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Posted: Jan 13th 2007 5:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Nicolas Redfern: Well, the GC has a really crappy A/V converter to begin with. My GC looks downright awful compared to my PS2 -- and my PS2 has the cheap aftermarket cable!

The display used for Wii kiosks looks hideous, too.

Posted: Jan 13th 2007 7:11PM (Unverified) said

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Killer Loki wrote:"What a crock of BS.. I have 2 HDTV's, a 30" (1080i) and a 40" LCD (1080p) You people make it sound like that you'd have a rob a bank or sell your kids into slavery to afford a HDTV.. Haven't any of you heard of saving up for one, or using layaway if a store has it?
You all gladly go out and buy a console (doesn't matter whhich one either - to each his own) you buy all or a great deal of the launch games and extra controllers then bemoan the fact the picture looks like shit on your 19-25" 4yr old or older TV's. Noobs"
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I don't know where you got your 2(!) HDTV's, but from where I'm standing they still cost nearly $1000! I had to save up for over 6 months to get a Wii (Just Zelda, no extra controllers), so no, a person can not just walk into a store and buy a new console on the fly. There are poor people (me) and rich people (you) and there's more of us than you. Poor people can NOT afford an HDTV without saving for YEARS, why do you think Nintendo doesn't care about HD? I've seen several Xbox360's, and the only ones I've ever seen hooked up to an HDTV were in retail enviroments.

Virtually nobody can afford HDTV's yet. They are way too expensive.

Posted: Jan 13th 2007 7:49PM aforty said

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But at the end of the day it still looks like ass. What's the point?

Posted: Jan 13th 2007 8:16PM (Unverified) said

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Now only all the game would support 480p...

Posted: Jan 13th 2007 9:34PM (Unverified) said

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wtf is with these idiotic comparisons done one low res videos???!!! The whole point is that they need to be the original resolution at least to see the difference. Same goes for those xbox 360 vs ps3 graphics comparisons.

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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I'm calling BS on the poor vs. rich thing. I'm by no means rich, but I found a way to pay for a better TV. It's all in your priorities. While some may say that buying an HDTV is a shitty priority, I disagree. I spend a lot of time gaming, and I try to produce the best experience for myself while doing my favorite activities. And if money is an issue then find a(nother) job that helps finance what you want. And don't bitch about being a poor college student, I was one once too but I didn't go around crying about my income. I just studied hard so that I could make money when I was done. BTW, I have a 32" Magnavox from Target $800 after a COUPON and putting it on the Target Visa with a 10% first purchase discount. If you want nice things you will find a way to get them.

Posted: Jan 14th 2007 3:38PM (Unverified) said

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I couldn't really tell that big of a difference on zelda on my HDTV, but I could see tremendous difference on Red Steel. The overall experience of that game w/ component cables increased dramatically! I was disappointed that the jaggies were still there on bowling, i thought the component cable would correct that...

Posted: Jan 14th 2007 5:51PM erh said

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I upgraded to an HDTV before I got my Wii, but I can tell you that component cables were a noticable improvement over composite cables on my PS2 on my SD tube tv. So, I'd assume there would be a similiar improvement on the Wii.

A composite signal blurs the horizontal resolution, because the luminance part of the signal is low-pass filtered so that it does not interfere with the colour signal, that is encoded added at a higher frequency. It's analog, so you see blurriness instead of pixels, but the maximum horizontal resolution is about 360 lines.

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 8:46AM (Unverified) said

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I bought the component cables from Wal-Mart for the Wii and tried them out. On my 51", the jaggies were absolutely unbelievable. It looked, in a word, ass. Took them back and am quite happy having composite blur the image a bit so that I don't have to deal with the sheer amount of jagged edges in Zelda.

I even tried out having Link stand in one spot, and switched out the old cables with the new (basically swapped the cable out of the back of the Wii while it was conencted and switched from Input 2, component, to Input 3, composite). Yeah, the textures are sharper, and yeah, the image is a bit brighter using component, but the lack of anti-aliasing on a screen that size just kills any advantage.

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 10:57AM abayliss said

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@39

I live in the UK, and have quite a selection of consoles (but no HDTV :( ). I can tell you that RGB Scart is always noticeably better than composite on my 21" Sony TV.

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 1:06PM NavParker said

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How are you supposed to tell anything from the crap-o-vision that is YouTube?

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 1:30PM (Unverified) said

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I laid down seven bills for an LCD HDTV over the weekend, got some component cables at the Wally World for 20 bucks, and maaaaaaan. Zelda, for the few minutes I got to check it out looked incredible. "Look at that monkey's butt!" said my young lady companion. And so we did. We looked at that monkey's butt and were much impressed.

And Gamecube games look pretty incredible, too.

Posted: Jan 15th 2007 2:46PM (Unverified) said

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@syco #50

"I don't know where you got your 2(!) HDTV's, but from where I'm standing they still cost nearly $1000!"

I don't know about others, but I shop online and always look for used stuff. My first HDTV was $400 that I bought used on Craigslist (32" 4:3 tube Sony WEGA, looked beautiful). I sold it a year later for $350 and bought a 46" Samsung DLP used on Craigslist for $900. Nowadays you can go online and buy NEW 32" widescreen LCDs for $600 or a 46" DLP for $950.

"Virtually nobody can afford HDTV's yet. They are way too expensive."

There are over 20 million households in the US alone with HDTVs (that is households, not total HDTVs... many of those have multiple TVs). That is almost 10% of the US population. The rate is much higher in Japan and Korea. If you think 1 in 10 is virtually nobody, you don't know marketing at all. I can think of 20 friends or family offhand that have HDTV right now.

As far as them being way too expensive, you have to learn to be fiscally responsible. $600 for a nice HDTV that you can use for many things or $600 for a PS3 that has no games? If you have to save up for 6 months to spend $300, then maybe buying new video game systems isn't a smart thing to do. You could spend $80 on a gamecube with 4 games instead, and save the extra $220 for a future purchase. If you stop smoking a pack a day or don't eat dorritos and mountain dew, you can easily save $1000 a year.

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I have the Wii on an HDTV with the Nintendo component cables. I didn't notice much difference with Zelda or WiiSports, but Super Monkeyball looked MUCH better. They are worth $30, but not the stupid ebay prices.

Posted: Jan 16th 2007 12:19PM (Unverified) said

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You wouldn't be able to notice a difference between 1080p and 480i if both signals are compressed down to a 320x240 Youtube video. And it's already been said, but something else is going on to mess up the colors so badly in this video, and it has nothing to do with the difference in quality between the two cables.

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