a high-quaility, consistant, believable experience of which top-notch visuals play an important part.

Plus let's not forget, if we're going to talk about this 'great gameplay' the Wii offers we've only got Zelda and Wii Sports that basically don't have an awfull control system. As far as I'm concerned Wii and PS3 still have an awful lot to prove.

One guy on the first page had a good point. The PS3 is basically a cheap Blue-Ray player and will probably end up being sold that way for the first few years. You can rest assured that anyone who is into the whole "HD movies" thing will be getting a PS3, since the cheapest Blue-Ray players are at least $800. I also think that if the PS3 doesn't literally die and get taken off the market in the next year or two, it will eventually make a comeback of sorts because the general population will start getting more HD tvs.

Many people are saying that this generation is going to last for the next 10 years. That may be true for Microsoft and Sony, but I'm willing to bet that in about 4 or 5 years, Nintendo will release a new system that can compete with the PS3 and 360 in terms of power and still have the virtues that the Wii has. Their making the money for the research of the chips and whatnot now with the Wii.

Also, a lot of people are saying that the Playstation brand is strong among the general gaming population and that is why the PS3 will be successful. What these people are forgetting is first, it's hard as hell to develop a game on the PS3, the development kit is very complicated. Second, the PS3 is at least $500, if not $600 (since most people I know would get the premium if they were going to get one). The general gaming community that doesn't research that much pays most attention to that price, more than anything else, secondly they pay attention to what games are out on the system.

These are the reasons why so many developers are taking exclusives from Sony because it doesn't make sense to make a game for PS3 that will need more manpower and cost more to make and then sell it to such a little crowd that could actually play it. If there aren't a lot more PS3s out being played soon, I don't think they will recover from it because too many companies are going to start making their games for other systems and be successful.

Also, I like Studio 60, it's a good show. And I never even thought about going to see Snakes on a Plane. The name alone tells me that it's gonna be a piece of garbage. I also think it's funny that others think you're young Shagi, it's not just me.

Oh boy, I guess it's time for me to have some fun.

1. DM, stop. Seriously. Despite the fact that your arguement could have held some validity, you presented it in by far the most ignorant way possible. I didn't know it was possible but hey, congrats. You're officially much more damaging to Sony's name than even this article from Time. I demand that you, sir, remain a virgin and save future generations from the sloth-like individuals that would normally crawl forth from your loins like some hideous superboss in Splatterhouse 4.

2. PSP is actually quite strong in US and UK markets. And yes, it does currently have more units sold than 360 and considering it's a handheld, that's odd to begin with. Especially for being a first try for Sony. And yes, DS and PSP currently have a close race in the states.

3. Nintendos "sold" is "shipped." Nintendo calls sold the time they send an invoice to a retailer. Trust me. I used to work at Meijer (years ago) and when Gamecube wasn't so much a machine but more of a disease, we ordered a ton for an upcoming Super Saturday sale. We got in about 140 consoles for the sale, sold 21. Next time the Nintendo rep came in, she was congratulating us on the "sales" until she saw the unsold quantities.

4. PSP is selling in large numbers. And even if their "ship" estimates are over actual sold quantities, do you really think their are over 5-6 million currently sitting on shelves? Think about that for a moment. Sony doesn't just ship to stores, stores order units. Would stores order more units if they were sitting on shelves? PSP is far from dead. It outlasted Sega's efforts and in case you missed it, you can thank Sony for Nintendo DSs success. Confused? You shouldn't be. Because until PSP started outselling DS, Nintendo's efforts on the console were pathetic at worst, laughable at best. Seriously, Pokemon Dash? PSP got Nintendo to rethink their strategy and if that success didn't happen, do you really think that would have carried over to Wii?

5. PS3 is supposedly a horrible console. I own it, I love it. Resistance and Ridge Racer 7 are both two really great games that I would keep the console for. But March? Damn... let's just say if half the games in March actually drop, that will become PS3's official launching point.

6. No offence but whoever claims 360 was going for over $200 on top of retail in February, you're full of shit, man. Hell, the fervor for 360 had pretty much simmered by christmas dropping profit per console to around $100-$200 and this all but died in January. PS3 is doing what I expected it to do. Negative press, limited supplies, and the only ones who find them are the prospectors and PS3 fans have collectively stated "Fuck those scalpers" and quit buying the hugely inflated prices. Most people I know got a Wii because it was possible and put off the PS3 because they were tired of dealing with the profiteering scum. I have one and they all come to my house for Resistance matches.

7. Competition keeps the industry alive. Period. The industry needs PS3 because both Microsoft and Nintendo have proven they can't be trusted in a dominating position.

I have absolutly NO sympathy for Sony.
They...
-Installed rootkits via music CDs.
-Play a leading role in the RIAA and continue to use extortion as a profit model.
-Promote DRM

So it seems the media hate for sony with out a single valid point expands from the net to print magazines, here's a few facts that TIME magazine ommited:

-The Wii Launch line up is ALSO horrible, there's only one good game out for it.

-The PS2 / PS1 launch line up SUCKED balls too

-The 360 launch sucked balls too, it's just till now we have a good looking 360 game, and as good as it is it's overrated like hell.

-The price is expensive yes, and yet unlike the Wii you ARE getting more hardware for your money, the PS3 is sold at a $250 loss, the Wii is sold at $250 and is making more than 100 buck profit.

Basicly nintendos genious is, they managed to get evry fucking idiot excited over OBSOLETE HARDWARE!
Guess there IS a sucked born evry minute!

-The price, while expensive for the PS3 IS IRRELEVANT at this point, they woudlnt' be able to keep up with the demand if they sold it at 1000 bucks at this point anyway, so why lose more money?

-The retarded point of the PS3 being "hard" to develop is the stupidest comment he could've made, even using the power PC processor alone on the PS3 along with the RSX would yield FAR BETTER results than taking advantage of the "full potential" of the Wii.

It's pretty fucking simple, if a developer can't take the time to learn to program for a non generic system, chances are he can't take the time to make a good quality game to begin with, Square-Enix, Konami, Capcom, PD are just a few examples of this, not only do they take full advantage of the system they program for, but their games are, overall of better quality than a developer that whines about "programming dificulty."

The real challenge is that, if the hardware can do more, the developers can do a LOT more too, this translate to more work right of the bat, the models have to be more detailed, they actually have processing power to write physics that can make the game have more depth. they can code better AI, etc.

So really, developers at this point whining about learning to do multicore programming are just pretty much accepting they don't want to do more detailed games, i've never seen Kojima rant about not being able to harness the full power of a console.

So to make a long story short, long term the PS3 has a FAR better chance of doing good, the Wii was obsolete the second it hit the market, and the games look like crap compared to the 360/PS3, right now it's only the "look". but in the future that power will also be used to create games with different mechanics that just wouldn't be possible in an obsolete system.

And you just gotta love their comment about them getting "beat" by the Wii, goes to show you this guy bases his opinions on just reading half assed websites and not the facts:

how the fuck can sony sell more PS3's than nintendo can sell Wii's?

It's like comparing the capacity of Mercedes to make McLarens F1 to ford making a Ford Taurus, OF COURSE FORD IS GOING TO MAKE MORE!
If we're looking for an equivalent, it's been out for 7 years allmost, it's called the PS2, and recently shrinked size to the PSTwo, and guess what? the PStwo sold a lot more than the Wii this year alone.

So really, does anyone else thinks this guy is just a flat out retard? Sony makes less than 400,000 PS3's and sells them all, Nintendo isn't able to keep up with the demand of a 6 year old platform and they are getting cheered for it? they've sold rougly 900k, when in reality they should've been able to produce more than 4 million right of the bat, the hardware poses 0 production challenges and nintendo somehow managed to not being able to meet demand, and they cheer them for it?

I goofed, i used Mclaren's F1's in an analogy, and somehow typed mercedes instead of BMW, eh. you get the point anyways :P

using your obtuse analogies, the wii is the new cheap civic that everyone can buy and still get around. most people can't afford an exotic like a mclaren and don't have the roads needed to enjoy it. the 360 is that $40k mustang cobra, 500hp on the cheap, with none of the extras (unless you go aftermarket ie. HD-DVD)


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Except this "Mclaren" is being sold to you at 500 or 600 bucks, mind you the R&D that went into some of the components is more cash than the R&D for a Mclaren.
And i'm pretty sure MClarens aren't being sold at a loss, sony is SUBSDIZING the PS3, just like it did with the PS2 at the start, and like MS did with their consoles.
See, i wouldn't have a beef with the Wii if it was sold for around 100 bucks, then it'd be cheaper than a PS2, and offer better performance along with a new controler to boot.
It's not like nintendo isn't going to make money with their games, this is how console manufacturers deal with the fact that they sell their hardware at a loss at first, so basicly with nintendo, they still get their license money they get with evry single Wii game that is sold, and on top of that they are making money on the hardware.
So you're really getting a LOT more bang for the buck with either a 360 (that is just 50 bucks more than the Wii, and offers performance that's exponetially higher than the Wii.) or you can buy a PS3 for twice the cash, that offers oh, around.. 40 times the performance from just the CPU alone, lets not even get into the graphics chip comparasion, it'd be like comparing a geforce 7800 to an integraded motherboard intel chipset. (hell, the latest intergraded graphics chipset from your mobo just might actually be faster than this thing)

Also, sorry to double-post, but I'm getting sick of this shit. The Wii is more powerful than the Gamecube. Yes, the parts are similar, but they are not the same system, the Wii is more advanced. Kamus, I like your car analogy, but you're still a dumbass. The technology alone to make the controller is probably the main reason it was so hard for them to put out more units, not to mention, like I said before, that it is not the same system, it's like the difference between the 350Z engine and the G35 engine. Essentially the same thing, but the G35 is tuned so it's better, which means they had to put more work into it and ultimately couldn't just keep making it as fast as the old version (thought I'd use a car analogy so maybe the concept could get through your thick skull). The Wii is more powerful (not much) than the original XBox, which was way more powerful than the PS2, do some research.

And for the record, there are many good reasons for the media to hate the PS3, it's overpriced and underproducing. It's "perfect" graphics are not better than the 360s (which costs hundreds less). It's exclusives are not fun. I repeat, it's exclusive games are NOT FUN, they are boring. Unlike the Wii's exclusives which ARE FUN. If you don't agree, look at how much the PS3 was hyped, yet how many people now want a Wii instead. It's right under your nose, you're just too stubborn to admit it.

And you're simplifying the PS3 game developing thing. It may be capable of more, but it's hard as hell to get to it, which means the developers have to put more money into making a game for the system that in turn may not sell that well at all. Do you think they want to risk that? They won't, that's the main problem with PS3 right there. Gaming companies are forced to work harder and probably make less money. Cut and dry right there. And they won't do it. They will make the games for the easier 360 and port them to the PS3 afterwards because it's harder and they'll get the easier system out of the way (companies like EA will do that, guaranteed).

Also, developers have been quoted saying that the 360 and PS3 are graphically equal. Do some research. That's ultimately why it won't make it unless it manages to stay afloat for a year or two, which I don't think it will before it takes too much damage to recover.

And your point about more hardware for your money is not valid at all. The reason it's so expensive is because it's a Blue-Ray player that also plays games. So if you don't have interest in expensive Blue-Ray or don't even have an HD tv (which most households still don't) there's no reason to want a Blue-Ray player so ultimately you're paying too much money for technology you don't want and won't use in most cases (and I've heard PS3 looks bad on non-HD tvs, but don't know if it's true). Bad decision on Sony's part. Had they waited till the next generation to introduce it, I think it would have faired way better, because HD tvs would have been more common and there would've been more interest in it in general. Sony's method was working for 2 generations, now they've changed it. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, and the Wii is nominally more powerful than the Gamecube so its at least worth the current price of a PS2....add in the R&D used for the control, the wifi, the pack in game....so yeah,$250. i'm sure it will be $200 sometime next year (what it should be), while i don't know how much more Sony can subsidize the PS3 without going totally broke. ever consider the sheer COST of making hundreds of thousands PS3s was a huge factor in the manufacturing delays?



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Snakes on a plane is stupid just like The Hills Have Eyes movie which is also another SONY FAILURE!!

Hey! I was excited when ps1 and 2 came out now for ps3 i didnt even get excited. Total let down the ps3 is; the games look just like 360 and you pay more money on a ps3 becasue of the blueray.

I HATE SONY!!!

1) Snakes on a Plane ROCKS!
2) The market is kind of flooded and this is BAD for a $500 and $600 games system that has cheaper competition.
3) Blu-ray is going to lose, because at least two HD-DVD stand alones are going to be priced at $300 in late summer.
4) The PS3 has competition with better price points AND better perceived value- channel tidbit from survey data.
5) The majority of the upstream people that Sony was going for are avoiding the PS3 due to no scaling. Why? Because 85% of the HD displays installed in the US have the problem that Sony tries to pretend is not a problem. Contrary to what Sony says, most people have 1080i only TV's. 720p and 1080p have not been around long enough to capture the share and even 720p displays have problems with 1080p movies.
6) Snakes on a Plane ROCKS! Repeat.

To all of you using the logic that the PS3 is a cheap Blu-ray player, it is not valid in regard to competition.

Watch this late summer when the waaaay cheaper HD-DVD stand alones are launched. They start faster and cooler than the current ones and will be half the price of a PS3 that DOES NOT EVEN UPSCALE. What knowing techie would be dumb enough to by a PS3 for movies? Not many.

The very reason the PS3 is high priced and low in supply (Blu-ray) will be a failure as a result.

Predicting the future of a console based solely on its launch is just stupid. Anyone else remember the PS2 launch? Limited quantities, poor titles, claims that its too expensive and difficult to develop for... all concerns that were soon dismissed and forgotten.

The Cell is particularly compelling because it's a new approach to processor design. There's going to be a learning curve, but developers will inevitably take advantage of the Cell and show us what the PS3 can do.

Nintendo might be able to produce more units, but games create demand for a console, not the other way around. The hardware might be innovative, but Nintendo needs to convince millions of PS2 and Xbox owners that their system offers more than sub-par children's games *and* that the Wii controller is the best way to play.

Good freakin' luck.

WIth so few ps3 floating round (400k??)you'd think that ebay sellers would make a killing on them. the ps3 is supposed to be the most sought after gift this holiday season. Why then are so many ebay sellers selling ps3 are losing money?

THis poor seller earned only US$10 for his troubles-
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation3-PS3-20GB-Brand-New-Plus-Extras_W0QQitemZ190064260621QQihZ009QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This one couldn't even meet the reserve, and ended with a loss of US$145. Look at the sellers stats, 100% positive.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-20-GB-w-Talledega-Nights-PS3_W0QQitemZ130057714915QQihZ003QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Even when they add in the HDMI cables it still did not meet reserved and ending bid was over US$100 less then it actually cost the seller.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-PS3-20GB-NEW-US-Version_W0QQitemZ150072706044QQihZ005QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is the ps3 in high demand? I won't deny there are some good profits of some ps3 ebay sales, but its not common anymore and it seems more and more you would be lucky to break even selling them. SO what exactly is the problem with selling the ps3 at the moment?

A bunch of these posts seem to be overlooking a major detail. TIME is saying the PS3 is one of the biggest busts of THIS YEAR. They aren't saying it's the loser of the next gen system wars. Of all the things that didn't go as well as planned, this is one of the worst of the year. Massive shortages, people getting killed over it, minor technical glitches, all-in-all not a smooth roll out.

FWIW, you can walk into any store here where I live and pick up a PS3. While I was doing some Christmas shopping today I stopped and checked out the availability of the various systems. Every place I stopped had 1 or 2 PS3s in stock but the Wii was nowhere to be found. Does it mean anything? Not necessarily but it's an interesting observation.

"It being expensive is a valid point, but what system HASNT HAD A LAME LAUNCH"

Uh, the NES, Genesis, SNES, N64, Jaguar, 3DO, pretty much any system from the 80's to mid 90's. IIRC, the PS1 and Saturn were the first consoles to have major shortages at launch. I doubt most of you remember that. Hell, I'm sure most of you weren't even born when the NES came out. Ah, the good ol' days. I still have my 2600. That was a great Christmas. :)

As a guy with a full time job, a side business, and a wife and kids I want a system that gives me the best bang for my buck. That, to me, is the 360. There's no way I can justify paying $600 for a system that I'd only use, at most, a few hours a week. I know most of my friends are the same way. I'm no M$ fanboy, I just have different priorities.

The Person of the Year issue of TIME should be on the list of busts, what a copout person of the year! The quality of the magazine has been in decline and I'm glad I cancelled my subscription years ago.

Anyway the Wii has gotten the most buzz of any of the current offerings because it's so innovative and I think it's right to say the PS3 launch was a bust. Whether or not the state of the art PS3 wins out in the long term no one knows for sure. At least now those people that aren't tired of the old XBox 360 can pick them up cheaper as people sell them to get the newer systems.

The first thoing I have to say is that all consoles have crap for launch titles so the PS3 isn't any different.

The Xbox 360 will never have enough worthwhile games to be worth me buying and the WII is just a gimick. (and is just a slightly upgraded Gamecube)

The PS3 has had alot less problems at launch then the Xbox360 had (overheating etc.) and the WII remote isn't as good as I thought it would be and sucks as a mouse.

There will be a lot more RPGs for the PS3 then any other console and they will be mostly better then the ones on the other consoles.

The online services for the PS3 and WII are new and haven't had a chance yet to do much.

When it comes to blu-ray sony doesn't own it so you can't compare it with the mini disc and UMD which sony owns and controls.

PS. The PS2 launch had games that were on cd and wern't any better then ps1 games so you can't compare launch games with the games that come out later on or for other previously released consoles.

PPS. I hate microsoft and sony and so are not dedicated to any console but I go where the games go so a year or two down the road I will probably be getting a PS3 for myself like I got a PS2 last year.

To Post # 38:

Hey "dummy",

If Blu-Ray were a guaranteed success due to studio support, why exactly has HD-DVD been outselling the format in hardware and software sales since day 1? Because educated consumers understand when one HD player offers superior picture quality and is also HALF THE PRICE OF THE COMPETITION!

Have you read the recent articles showing the better sales for HD-DVD, the considerably higher satisfaction ratings for HD-DVD over Blu-Ray, and all the related negative press for Sony? Do a search online and educate yourself. Don't expect Disney and Fox to remain exclusive when Blu-Ray software sales continue to languish behind those of HD-DVD. As for Sony's studios -- besides Spiderman Sony has absolute GARBAGE titles compared to Universal, Warner, Paramount, Fox and Disney. Columbia / Tri-Star is, by far, the least impressive library of films!

2007 is looking like the break-through year for HD-DVD. 2nd-Generation machines are already being sold in the A2 and soon-to-be-delivered XA2...Circuit City, which has shunned HD-DVD completely to this point, is now stocking the Toshiba players as well (wonder why they broke down on this point?)...The HD-DVD add-on for the XBox 360 sold over 40,000 units in a 2 week span at launch...and expect some MAJOR announcements at CES in a couple of weeks. Go back and check out ebay for a PS3 -- they are selling BELOW COST now!! Hilarious! Sony has shipped a measly 500,000 so far, while Nintendo has shipped and sold 1.8 million Wii. In addition to this fact, the Wii is selling for double its MSRP on ebay right now while the less-available PS3 is tanking!

I love it -- Sony and its proprietary nonsense and its strong-armed studio tactics can go straight to hell!

HaHa... with the 360 having sold 2 million (Total at approx 10 Million) in December and Wii at 1.8 million and the PS3 at less than a million... I think the public buys this perseption as well.

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When the PS2 came out, it was about 5-6 months before you could see one sitting out at Beast Buy without a scrum to claim it. I didn't get my 360 until March '06 and it wasn't until April (5 months later) that they showed in significant quantities on shelves.

Well, tonight I stopped in at Beast Buy and passed by the cage where they store the systems and there were three 60GB PS3s sitting there. It's been 6 WEEKS since launch and there is either no shortage anymore or there simply isn't the demand for a $600 mugwump of a console that has perhaps one good game for it. A pal who had hoped to make a killing on the eBay market ended up returning his units and said that even before Xmas, he was able to find them in stores.

With the holidays over, things will naturally lull but it'll be interesting to see how many of what sell in January. If the Wii stays strong, it may have a shot at a respectable showing, though the lack of third-party support (these games don't make themselves overnight) could hobble it.

If PS3s lag on shelves, watch for Sony to spin it as more production issues and not that no one is buying what they've got.

Quick Comment:

One huge problem with the Ps3 is programming for the cell processor. I work for game developer and we are feeling the heat having to almost double programming staff. Consider the development time of a AAA title and your talking about millions of dollar increase because of all the xtra code. We would have probably developed only for the 360 if sony hadn't approached us. Taking this into consideration, how many developers will go this route? I want the Ps3 to succeed. The output quality is second to none and it has some really unique capabilities but it is almost suicide today to do a ps3 exclusive title, especially with the ease of building for the 360. (and don't beleive the hype about the 360 being the weaker of the 2 systems. The 360 is awesomly powerful even if it accomplishes this in a different way than the Ps3)