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Posted: Dec 19th 2006 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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"But tunnel vision, a lack of experience and an insulated community can all lead to some pretty wacky prognostications and some pretty extreme views that don't at all match up with what consumers are actually doing."

Kinda like what Sony engineers did when designing the PS3??

ZING!

Posted: Dec 19th 2006 3:26PM (Unverified) said

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Who told you that the Mylo was "poised" to be "well-received?"

I'm pretty sure it's already been forgotten.

Posted: Dec 19th 2006 4:08PM (Unverified) said

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There is one reason that I will not be purchasing a PS3. This same reason is why I went ahead and purchased a 360 a year ago:

Xbox Live

The way that Live is integrated into every aspect of the console sells me on the 360. The UI, the friends list, the voice chat, the arcade games, etc. I am a social gamer. I only enjoy playing alone occasionally, but I prefer to play games with other people. The competition is what drives me. The 360 is build around social gaming and compeition (i.e. leaderboards.) I know sony will offer some of these features, but as of this year, this is the first generation of consoles where I will not purchase all three systems. The PS3 does offer a lot of bells and whistles, and I am drawn to that, but until they build an online playground that compares to Live, I'm sorry Sony, but I'm sitting this round out. It's very expensive and not much better than the competition in my opinion. Not enough to warrant an extra $200.

Posted: Dec 19th 2006 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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"It happens around every console launch."

Actually, it happens for the competitive duration of any console generation.

SNES vs. Genesis arguments were going on through the mid 90s, PS1 vs. N64 was a pitched battle for control of...something, and even in the current gen, XBox vs. GCN for number two was going on full force until after the Christmas of '04.

The most amazing part of this is just how pitched these fights get for pieces of hardware that folks largely have no personal stake in. Sure, you want to feel like you made the best purchase, but it's amazing how viscerally hateful people get over machines designed to perform the same job.

Part of it is the psychological preference of being provably right - problematic now, considering we just passed the first full month of the next-gen war under conditions we likely won't see again until the next go-round with PS4, the Uus and the XBox 720.

The other part, I think, has to do with not feeling like we got ripped off, and the fact that for most of us, we're making a choice between formats and don't want to feel like we made the wrong one. Of course, at this point, we're discussing potential outcomes rather than actual ones, and this whole debate is more mind-numbing than in any way entertaining.

Ah, well. I can't wait until we get to the weeks-long fights over which system has the better Assassin's Creed.

Posted: Dec 19th 2006 5:10PM (Unverified) said

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To Jeff @50: That is one of the best posts I have ever seen on Joystiq. To judge the PS3 right now would be foolhary at best. Infact, I never judge a system at launch. If I did, the 360 would have failed miserably. It got outsold by the PS2, it came in at the unheard of price of 400 dollars, shattering the glass ceiling of 299.99, the games were mere ports of a last gen system, many got the Ring -of -Death, and a PC shooter was its markee game. But March brought some really good games showing off what it could do, and they replaced damaged units quickly. Point is, give the PS3 and all systems time before judgement. Blog empower what I call is the very vocal minority. Magnification of both praise and blame is the norm, but hey, thats how it is. Personally, I am enjoying the PS3, and I just bought Kingdom of Heaven on Bluray yesterday. Awesome, you have to see it. But I realize movie playback is not for everyone. Just like palying online is not the greatest thing for everyone. Now will the PS3 dominate? I don't know, and really don't care. Will it have its share of good games? Of course. And new classics come out of every generation of hardware, so everybody sit tight, and enjoy what is surely a great time to be a gamer, albeit a expensive time to be a gamer.

Posted: Dec 19th 2006 5:19PM (Unverified) said

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Most of you guys dont understand why people are mad at Sony at the PS3.

Exactly 1 year ago Sony told gamers to not buy a 360 and hold out for the future of gaming in the Spring.

Did the release the PS3 in the Spring? No.

Was it the future of video gaming? Hell No.

After playing Resistance and the Motorstorm demo my purchase of my PS3 wasn't warranted. This week my friend got his Wii. I played Wii sports and went back to my house and wondered if I should sell my PS3.

Posted: Dec 21st 2006 4:54PM (Unverified) said

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Either Sony killed your puppies at children, or the entire Joystiq staff is jaded and out to lunch. The Ps3 has had fewer problems than BOTH the Wii and the Xbox 360 at launch, and this fact rockets the Ps3 to the cleanest launch of all the next-gen consoles.

Umm controllers disconnecting continuely is a much bigger problem than anything ive seen so far. Most people didnt listen so they ended up with a fucked up disc. I to this day dont know anyone with a scratched disc. Of course alot of people thought it was cool that the cirle moved if you moved the console which explains the scratched disc histeria. And yea i saw some people with red lights but do you even know why dumass.....it wasnt because of a rushed launch. iT was bad soldering that came loose on the GPU done at one of their plants. And either way at least no one had to pay for it(those in warranty and then those purchased before a certain date) not even shipping...

Posted: Dec 20th 2006 2:24AM (Unverified) said

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It's true that none (or at best, very few) of us have any vested interest in these consoles outside of our hobby. However, the 'winner' of the console wars does make a difference regarding the future of our hobby. There will be lessons learned in the industry; one of the three is going to set the tone for the future.

If Sony dominates this gen, then I don't know if I'm really going to continue gaming. This isn't out of some particular hate for Sony, but is rather due to Sony's approach to the PS3. The PS3 (according to Sony, themselves) is not a video game console. What this says to me is that Sony is as concerned about or even more concerned about the features of their machine which I care nothing about, rather than building a console which plays games and does it as best as possible. Sony has that right, of course, and they are not -evil- for wanting it that way, but if that is the direction in which console gaming is headed, count me out.

It would delight me to see the PS3 fail, if for no other reason than to say 'If you want to make a gaming console, focus first and foremost on the gaming.' I'd love to see Sony come to the conclusion that this focus was a mistake, make a PS4, and make it a phenomenal -gaming- machine, without inflating the price with non-gaming features that many (most?) gamers want nothing to do with.

Honestly, Sony's philosophy in this generation of systems is the only one I can say I really disagree with. MS has done a lot with non-gaming features as well, but they have generally been optional, and I don't really get the feeling that I'm paying for a lot of stuff I don't want (The 360 is still expensive enough that I haven't been able to afford one yet, but when I can, I'll likely buy one). Nintendo is a gaming company first and foremost, and I love that about them. I'd love to see some prettier visuals from the Wii, and I do hope that plenty of great and epic games are made for it (I can see this being a major flaw of the Wii in the future, but I'll withhold judgement), but I like that Nintendo seems fully focused on the gaming aspects of their console.

It doesn't matter what we all think, of course, but we all have our own expectations and hopes about what gaming is and should be. So it's rather natural that we want the dominant force in the video games industry to agree with our own ideas of what gaming should aspire to.

In conclusion... I need to learn to post much shorter comments.

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