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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:07PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think Gears has been praised about it's innovation - by anyone. Besides that, good read. I like editorial-style writing on these blogs; wish there was more of it.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:14PM (Unverified) said

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I've been reading this blog regularly for about a month and I'd just like to say that this is the most honorable, straightforward, no-gimmicks post I've seen so far.

It should be titled "An Open Letter to Epic c/o Mark Rein"... someone get AP and Reuters on the Line.

kudos
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:16PM (Unverified) said

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To be completly honest, i found the gears of war multiplayer to be very dull and boring, as well as the storyline. The only thing the game has to me is its looks
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:37PM xderkax said

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This is all true, although there is so much more wrong with it.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:41PM (Unverified) said

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You guys making the above comments are pretty much all gay. Gears is one of the best mulitplayer experiences you can have in the shooter genre, and its gameplay has been been praised as being innovative, by multiple sources. I've never played a game that has played exactly like gears, and it is invigorating to see and feel the difference it brings to the shooter genre. It is the perfect combination of action and cover gameplay - a mix that is rarely seen, and Gears does it the best.

As far as the gripes from the article, i agree the boomer needs splash damage, or at least "shock" damage to nearby opponents. The grenade stickies have never bothered me, i think thats a fun part of gameplay - don't let the opponent get too close to you! Causes for some frantic situations that are exciting and chaotic. I've never had so much fun laughing and screeming at my TV when two guys are running around trying to shotgun each other while others are trying to stick them - nothing beats that!

What needs to be fixed is this:

12 people multiplayer
fix the stupid bug where the last guy to join can't talk to the rest of the group.
Edit the game and map cycles from the lobby
add 4 new maps and 4 new gameplay modes, including capture the flag, and some form of time-based gamplay that allows re-spawns.

Do this, and a timeless classic is born.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:46PM (Unverified) said

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I'm with #3, I stopped playing multiplayer after two weeks whereas played Halo2 multiplayer for over a year. Multiplayer gears just wasnt fun, so I'll never got those multiplayer achievements.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:51PM (Unverified) said

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If they would at least increase the co-op player limit to four I'd actually wipe the dust off my copy. I do not care if they have to increase the difficulty. I just want to be able to play co-op on Live with more than one of my friends.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:52PM imadogg said

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"5. You guys making the above comments are pretty much all gay."
Haha wtf

Great post Dustin, I love Gears of War and put up with all the downsides of it because of how fun it is, but it would be really, really helpful if they could get everything fixed. Maps/modes/weapons can wait, just fix the bugs first.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 6:56PM (Unverified) said

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It was clear from day one that multiplayer was the weak link. To be honest I don't think there's enough game there to be patched. On the other hand Halo 2 out of the box was a sublime Live experience that only needed tweaking (BTW it beggars belief that Microsoft haven't incorporated the party system into the platform so that all developers can use it).

I have just sold Gears and so this won't matter to me. After a great start with single-player the game just started to get a little repetitive and dull. While the graphics are nice, although I found the design to be bland, there was plenty of evidence of glitches and rough edges.

Instead I have been hooked on the best 360 shooter this year - F.E.A.R. Of course it's "only" a PC port which seems to be the reason why it's being overlooked.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 10:27AM JRock3x8 said

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we all spent $60 on this game - epic deserves a little bashing.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 7:11PM (Unverified) said

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well tbh its a grate game i am playign it now and yes it has problems i play with a gow clan some times and find it a pain to get on and playing and then once we do all get in the same match people on the other side leave because there is no clan vs clan sytem when we play we play as a team so we will beat most people that dont as the game is very team basted what we need is things like this fixed

i think epic will not fix most of the stuff in gow for a long time if ever

i think they will leave it all for gow2 or 3
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 9:33PM (Unverified) said

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I wish they would at least announce what the heck they are working on. I don't get why they have to keep it a secret, especially if it might be balancing of weapons and a party system which would get players to stick it out and wait for the update.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 7:52PM (Unverified) said

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At #10: Wrong. Epic already acknowledged that the main focus was on singleplayer and now they are working to enhance the multiplayer. A download/patch/content will be coming soon.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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The thing we should be the most angry about is the fact they let it out the door with all these issues. Now some are forgiveable mind you, but not being able to play with your friends...WTF? Halo 2 comes out and its endlessly ripped off by other developers, and hey, if it makes games better, I'm all for it. But why not use Halo 2 as a diagram for how console matchmaking should be done? Developers need to stop worrying about deadlines and start worrying about what theyre game is, a piece of art. Would all of you be OK if you were watching a movie and the camera was out of focus, or the plot had holes in it, and the studio came along and fixed it 3 months later. NO, and we fucking pay 60 dollars for these games....

Evan
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 8:04PM (Unverified) said

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Isnt the picture for this topic from Prey?
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 8:19PM (Unverified) said

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I'm surprised no one has complained about bullet lag being present in the game.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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To everyone saying, "Add some sort of spawn system" You're all retarded.

Gears was meant to be a cover game. When you add respawns, no one's afraid to die. Everyone just runs around with no thought of strategy or teamwork. I'd imagine it would boil down to either chainsaw melee matches or Let's-see-who-can-stick-people-the-most-with-grenades matches.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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there is some big issue that you have forgotten poster, when people leaves in rank games nobody are there to fill thier places, and ok if its the only way ok then put some penalties on the one who leaves before ending example like loosing 500 points, so nobody will leave then, something else i'd love to add .... EPIC HEAR ME EPIC IT'S UNFAIR THAT ONLY WHEN YOU PLAY MORE AND YOU GET MORE POINTS THEN YOU'LL HAVE A HIGHER RANK WE'LL THATS A F***** UP SYSTEM because i have a life i have a job, freinds, girlfreind, dog .... etc, and i cant play gears of wars day and night like a guy who doesnt have anything in life just to play gears of war 18hours a day and he got top rankings because of the amount of points he got, and if i faced that guy i would beat him all the rounds and i got no rank????????????!!!!!!!!! why just because that guy played more , and i the one who defeated him got nothing ,,,,, WELL EPIC YOU SHOULD THIK TWICE ABOUT YOUR RANKING METHOD, YES I DO LOVE THE GAME , and yes i started to hate gears from its ignorance.

my gamertag is
rami dino
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 9:01PM (Unverified) said

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It seems like quite a few of the problems we are having are minor and should be able to be fixed pretty easily. If they do fix some of these problems, it would make the multiplayer go from really good to great.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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Guys,

GoW may not be for all and it's MP is a completely different game than Halo2 MP. I was quickly bored with Halo2 MP, where I love Gears teamwork and squad based elements - as well as the unique weapons and cover / teammate down elements.

It's a great innovative MP game in it's infancy - it is innovative because no other game that plays like it combines the same balance of game characteristics like it does. The article does it justice.. so if you like Halo2 better than GoW MP, great - don't bash it because you didn't dig it, and I won't bash Halo2 MP because I didn't dig it. The haters sound like a bunch of PS2 fanboys anyway.

360 + Halo 2 & GoW ftw!

-Rask

P.S. Please Epic address the issues in the article, or as the author suggests just give us some information.
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Posted: Dec 29th 2006 10:52PM unitas said

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I like the boomshot the way it is. You have to be dead on. Grenade stick, you just have to back up and shoot. The game does have bugs that needs to be fixed but those two make the game balanced imo. Gears is the most fun i've had in years online.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 12:54AM Atsuidesu said

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This game has a shit load of glitches, and most of the people bitching here probably don't play this on hdtvs. This is an epic innovative experience. Blind shooting=awesome, shot gun battles I always win wether I'm host or not=awesome. My team of players I know winning 90% of the time=awesome. Almost all the people saying this game isn't innovative are whack and the tard that said "I don't think Gears has been praised about it's innovation" must of been living under a rock, almost all of the reviews talk about how innovative this game is.. omgwtfbbqtardsauce.. mmm..

This game has got game of the year ALL OVER THE PLACE and it's average score at Game Rankings is 9.4 out of 10. F all the haters that don't know what they are talking about. If the glitches are fixable and they are adding more maps, etc, this game is near perfect
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 12:04PM (Unverified) said

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First of all gears of war is great. Second of all every games that has ever been released has bugs the boomshot needs to deffinantly needs to be fixed. Grenade tagging is really gay but it is in the game you can do it its not cheating and also the host advantage is all science since you are on his server and your sending data to him. Another thing is that their will be a patch to think their wont be one is crazy. Everyone just needs to calm down and be patiant and realize ppl make mistakes and ppl can also fix those mistakes and if you just dont like the game then stop your bitchin.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 2:02AM hey buddy said

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"It is the perfect combination of action and cover gameplay - a mix that is rarely seen, and Gears does it the best."

Rainbow 6 VEGAS does it better.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 6:10AM (Unverified) said

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all and all a good post! i do agree with nick, its a cover game. Responds make no sense and you cant have 12 people running around going ape,the maps aren't built to support that kinda of action. and just because it has a VS doesn't mean you get all the cookie cutter matches i.e CTF, KOTH,etc. A patch would be nice to fix hand full of things (the chainsaw vacuum were it sucks you in from 10 ft away)would be nice tweak the match making on the technical bugs.

As for a game not meeting dead lines! They HAVE to meet the the dead line. The loss of money is huge if they don't and could be detrimental to a small studios like Epic.Delays are costly. Its not art its business.

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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 6:18AM iNZoW said

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I have the collector's edition of GOW, in the DVD special, there is a part they show you when Bill Gates talks to CliffyB after representing GoW in E3. Bill Gates asks Cliff if GoW is ready to ship this fall. The reaction and face impression of Cliff was "Our product might not be ready !" then replied, "we'll do it"

So you can tell the game was a bit rushed.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 7:59AM (Unverified) said

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I agree Evan. What has made consoles attractive to me was that I didn't have to troubleshoot an installation, worry about drivers and stability or download drivers.

Sadly it's so easy for developers to ship out poorly tested products in the knowledge they can patch it later. This is so prevalent that I expect most games to be patched. It's a real pity that the long list of QA credits on games doesn't seem to indicate that any QA actually goes on.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 9:12AM (Unverified) said

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Most of you are pretty retarded, you guys are mad at the game because its not Halo 2. Its supposed to be different, if u dont like it go play Halo then. The only things that i could see in this article that were right was the boomshot needs splash damage, or at least "shock" damage to nearby opponents. Cuz I mean its an explosive weapon, thats what they do.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 10:18AM (Unverified) said

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the only problem i have is the lag tags, and the host power which does exist to me.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 11:13AM (Unverified) said

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yeah some of the bugs are annoying. and to tell you the truth, I'm a little (emphasis on little) bored of the game (after playing it for a total of about 40-45 hours in the past 3 days). but most of these bugs are minor and I'm plenty patient. the only 2 things that are really bugging me at all is the nade taging (I've learned to watch my back a hell of a lot more) and voice cutoff bugs. I did fall into the floor once.

to tell you the truth I'm bored enough to start some halo 2, sad thing is, I have no clue where my Halo 2 disc went. :( at least I bought 4 new game just yesterday to satisfy my craving for diversity, Burnout:R, NFS:C (I rather have most wanted but I couldn't find a copy anywhere), and 2 older shooters, Quake 4 and perfect dark zero.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 11:24AM (Unverified) said

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Great post and here the moderator of the epic
forum can`t close it for stupid reasons:
because they had me banned, only for saying that if a product is faulty its normal to have that product fixed and offcourse some info about why when and how.
because in the end we are the customers!

or they kicked me off lacking to say aaahhhw ohhww every time i posted

cheers dude and by the way when is that patch comming out or the new maps, ???
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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Aam i the only person who thinks Halo 2s multiplayer system is fine... .for halo 2 ,but not for other games?
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Posted: Dec 30th 2006 12:39PM MilitantRabbit said

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I got Gears on Wednesday, and the campaign and multiplayer are my absolute favorites. For some reason, tactical shooters interest me.

On the subject of playing online, I suck anyway, so the imbalance is not noticeable with me.
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Posted: Dec 31st 2006 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know about anyone else, but I was torn between this game and Rainbow 6 because of the multiplayer elements.

However, like most people, with the industry hawking GoW as the must-buy title, I bought that.

I haven't played it yet, but judging by the comments here, the game sounds like it totally loses in the fun-factor compared to R6:V.
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Posted: Dec 31st 2006 5:16AM StatusUnknown said

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What gears really needs is something akin to Vegas' terrorist hunt. Stick players in a swarm of 20 AIs, face off against each other, decent scale fire fights. If you die, you take over another AI. Or simply have a groupe of players fend off wave after wave of AIs.

I get tired of competitive multiplayer, there isn't really any sense of reward. We need more co-op. (not that I'm bashing gears existing co-op).
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Posted: Jan 1st 2007 12:14AM (Unverified) said

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Man i love this game, multiplayer is so awesome, after playing CS for 2 1/2 years this is a breath of fresh air.

I think the MP is awesome, and the game is definetely beautiful and innovative, but onto the main problem with the MP for me:

The animations: It's not that they don't look good, it's the time they take up, for example, on Canals, when you run down to get the Torc Bow, and you switch it with either the shotgun or the lancer, the animation takes a good 3 to 4 seconds, and this gives the sniper a good 3 to 4 seconds to aim at my head and kill me - whilst i have no control over whats happening, Effectively meaning i never go for the torc bow anymore because of the lengthy animation.

It'd be good if they could reduce the animation time, or take the animation away all together - Like in CS, where picking up a different weapon is no problem.

Another example is the chainsaw, when the animation draws you in, and you cant do anything but watch yourself get screwed over by a laggy dude with a 10m chainsaw. They should take the animation away on that aswell, like in CS with the knife.

I absolutely love the game but it seems a bit too scripted, like the animation when you jump down from a ledge which takes a good 2 seconds - enough for someone with a chainsaw to draw you in whilst you have no control.

I really doubt these issues will be dealt with. Hopefully addressed in GeoW 2.

I also noticed the host power aswell, i suck at the game as i've only had it for 5 days but when i hosted i finished top of the server and was popping shotgun headshots everywhere.
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Posted: Jan 1st 2007 5:48PM (Unverified) said

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Overall the gameplay is pretty balanced and addictive. The other night I played with a friend for 12 hours straight. There are some things that need fixed.

!. Communication. It seems like we're rehosting every match because new people join and we can't hear them.

2. Fag Tags. I host and I take out grenades because of them.

3. The whole invincible while chainsawing thing.

4. Sniping seems a little hit and miss. On canals when you rush the sniper and try to get that quick shot off at the opposing sniper, several times I've had the bullet pass what seemed like through the head of the opponent.

Overall the game is very good imo.
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Posted: Jan 2nd 2007 2:24PM DjDATZ said

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I can't wait to get back to residence and university so i can play some gears online...i've been jonesing to play some hardcore online matches since my exams started in early december.
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