Rumorang: Crysis game for Xbox 360, not PC port
by James Ransom-Wiley 
{ Jan 13th 2007 at 7:25PM }
Xboxic reports that an unnamed developer, speaking to 1UP, has revealed details about a Crysis game headed to Xbox 360. Allegedly, the console version will not be a direct port of the PC title that's currently in development. Like Far Cry before it, Crysis will be stripped down for its console debut.The Xbox 360 version will supposedly incorporate similar story elements to its PC brethren, but will feature different gameplay aspects (physics, environments, etc.) that better utilize 360's DirectX 9 technology (the PC version is being built using DirectX 10). Expect full details if and when Crytek finally (and officially) announces this much-anticipated console installment of its high-profile franchise.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Neebs @ Jan 13th 2007 7:30PM
That's how to make contadicting statements work together, I guess.
DannyOB @ Jan 13th 2007 7:36PM
Great, another lame not-a-port-but-same-game, game.
Silver R. Wolfe @ Jan 13th 2007 7:37PM
Isn't really a much-anticipated title if it's not even going to be the same game.
Rs @ Jan 13th 2007 7:36PM
So for $10 more I get...
A) Stripped down DX9 graphics
b) Slightly less gameplay
c) A required $60/year to play online.
I'll pass thanks...
Dave @ Jan 13th 2007 7:38PM
HHMMMM WHO MADE THIS GAME..........EA! I dont think ill be buying it on any format.
EA SUCK DONT PLAY THE GAME!
Ross @ Jan 13th 2007 7:49PM
This was mentioned on the 1up show podcast last night. They talked to the developers at CES. Its the same universe but not the same exact story.
Ryan Smith @ Jan 13th 2007 7:40PM
Yes, for $10 less for the game (maybe), and $2000 more for the DX10 new PC. I don't know about you but I won't be affording something that can run Crysis at it's highest settings for many years.
Mark @ Jan 13th 2007 7:43PM
@5:
You fucking moron. EA's the goddamn publishers. They did not code the damn game. Crytek did. Now shut the hell up and get the fuck out. Thanks! :)
VOODOO85 @ Jan 13th 2007 7:55PM
yeh, heard this on 1up yours last night. they kinda just talked about it casually but i couldnt remember if this had even been confirmed for 360 or not.
moofree @ Jan 13th 2007 8:02PM
The wikipedia article for Crysis says the pc engine will support DX9. Why not just port it to the 360?
I'll be playing this on PC with only up to shader model 3. I'm sure I'll be happy.
metaly @ Jan 13th 2007 8:13PM
More like high-profile vaporware, currently. "Franchise" is being generous.
Uh_Oh @ Jan 13th 2007 8:19PM
Won't be the same game. Still getting the pc version cuz I know it'll rock.
OTAM @ Jan 13th 2007 8:21PM
So like Oblivion this game will be getting made differently for both platforms?
Wish they did that for Quake 4.
JPRacer @ Jan 13th 2007 8:24PM
The PC version is built with DX9 in mind with small parts optimize for DX10. It's like 85% DX9 and 15% DX10. And it's 100% DX9 if you have a DX9 card.
The only technical reason I see for a different version on the 360 is lack of RAM.
Uh_Oh @ Jan 13th 2007 8:49PM
Maybe, but after seeing what happened with far cry on consoles, I won't go even near this. Only crytek can make this gmae be awesome on 360.
FrankTheCrank @ Jan 13th 2007 9:03PM
Talk about an EXPENSIVE game to play...
You have to have VISTA...$300
A new PC with a killer graphics card...$1500
don't forget the game......$60
And don't give me shit about I can build a gaming PC for less than $1500...yeah, some piece of shit. You want some decent hardware that's going to be able to push around DX10 graphics....$1500 is a start.
I'll be OK with my PSWii...thank you very much.
olilan @ Jan 13th 2007 9:15PM
You won't need Vista to play Crysis, it'll run on XP too.
See http://www.crytek.com/games/index.php?s=xsis
GhostBox @ Jan 13th 2007 11:16PM
Who would even want to play Crysis on the Xbox 360 after reading that? Gezz, why doesn't Crytek just come out early and say-
PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM THE DEVELOPERS AT CRYTEK:
"We at Crytek feel that it is only fair to warn all 360 owners in advance of purchase, that the up and coming Xbox 360 version of Crysis will be absolute garbage"
"We have never had any interest in devloping a decent version of Crysis for the Xbox 360 and therefore console consumers should have no illusions that their version of Crysis will be the most pathetic port of any PC game in recent memory"
"In fact, there are many of us here at Crytek who are actively debating on if we should even make the console version PLAYABLE"
"This shouldn't surprise anyone, considering who our publisher is. So if you see PURCHASE AT YOUR OWN RISK on the console version's box, we think you should heed that warning"
"We know that console gamers have built up great enthusiasm for our game and would probably make it a huge console hit...........but we really don't care"
"Dashing the hopes of console gamers and trashing their hardware in article after article is an incredible source of amusement here, and we have absolutely no intention of bringing any of that fun to an end"
"Console gamers please take a hint. Crysis will only be enjoyed by PC gamers with the resources to build a $12,000 dollar rig. That may seem like much to pay for a $49.99 game, but anyone who builds a $12,000 dollar rig probably has no social life and we intend for Crysis to be an orgasmic experience for that PC gamer"
"Once again, so that we are sure that all of you are thoroughly insulted.......WHEN YOU THINK OF CRYSIS, PLEASE DON'T THINK OF US"
We're not console bigots and thank you for listening- Crytek
samaraixenon @ Jan 13th 2007 11:21PM
"You won't need Vista to play Crysis, it'll run on XP too.
See http://www.crytek.com/games/index.php?s=xsis"
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thats not the point now is it
FRANKTHECRANK IS A FUCKING TOOL @ Jan 13th 2007 11:24PM
@ 5. HHMMMM WHO MADE THIS GAME..........EA! I dont think ill be buying it on any format.
EA SUCK DONT PLAY THE GAME!
URe a fucking tool, do some research before u say something like that, ea = publisher
@ 16. Talk about an EXPENSIVE game to play...
You have to have VISTA...$300
A new PC with a killer graphics card...$1500
don't forget the game......$60
And don't give me shit about I can build a gaming PC for less than $1500...yeah, some piece of shit. You want some decent hardware that's going to be able to push around DX10 graphics....$1500 is a start.
UMmm mate Crysis runs on DX9 so no need to upgrade, infact my 2.8 processer and 6600gt could run this game, of course it would look terrible but it can still run it, so ure statement has been owned. LOL
And BTW if u wanted it to look good on an average computer it would be well under AU$1000. PRICELESS!!!
yifes @ Jan 13th 2007 11:50PM
Frank the Crank:
BFG GeForce 8800GTS – $439.99
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 – $221.99
JetWay 775 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI ATX Motherboard – $94.99
2x CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB DDR2 667 $209.98
250 GB Western Digital HD – $69.99
Decent case and power supply - $100
Total: $1136.94
That's what I'd get right now not to mention it'll be a lot cheaper by the time Crysis comes out. Can prob get a GeForce8900 by that time. For those of us who actually NEED computers, not very expensive at all.
$850 for PSWii and all you do is play games on it? I consider that pretty expensive.
yifes @ Jan 13th 2007 11:53PM
all prices are from newegg btw.
sanjay @ Jan 14th 2007 12:43AM
@ 21
play games that are better than the pc games
MoHawk @ Jan 14th 2007 12:25PM
Crysis: Instincts?
Crysis: Modern Combat?
Emmanuel @ Jan 14th 2007 12:35AM
I'm with number 21 except ill add the BFG Tech BFGRPHYSX128P PhysX Processing Unit for $206 because i think Crysis will need that
Kankles @ Jan 14th 2007 1:46AM
@13
I just got Oblivion for PC and as far as I can tell the content is the same as on my friends 360.
@24
Console games are in no way inherently better or worse. I can name tons of really good PC games just like I'd bet you can name a ton of good console games.
TopaZ @ Jan 14th 2007 2:06AM
Many of you are not taking into account that millions of people already have AMD X2, Pentium D, Core Duo, and Core 2 Duo processors (Dual core PC's have been shipping for 18 months!). So for me the upgrade cost was:
Vista: FREE (Got it from the survey offer that Joystiq posted months ago)
8800GTS: $320 (A fantastic offer from Dell after rebate)
Not bad for a system that will have better graphics than any so-called next-gen console!
Ryan E @ Jan 14th 2007 3:23AM
I guess everyone has missed the whole 360 tech spex vs PS3 spex, wherein it turns out the 360 ATI GPU is based partially on DirectX 10.
But right whatever.
Sean @ Jan 14th 2007 12:14PM
Computer/ps3 gamers are such graphics whores. Why cant you just play GAMES?!? I would rather have my gaming and my computer separate. Plus gaming with mouse and keyboard isnt really even gaming.
Dot @ Jan 14th 2007 4:10AM
#21 for the win! It's even cheaper if you upgrade an existing rig. I don't see where did the misconception that every gaming PC costs $2000 come from.
Also, I'd prefer Crysis to remain a PC exclusive just because it may get people to upgrade their PCs, giving PC gaming a small but needed boost.
GUEGRG @ Jan 14th 2007 6:26AM
#27 - This is mostly true. There is only a few functions missing from the 360 GPU that doesn't make it 100% DX10 compatible. It also has some functions that never even made it into DX10, either.
I'm not entirely sure how this would be stripped down, but I guess that would be up to a dev or Microsoft to explain.
edhe @ Jan 14th 2007 6:49AM
People need to understand that the 360 isn't Directx10 because it doesn't need to be, it's a PC and it doesn't need that standard to work to because it alerady is a standard in itself.
DX10 stuff will need some translation but not 'stripping down'.
Dave @ Jan 14th 2007 6:51AM
To number 7.
HA HA HA. You think im going to shut up and get out for a pathetic loser like your. Blow me or better yet go blow your mum.
Paul Draper Music @ Jan 14th 2007 6:56AM
Well this isn't really a suprise?
As much as I love my 360 (and it has many games that the PC just couldn't do justice too, not tech wise but ergonomics wise) a game like Crysis (the "full" game) is defo at home at top spec PC which is where I will be enjoying it.
I am due to build a new system this year anyway so will get a dual core and a DX10 card at some stage!
ManRammer @ Jan 14th 2007 8:31AM
I don't see why people are complaining about being given more choice. Don't like FPS on consoles? Great! Dont buy it! Want to enjoy it on PC? Don't buy it!
@ 30: We have a winnar!
Bill @ Jan 14th 2007 8:36AM
All you people saying running Crysis will be so cheap, bullshit!
Consider my situation. I already have a better rig than 90% of the people out there. Yet it still will blow at Crysis.
I have:
Win Xp, pirated.
S754 A64 3000+ (single core)
7600 GT
1GB DDR Ram
Basically at a BARE minimum I need:
Vista, $239 (dont say no shit you got it for free, doesn't help me). Dont say buy OEM or pirate, I'm going legal and I rebuild my comp a lot so I need the retail version. And dont say play Crysis on XP, because that wont be DX 10 and wont look as good. For the "full experience" which you are bashing the consoles for not having, you need Vista/DX10.
8800GTS MIGHT be enough for this game, then again it might not. Lets say it is, and I dont need the $650 GTX. $430.
Core2dou=$240
Decent mobo=$150 (I noticed that guy above used a cheapie Jetway mobo to cut a few corners...you're not fooling me. For the full deal, you're looking at as much as $180 just for the deluxe mobo you need, spending a thousand bucks on a rig and basing it on a $90 off brand mobo is stupid).
Oh, but my DDR Ram is useless now. Toss that 1GB in the trash and go buy 2GB DDR2=$200.
Realistically, at this point you'll (me) need a new power supply to feed all this. At least $60 for qaulity (can go much higher for the real brand names).
I already have a 160GB hard drive, so I'll spare that cost, even though I might as well spend another hundred and get a bigger one. Same applies to my case, another $100. I dont like my current case, but we'll make do for the sake of this argument, though in reality might as well go whole hog.
And for all that I get to play Crysis on...Joy! My old 17" 4:3 LCD!
For a nice new widscreen monitor, 20-22" again for the "full Crysis experience", it's at least another $400, but could go much much higher.
My totals add up to $1320 for the bare minimum. That's a GTS that probably barely handles the game, no new HDD or case that I want, and not counting the $400 monitor.
And the sad thing is, there's pretty much nowhere in that budget to cut corners. I could save maybe a hundred bucks by going AMD instead of Intel, but given the performance difference and already huge budget here, it'd be really stupid.
Sure, the vid card will probably drop a hundred bucks by Crysis. Big whoop...
You can get an 360 for $400, $300 really. Sure it wont match up to Crysis (when Crysis comes out in six months or more) but have you seen Gears of War? It looks better than anything on PC as of right now. Plus, you'll be able to get great looking basketball, racing, etc games, which you cant generally get on PC with the same level of graphics (maybe in a couple years..). And the 360 is the price of a top Video card alone..
Dot @ Jan 14th 2007 9:05AM
"You can get an 360 for $400, $300 really. Sure it wont match up to Crysis (when Crysis comes out in six months or more) but have you seen Gears of War? It looks better than anything on PC as of right now. Plus, you'll be able to get great looking basketball, racing, etc games, which you cant generally get on PC with the same level of graphics (maybe in a couple years..). And the 360 is the price of a top Video card alone.."
Oh please, the PC has had better graphics from about the time of Radeon 1900's release.
Check this out:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6154261/p-4.html
And as far as I am concerned, Prey is only second to GoW on the X360 in terms of graphics. If you dig deep enough, you'll find enough comparisons for all the other cross-platform games-and all of them proving the PC's graphical superiority. I bet GoW running on a PC with a X1900 would look better than the original version too, if only Epic would release a PC version.
"My totals add up to $1320 for the bare minimum. That's a GTS that probably barely handles the game, no new HDD or case that I want, and not counting the $400 monitor."
If you own a HDTV, you don't need a new monitor really. And if you somehow don't own either a monitor or a HDTV, you will need one for your X360.
"Win Xp, _pirated._
S754 A64 3000+ (single core)
7600 GT
1GB DDR Ram
Basically at a BARE minimum I need:
Vista, $239 (dont say no shit you got it for free, doesn't help me). _Dont say buy OEM or pirate_, I'm going legal and I rebuild my comp a lot so I need the retail version."
Irony highlighted.
Finally, don't even dare to call yourself a gamer if you are unwilling to spend an extra $500 on a gaming system to get the best possible experience.
NoHitHair @ Jan 14th 2007 9:00AM
@6 & @16:
That's right, I forgot that I can use my consoles to run thousands of programs designed for programming, graphic design, word processing, multiple OS boots, emulation and playing any of the PC games that have come out for the past couple decades.
Boy, it's a good thing I won't have to spend that obnoxious sum of money you theorized purchasing a computer to play one lousy game when I can already get absolutely everything from a personal computer in a 360. What American actually even owns a "computer" other than the rich elite? It's obviously that darn biased media that's been lying to us about two thirds of Americans already owning their own PC.
Thanks for opening my eyes.
hyperion @ Jan 14th 2007 1:32PM
Dot:
So basically you and game spot are saying that the differences between a 400 xbox 360 and a top of the line gaming rig with the setting maxed is a slight bump in testure and lighting quality. I still find gamespots pics to be suspect, I just loaded up a save spot from my xbox360 copy of prey and the weapon detail isnt that fuzzy. In fact, it isnt fuzzy at all. but this could be due to their capture technique.
"I bet GoW running on a PC with a X1900 would look better than the original version too, if only Epic would release a PC version."
yes, i assume that Gears would get a slight graphical bump from a 400 gpu and a some extra RAM. that still doesnt take away from the fact that it looks better than most,if not all, PC games on the market today. although company of heroes comes close.
SGT Lindy @ Jan 14th 2007 1:56PM
If its not a cheap port like Far Cry and its at the quality of a game like GOW...then they will sell way more copies on the 360. This fact alone is probably driving them to move to the 360. Its called money!
Couple that with fact that post game support on the 360 will be nothing compared to the support needed for 90% of PC users bitching becuase it does not run well....or at all on their PC. Crysys will realize the savings and move to console only games in the future. They will gladly ditch their PC testing lab, law off 80% of their testers and buy 4 360's for testing...or M$ give them 360's for moving to the 360 only.....more saving to Crysys...more profits!
Pissed off Joe PC users will give up on PC gaming because little Johnny bitches every year when a new PC game comes out that sucks on his PC and Mommy and Daddy have to buy another 300+ upgrade to get a PC game working. They will move to a Xbox 360 to run on their new 60inch DLP set Dad just got to watch football on.
Crysys will be happy because their will be more 360's for even more sales of games in the future....at developed and supported at a lower cost.
The Wii "wow" factor will have worn off and it will still look like shit on Dad's new 60inch DLP. PS3's will given away with every new Dish or Direct TV signup and Ebay will be flooded with cheap PS3's.
Dot @ Jan 14th 2007 2:25PM
"400 gpu"
a "300 GPU" in fact :P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102676R
The difference between a "top of the line rig" and the X360 is just about $600. Factor in the more expensive games and the free multiplayer and the summ becomes just $400. Finally, don't forget that console-to-PC ports don't become more demanding over time, so if you really want you can skip the upgrades until the next XBox is released if you want to play just the ports, of which there will be plenty.
"so basically you and game spot are saying that the differences between a 400 xbox 360 and a top of the line gaming rig with the setting maxed is a slight bump in testure and lighting quality."
Too bad the article's writer forgot to turn on at least 4x AA for the screenshots. I've seen both versions in play, and AA on the PC version makes the most difference here-the total lack of jaggies makes the graphics magnificent that way.
"Couple that with fact that post game support on the 360 will be nothing compared to the support needed for 90% of PC users bitching becuase it does not run well....or at all on their PC. Crysys will realize the savings and move to console only games in the future."
LOL. Another jealous console fanboy. I don't even understand why am I bothering to reply to you.
Only about 5-10% of the userbase actually has technical problems for a usual PC release. You may not believe it, but once Vista is out, technical problems in games are expected to go away at all due to stricter requirements for hardware manufacturers posed by Microsoft.
"Pissed off Joe PC users will give up on PC gaming because little Johnny bitches every year when a new PC game comes out that sucks on his PC and Mommy and Daddy have to buy another 300+ upgrade to get a PC game working. They will move to a Xbox 360 to run on their new 60inch DLP set Dad just got to watch football on."
Again, due to the overall required technical knowledge, most PC game players are adults. And, you can easily connect a PC to any HDTV set. In fact, that is about how I am going to play Crysis once it is released.
SGT Lindy @ Jan 14th 2007 4:45PM
"You may not believe it, but once Vista is out, technical problems in games are expected to go away at all due to stricter requirements for hardware manufacturers posed by Microsoft."
LOL!!!! You asume so much....as in when Crysis ships...how many PC' capable of playing the game will be running Vista.....not very many. You wont be able to pirate Vista like you will XP....corporate keys will have to phone home unlike XP today. Next you asume that all games will use the Windows for Games stuff. Valve and others have already stated they will never use most of it....especially Live.
I am not a console fanboy....I game more on my PC than my 360. That said facts are facts and there is way more money to be made selling console games and they are way cheaper to develop for...since they are a closed system, hardware and software. I would love a link to your 10-15% of users need support. Ever go to a forum section for a PC game...try GRAW or BF2 for starters...with each patch release you see many posts about what was not fixed and what was busted with a new patch.....along with what can be exploited. Anyhow 10-15% is 14% higher than console problems.
hyperion @ Jan 14th 2007 5:44PM
"a "300 GPU" in fact :P"
Why did you post a link to an open box item? you might as well have posted a link to an "as is" ebay auction. to buy the card new it cost you $400.
"The difference between a "top of the line rig" and the X360 is just about $600. Factor in the more expensive games and the free multiplayer and the summ becomes just $400."
1000 dollars will not buy you the best of the best in computer gaming, but we can go with that figure because it can buy you a setup better than a 360. still according to you, the pictures you saw were worth $400 extra dollars? even if they did have 4xAA enabled, the 360 does 2xAA at a hardware level so any differences would be negligible at best.
"Finally, don't forget that console-to-PC ports don't become more demanding over time, so if you really want you can skip the upgrades until the next XBox is released if you want to play just the ports, of which there will be plenty."
Microsoft is doing its best to chage that. Shadowrun and bioshock will see a simultaneous release on both the 360 and PC as will many Games for Windows titles in the future. They are also using Vista and Live Anywhere to bridge the gap between the 360 and the PC by giving developers a standard for both platforms.
"Again, due to the overall required technical knowledge, most PC game players are adults. And, you can easily connect a PC to any HDTV set. In fact, that is about how I am going to play Crysis once it is released."
surely a PC zealot such as yourself would want to play at a much higher resolution than 1900x1080p. lol im only kidding about that last part, but i couldnt resist. well, you enjoy crisis on your pc desk and i will do the same from the comfort of my recliner.
Dot @ Jan 14th 2007 5:43PM
"LOL!!!! You asume so much....as in when Crysis ships...how many PC' capable of playing the game will be running Vista.....not very many. You wont be able to pirate Vista like you will XP....corporate keys will have to phone home unlike XP today. Next you asume that all games will use the Windows for Games stuff. Valve and others have already stated they will never use most of it....especially Live."
Ok, my last reply to you. What. The Hell. I don't think you even got my point.
I wasn't saying that "hey Vista makes everything work via magic!".
Its that every new graphics card released by either NVidia or ATI will have to conform under strict guidelines set down by MS. As the result, there will be much fewer discrepancies in how hardware interprets the game's request, leading to a sudden decrease in compatibility errors and such. What's better(or it may be actually worse in a few ways...) every new driver release has to be signed by Microsoft as well, removing the last possible source of instabilities. The ways how Vista works also prevent any system crashes, and, there is much more done for stability.
"Ever go to a forum section for a PC game...try GRAW or BF2 for starters..."
First, GRAW for PC was crappily coded. Same goes for BF2. It is just bad programming, nothing more, nothing less. Go look at other EA games, even on consoles. They are all happen to be buggy thanks to EA's business practices. Secondly, people tend to well, overestimate the bugginess of a given game. Of course, people vent their anger by ranting on forums over stuff. Somehow, magically, in the past year, I had technical problems with a single game, which I somehow promptly resolved by going to a tech support forum and asking their assistance.
"That said facts are facts and there is way more money to be made selling console games and they are way cheaper to develop for...since they are a closed system, hardware and software."
They aren't that cheaper to develop, you overestimate the testing/support costs really. And, well, it doesn't matter if PC gaming is niche, people still pile money in it, and as long as it happens, it'll survive. Don't forget that the PC as a platform is what keeps the hardware progress going.
Maylon @ Jan 14th 2007 5:57PM
I am still unimpressed with this game for either format. It seems to me that developers will NEVER get physics right, no matter what hardware they use, it all looks as if it is moving underwater to me.
GhostBox @ Jan 14th 2007 7:28PM
I'm watching these arguments about hardware upgrades breaking out and I have to ask if any of you even bothered to read that article?
More importantly have any of you read Cevat Yerli's views on the consoles?
I think it's more than a fair guess to say that Crytek isn't going to put forth a "honest effort" if Crysis is in fact coming to the Xbox 360.
I think it's something that they will only feel pressured to do because of their greedy publisher. Whenever a console version is mentioned or questioned about with Yerli or any Crytek represenative, you can feel the enthusiasm dissappearing like air going out of a ballon.
They Absolutely Do Not Want To Develop A Console Version Of Crysis.....PERIOD
And I honestly believe that any Crysis console effort coming from Crytek will be abysmal. And what's worse, they have just the right publisher that won't give a flying damn what condition the game is in when it's released to console.
Renegade42 @ Jan 14th 2007 8:02PM
A Crytek dev said that he could run Crysis with most of the settings on High with:
-AMD64 3700+
-1GB PC3200 RAM
-Radeon x1900xt
and they still have to optimize the game further. I reckon with an X2 4400+ and an x1950xt, you can get max (DX9) detail, but it'll still look better than anything on the consoles.
Seriously, for those of you saying you need thousands of dollars to play Crysis, shut the hell up, you know nothing about PC gaming.
Bill @ Jan 14th 2007 8:32PM
#35:
That's pointless cus guess what, most crappy computers will let you do all those things..but they wont play Crysis!
So in essence, you really are spending 1500+ just to play Crysis (as well as other high end PC games..that are few and far between these days).
My rig wont play Crysis worth a crap, but I can websurf and word process to my hearts content on it.
And again dont forget, there's millions of people out there with even crappier computers than me. Most people dont even have a video card..I on the other hand have a modern one. Still wont work for Crysis..
The only way Crysis is a cheap upgrade is if you already have a nice Core 2 dou rig, say a $1000 PC purchased from Best Buy in the last couple months. Then you "only" need a $3-400 graphics card for Crysis (and probably some more RAM). But a console is still same or less than that GFX card and will have many more varied games (like lost planet).
Oh and dont forget PS3 runs linux..so at least some console owners can do everything a PC can. MS could make 360 do that too if they wanted. It's just as if not more powerful than most desktop computers. They just dont want to because 360 excels at only one thing, playing games.
Bill @ Jan 14th 2007 8:50PM
@36
>>Oh please, the PC has had better graphics from about the time of Radeon 1900's release.
Check this out:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6154261/p-4.html
And as far as I am concerned, Prey is only second to GoW on the X360 in terms of graphics. If you dig deep enough, you'll find enough comparisons for all the other cross-platform games-and all of them proving the PC's graphical superiority. I bet GoW running on a PC with a X1900 would look better than the original version too, if only Epic would release a PC version.>>
Oh please, the PC version looks 5% better with "only" 2GB more RAM. Give me a break. Xbox360 runs pretty much every game so far nearly as good as the highest end PC. Sure, console cannot match things like 2GB RAM. Which cost $200 by itself, while the whole console cost $400. They also are cheaper. Go look up Rainbow Six Vegas PC benchmarks. Even a X1900 struggles with it, yet the 360 runs it fine.
Does a top end PC have more raw power? Of course, but it's also inneficient and expensive..and right now doesn't even have much more power.
>>If you own a HDTV, you don't need a new monitor really. And if you somehow don't own either a monitor or a HDTV, you will need one for your X360.>>
No you dont need one for your 360. Are you forgetting I already have a crappy PC monitor? Are you forgetting non-hi def TV's that work just fine for consoles?
But yes, I do have a 27" HDTV. The way I setup my PC is in my bedroom and the TV in the living room like most any normal family. Also it is a 720P TV which may be a bit low on the res. But yeah, if I got Crysis and not a new monitor, I would definitly move my big boxy PC from under my desk to the living room and check it out (especially since the Crysis devs have stated it is designed to play well with 360 controller on PC). Dont act like it wouldn't be a big pain in the ass though..that Tv is not good for websurfing, which means just a big pain as I'd constantly have to switch monitors/locations whenever I wasn't playing.
>>Basically at a BARE minimum I need:
Vista, $239 (dont say no shit you got it for free, doesn't help me). _Dont say buy OEM or pirate_, I'm going legal and I rebuild my comp a lot so I need the retail version."
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Wrong. I'm going legit because pirating is becoming a pain with all the authentication checks MS does now. I'm only waiting because it didn't make sense to buy XP with Vista right around the corner.
>>Finally, don't even dare to call yourself a gamer if you are unwilling to spend an extra $500 on a gaming system to get the best possible experience.>>
Where is $500? I will need 1500+. I am trying to save for a house. Maybe in the past I would blow 1500 on my PC, but I'd still feel sick about it, especially since there aren't many PC games worth playing. I could buy an AR-15 rifle and have (a lot) money left over for that price.
SGT Lindy @ Jan 14th 2007 8:54PM
"Seriously, for those of you saying you need thousands of dollars to play Crysis, shut the hell up, you know nothing about PC gaming"
I agree with you for the most part. I have a Pentium D 3.2ghz with a 7900GT and 2gigs of ram. It will probably run the game ok in DX9 mode....at say 1024x768 at good FPS.
The point I think that most people are trying to make is that even I would have to get at a min is Vista Home Premium and a 8800GTS to play this game in full DX10 splendor. That would cost me about $159 for Vista... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060905-7663.html
and $419 for a 8800GTS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127225
So for $578 I could run the game at probably close to max settings. Another $100 to get a GTX and I would be good to go.
If a good 360 version (think GOW) comes out it will be close to max settings on a PC....not the same but close. For $578 I could buy a 360, Crysis and another controller, and another game at that.