Can the PS3 be saved?
by Blake Snow 
{ Jan 18th 2007 at 4:00AM }
It doesn't take a Phoenix Wright wannabe to observe popular PS3 disdain, its launch mishaps, and concern with early system surpluses. Some have gone as far to call the system a "total disaster" in need of a "do over." In light of its lackluster start, GigaGamez offers a few recommendations for improvement. In summary:- Off with their heads! Even though Kutaragi and other top executives have made Sony a lot of money over the years, the company needs to cut 'em loose for a fresh start. Only then will its PR improve.
- How about some games? The article wisely states: "No matter what could have happened up to the point when the console launched, as soon as the first really great game comes out, all is forgiven." True, assuming its criticized high price reaches mass equilibrium.
- Make the system easier to develop for. To ensure #2 happens, Sony needs to focus on helping developers leverage the Cell processor. And though we make fun of its over-hyped marketing, one Business 2.0 writer believes the Cell can, in fact, do things the 360 is incapable of, if only developers knew how to use it.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Grunge @ Jan 18th 2007 5:06AM
There is so much wrong with the article that I don't even know where to start. The Playstation 3 is not doomed - not by a long shot. End of Story.
Saint Jouten @ Jan 18th 2007 11:32AM
Sony is the Suxxorz
haha @ Jan 18th 2007 4:15AM
Game Over, Sony.
Game Over...
Saint Jouten @ Jan 18th 2007 11:32AM
Yeesh!
MaulerX @ Jan 18th 2007 12:26PM
From IGN article:
"If you look at the on-paper specs, the PS3 doesn't have this mythical, untapped reservoir of power. There's been a lot of talk about that, but it doesn't seem to be there. I have yet to see the evidence of this. It's always hard, a generation out - I'm not suggesting it won't happen, though."
Link:http://ps3.ign.com/articles/756/756202p1.html
This is developer Pandemic talking.
Andre @ Jan 18th 2007 4:20AM
Biggest name today is Nintendo... cause DS did beat PS2 hahahaha bye bye Sony suckers!!!
disguised @ Jan 18th 2007 4:39AM
Game or Over.
El_Chimpo @ Jan 18th 2007 4:21AM
Come on this is a bit over the top right? Plenty of launches have been far from successful and turned around. Like the post said 'regroup in t-minus one year'
NoHitHair @ Jan 18th 2007 4:26AM
Boy, you are really asking for reader backlash with a title like that.
Not that I disagree.
B-Ri @ Jan 18th 2007 4:16PM
there is a reason they arent rushing their games, because the instant they do and you get your hands on them, youll burn them to the ground once again.
Its a launch, a launch doesnt bring AAAAAAAAAA titles. Those come a year later and through the consoles lifecycle.
Can the PS3 be saved? Its really not doing AS bad as the gaming news reporters fad wants to report. They just launched, it doesn't need to be saved.
NeverSage @ Jan 18th 2007 4:36AM
Meh, it's all true. Sony needs to change. Even if you're a fanboy that thinks there was nothing wrong with the launch or the system. You have to admit there are a lot of gamers out there who aren't so happy with Sony right now. There HAS to be a reason for that.
The SDF can take this two ways. They can take it as the truth or add this to the list of articles they believe are proof that Joystiq hates Sony.
Shaolyen @ Jan 18th 2007 4:40AM
And yet price isn't mentioned?
How about publishers start releasing games on DVD from now on, Sony release an expansion Blu-ray drive (a la Xbox 360 with HD DVD) for optional BR games and movies, replace the drive with a standard DVD one, and knock $200 off the price of the system. It might make it a whole lot more popular.
pure_gamer @ Jan 24th 2007 11:14PM
sony needs a killer apps. but i doubt it coz their upcoming games can easily be done on xbox360 while wii continue to deliver innovative titles that is "fun to play"...
Jurgen @ Jan 18th 2007 4:48AM
The system itself isn't bad. Sony just needs to get its PR in line more than anything.
And I don't think it's doing *that* bad in the game department either. Yes, the launch was dry. But console launches with a wide selection of great games are few and far between. Xbox 360, anyone?
furyoo @ Jan 18th 2007 5:11AM
Back in the PS2 days, viral marketing wasn't that important. But in this day and age, it counts for a lot. Just look at the success of the "Will it blend?" videos on youtube. Each and every article talking about the failure of the PS3 will cement the common perception of it being a failed system, and each passing day that Sony fails to correct this impression will be to its disadvantage.
If it continues for a few months, it wouldn't matter what games that do come out, or how cheap the PS3 is. People will just remember it as a failure.
DeadPlasmaCell @ Jan 18th 2007 5:13AM
Anyone who wishes that Sony go tits up is not a true gamer. I could care less about the PS3 right now because of it's price & lack of games, but I certainly don't wish it to fail.. That would just make the competition lazy. And the reality is that Sony wont fail, they've just started off on the wrong foot.
Fat Cat Lim @ Jan 18th 2007 6:38AM
I'd also like to add that the inability to play pirated games on the PS3 may have contributed to the incredibly sluggish sales here over in Asia, especially in Malaysia.
The majority of PS1 and PS2 games sold in Malaysia are pirated, and since the PS3 can't play them what more has poor software emulation of PS2 games, there's no reason for Southeast Asians to pick up the new console when they can stick with a modded PS2 which can play any region and disc.
Blu-ray playback is a non-issue as there are hardly any Blu-ray or HD DVD players being sold here. The majority of households only own DVD players as HD players are too costly. Not to mention that pirated movies are also mostly in DVD format.
Ironically, Sony's efforts to curb piracy on its gaming console may have inadvertently hurt its launch sale prospects in Asia. Once better games come out, PS3 sales should pick up. But until it fixes its software emulation problems or someone finds a way to mod the PS3 to accept pirated discs, the PS3 isn't going to be on the local gamer To-Buy list anytime soon.
Me @ Jan 18th 2007 5:20AM
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The PS3 isn't doomed...
But let's just say its gonna have a pretty rough 12 months (at least) for Sony.
No fanboy nor Sony executive nor professional can deny that.
Good luck to Sony.
Chris @ Jan 18th 2007 5:33AM
"How about publishers start releasing games on DVD from now on, Sony release an expansion Blu-ray drive (a la Xbox 360 with HD DVD) for optional BR games and movies, replace the drive with a standard DVD one, and knock $200 off the price of the system. It might make it a whole lot more popular."
And get rid of their Trojan Horse? If the PS3 doesn't come with a Blu-ray drive, how are they going to sell millions of Blu-ray discs? If Sony does anything, they'll take a bigger loss on the PS3 before they remove the Blu-ray drive.
BPM? @ Jan 18th 2007 5:43AM
Though I do consider myself a Nintendo fan (I like them more than the others), I don't want Sony to completely fall of the face of the Earth. Rather, I want them to be humbled like Nintendo was after losing a lot of marketshare thanks to the N64.
I want SCE to change. I'm tired of the execs telling us there's nothing wrong with their hardware when there are real issues. I don't want them telling us to work more hours. And I don't want them dictating when the next-gen begins.
Yeah, Sony was the leader for the last two generations. The bigger difference between then and now is they were leading with a $300 system. Not a $500/600 one.
The price truly is the biggest fault with the PS3. If they thought they could sell something with the "PlayStation" name for twice what it costed to buy the last two machines, they're dead wrong. At least, wrong in expecting the same amount of success PS1 and PS2 enjoyed.
Is PS3 doomed? Dunno. Looks pretty bleak for it. This is Sony we're talking about here. Every retailer across America and Japan should be completely sold out of PS3s, regardless of how high production is, for a few solid months. Much like Wii is right now, and 360 was last year (not in Japan, that is).
It's too late to drop Blu-ray support. Games are already out that use it, and to create a Blu-ray-less PS3 would be a major ouch to both consumers and game publishers.
What can Sony do to save the PS3? I think even to drop the system by $100 would help. Sure, it'd still be more expensive than 360, but could still be enough to convince a lot of people to buy PS3.
Metalmurphy @ Jan 18th 2007 6:06AM
PS3 doesn't need saving, if you honestly believe it does that you need a braincheck. The PS franchise allways had these types of problems at launch, infact i believe this one is beeing the most sucesefull one despite the media bashing
KC @ Jan 18th 2007 6:05AM
Drop the price. Get some awesome games. Thats what it'll take for me to buy one. Actually, awesome games is all it'll take.
Of course, there is no denying that the ps3 is a terrible console right now(and if you do deny that, you're just HOPING it'll have better stuff in the the future), but all hope is not lost.
In a way, I'm happy that the fact its a Playstation branded console hasn't pushed its sales as much as Sony wouldve hoped. They half assed the entire launch of it. They lied to the fans. They decided to not even release it in an entire country for the launch. Terrible stuff.
I personally would like a new modeled ps3(though that wont happen for years), due to the fact that I hate its size and how ugly it is. Being shiny doesnt make me think something looks good. I can't believe how many people think it looks aesthetically pleasing. To me its quite the opposite.
Theres a TON Sony can do to improve the ps3. Having good games on it is the BIGGEST part though. And that, in time, will come. And I'm sorry, but Resistance is an average FPS at best. The ONLY reason some raved about it was because it's the only decent launch title.
No games = no gamers will want it. No true gamers anyway.
James K. @ Jan 18th 2007 6:23AM
I think this system came out at the wrong time for Sony. It should have been pushed back yet another six months so they had some games to promote and really kick butt when there was demand for the system.
I remember the PS2 launch. 6 months afterwards I was mystery shopping a Wal-mart and there was a stampede to the electronics department after it was announced that they got *2* in stock. There were actually angry people who couldn't get their hands on one that day. It was amazing.
This time? You don't see that. Stores have them in stock but the price point is so high that people either can't afford them or they just don't want them. There's not a lot of games to support it and the lack of a scaler makes me look twice before thinking to buy (and you KNOW sony did that on purpose to make everyone rebuy their movies in Blu-ray format).
At this point, personally, if I had the money to buy one I'd still wait. There just aren't the games for it and the ps2 games look like crap on it. I don't have a hidef TV and my 360 is good enough for now. If the PS3 comes down in price or starts getting a ton of hot exclusive games, yeah, I'd start saving for one, but until then, there's just no reason to buy. I'd rather use the money on, oh, you know, eating and gas and rent...
BTW, to the executive who said we should all "work harder" to afford one? I'm working 70+ hours a week on two jobs to support my family right now. How much harder should I work to afford a game system? Until I drop over dead from exhaustion? I don't think so...
k9
Druidvideo @ Jan 18th 2007 6:38AM
Sony has only themselves to blame for the PS3's frosty reception. Overhyping and over promising and then charging a premium is personally insulting for alot of gamers. Xbox 360 is going from stregth to stregth and Nintendo is back in the saddle.
Gaming has never been better imo
Ps3-hDD @ Jan 18th 2007 6:47AM
PS3 is the only new console that lets you install Linux on it right out of the box making it a computer and a pretty good one at that. That is a real selling point to me.
phranctoast @ Jan 18th 2007 6:42AM
Wow, spelling doom for a system after its only been out for two months. Unbelievable.....
Trigger hippY @ Jan 18th 2007 7:24AM
I like #13's idea of taking out the blu-ray drive and selling one externally like the Xbox 360 does. #14, why wouldn't this be a good idea? Sony is doing what Nintendo did to their consumers by forcing a format onto the public that the public doesn't give a crap about. Nintendo thought that the consumer liked fast load times so they make the N64 a cartridge based system instead of adopting the budding CD format that would eventually dominate. The cartridges were too expensive to be competitve with CD based games that Sony used for the Playstation. Fast forward to today and Sony is forcing Blu-ray onto the consumer and in effect making the system cost too much to be competetive. If Sony took out the Blu-ray and offered a $200 unit like Xbox did, then it would be up to the consumer to decide what they want.
Sony wants to win the next video format war and they thought they would by selling 20 million PS3 units by the end of 2007. Well it ain't gonna happen because whether people like it or not, Porn is moving towards HD-DVD and that is THE deciding factor in the winner of the next video format war. Sony should just add Blu-ray to their other consumer failures such as Betmax, DAT and Minidisc.
Fatass of Kickassness @ Jan 18th 2007 7:11AM
Metalmurphey, however you look at it your logic fails if you think the PS3 is doing better in terms of sales than the Wii or the Xbox360.
Grunge, you declare anything that doesn't defend your precious supercomputer complete and utter bullcrap - and yet for some reason you always neglect to post exactly why you think so... maybe its just the fanboy in you speaking?
Anyways, I don't think Sony is on the right track with the PS3 right now but they'll eventually straighten themselves out. Even then though I still don't see them nearing the sales levels of the Wii or 360. And anyone who actually wants to see Sony fail is a lamer of the highest degree.
Josh @ Jan 18th 2007 7:08AM
Ps3-hDD: You could load Linux onto the PS2, as well. They barely sold any of the Linux packages, though. I don't think many people actually give a crap. I have 3 computers in my house right now. One of them is a dual core machine with a $200 graphics card that is faster than the GPU that comes in the PS3. I work on PCs with Linux all day long. When I come home and turn on my XBox, the last thing I would want to do on it is boot to Linux. Give me games on my console, please.
Fat Cat Lim @ Jan 18th 2007 7:12AM
Being able to install Linux isn't that much of a selling point, especially since most gamers would probably already own a PC with fairly decent specs (if they can afford a gaming console, it's a good bet that they already own a PC). And aside than homebrew development, I don't see any compelling reason to use Linux when I can have a superior multimedia experience on Windows.
Ryan @ Jan 18th 2007 7:20AM
It's simple folks. Sony thought it's about games and movies. Most people are concerned about games first... period. When people walk into the store and see PS3's sitting on the shelf, they ask themselves if they really want to drop $500-$600 on a system that does not have the best / most games available (XBOX 360), or on a system that is widely regarded as being just plain fun for half the price (Wii). The system ranks third in sales, and is going to stay that way unless MAJOR changes are made.
Sony Slowed, But Hardly Beaten @ Jan 20th 2007 11:15AM
Sony has taken some missteps at launch, but that is hardly new or news. The fact remains people are blowing out of proportion very small issues with the PS3 system. Sadly, Gigagames like many others are blind, trying to repair somthing that isn't actully broken is silly. The market will decide wisely what happens to PS3 because the reality of what is wrong and right will be shown soon enough. Developers who ignore the PS3 will see that other developers will not.
alienclay @ Jan 18th 2007 7:37AM
these kinda rants seem to come out more on slow news days,... and will only continue untill the system has had a chance to mature and really show it's colors.
(i agree about unlocking cell though. the extra $200 will show itself not just in the BD player, but when devs get used to the balencing act of working 6 spe processors in harmony. after reading the patent, i think the cell, while not as ram flexable, is more organised and more expandable and has far more promise to deliver the future, now and for every playstation console from here on out. the first party games and exclusives from proven performers like factor five and incognito will push the boundries, and force everyone to catch up. it's still too early. and about the lack of console shortages 2 months in, sony may not know software and networking like microsoft, but they do know manufacturing. it's what they do. i rather they put it out and make them like crazy to meet demand than hold back consoles to create a false sense of demand. remember last year when the conspricy rumors ran around about microsoft doing that.)
lets all check back in a year and see how things stand. by then a lot of highly anticipated games will be out and we can really get an idea of how this will flesh out.
lair, motorstorm, heavenly sword, FFXIII and FFXIIIvs. MGS4, white knight story, grand turismo5, formula1. (and you know, god of war3, rachet and clank5)
vs.
GOW, blue dragon, forza, and halo 3.
saboola @ Jan 18th 2007 7:35AM
So far no video game company has had a console that has been "number one" for more than two generations. History does have a tendency to repeat.
DrXym @ Jan 18th 2007 7:51AM
Some of the suggestions in this thread are totally moronic. What possible reason do Sony have for dropping Blu-Ray? It works, games take advantage or it, it drives business to other Sony divisions and it is one of the main selling points of the PS3. People really have no clue if they think it should be dropped or turned into some freakish strap-on like the HD-DVD for the 360.
As for other "problems" with the PS3... Compared to other launches, things are going pretty well for Sony - good sales, good hardware, no rampant design flaws (hello 360). Even early production issues are ironed out and the PS3 will doubtless break even on production costs sometime this year. It hasn't been plain sailing and Sony can be its own worst enemy but neither is it as bad as some shrill fanboys would make out.
Hugh Mann @ Jan 18th 2007 7:54AM
I can't wait to see a year from now, when you will still probably be hearing the same tired lines from the few remaining Sony fanboys: "Just wait until MGS4 comes out!", "wait til developers unlock the power of the Cell!" "give it a chance it's only been out for one year!", etc etc
Stop telling everyone to wait a year and deal with the reality of the situation now, why should we have to wait for a bloody year anyway? You wouldn't accept it in other products, so why make an exeption for consoles?
Jay @ Jan 18th 2007 8:02AM
HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET....or refuse to acknowledge more like:
The PS2 launch was seen as very disappointing. Lower than expected sales, talk of failure, the death of Playstation.....blah blah blah. Sound familiar?
Now how many have been sold? Remind me - close to 100 million? 75% of you have one in your home. It really did revolutionise home gaming (and I mean revolutionise not in the Apple sense of "took something old developed by someone else and claimed we invented it" but in the true sense).
PS3 has legs - in two years it will still be advanced whereas the Wii will likely be seen for the gimmick it is and in my view will be relegated to a mere child's toy status.
Snorri @ Jan 18th 2007 8:10AM
Bring back grey importing!! That'll sell systems!
Chuma @ Jan 18th 2007 8:02AM
I think it has already been touched upon here but before writing Sony off as a force in gaming, remember the N64 and how the initial hype over Mario 64's graphics took hold but the console failed to deliver the games and ultimately "flopped"?
I still have my N64 and I have to confess I still really like it. Excite Bike 64 is still one of the best games I ever played and someone really needs to pick it up and run with a sequel. However Nintendo seriously lost their market share with it and had to come back fighting with the Gamecube. Now they have learnt lessons both with marketing and 3rd party development and the Wii is the result of their hard labour.
For Sony, I think the PS3 will be their N64. I dont think it will be their swansong, and providing they learn lessons from this then the next console they provide might be all the better for it. That isn't to say the PS3 isn't going to be successful for certain, but it will be hard for them to come back from this to catch their rivals.
There is only *1* thing that concerns me in all of this. Nintendo always made profits on their consoles and their games and peripherals, even the N64. Sony are making a loss on their consoles so it is imperitive they at least break even. I am really hoping that this happens or after all the external gaming bother they have had, they may decide to call time to save cash.
Darc Requiem @ Jan 18th 2007 8:12AM
"32. HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET....or refuse to acknowledge more like:
The PS2 launch was seen as very disappointing. Lower than expected sales, talk of failure, the death of Playstation.....blah blah blah. Sound familiar?
Now how many have been sold? Remind me - close to 100 million? 75% of you have one in your home. It really did revolutionise home gaming (and I mean revolutionise not in the Apple sense of "took something old developed by someone else and claimed we invented it" but in the true sense).
PS3 has legs - in two years it will still be advanced whereas the Wii will likely be seen for the gimmick it is and in my view will be relegated to a mere child's toy status."
It seems you are the one that has forgotten. The PS2 launched a year before the X-box and Gamecube. Thats what allowed them to get away with such a poor launch. Sega had already pulled out the hardware market. The PS2 was the only viable choice for a year. Your argument applies more to the 360, which had a poor launch, issues, shortages, etc. but had year to get its act straight before the launch of its competitors. The PS2 had more exclusives,more games,and a competitive price. The PS3 has less exclusvis, few games, and an uncompetitive price. The only think the PS3 has in common with the PS2 at the moment is that they were both produced by Sony.
KC @ Jan 18th 2007 8:18AM
#32
Just to let ya know, not 75% of "us" have a ps2 in our homes.
I don't like when people call out, that the large fanbase will make the ps3 succeed. The fanbase is A LOT smaller than you think.
I for one am on my FOURTH ps2. And you better believe the ONLY reason so many ps2s were sold was because gamers had to keep rebuying their busted ones. Not to mention the slim version too.
Dan Green @ Jan 18th 2007 8:21AM
I agree with Jay -- the PS3 doesn't need saving, they'll do that themselves within the year -- with more than 10 million PS2s sold, I think they have shown that they kind of know what they're doing over at Sony.
I'm a huge fan of the Xbox and Xbox 360, so I don't say this with any bias. It's just common sense for anyone who has followed the gaming industry, sluggish sales at launch are always cause for concern, but once good games -- and I mean exclusive games -- become available, Sony will be threatening the 360's reign.
Actually, I'm kind of glad that sales aren't going to well right now, because once I am able to pick one up, I won't have to search the web and local retailers for days looking for one, like I had to do with the 360.
Don't worry about the PS3. In all likelihood, their unit sales will top the 360 by the end of 2008.
Paul @ Jan 18th 2007 8:47AM
DOWN WITH SONY. Try actually figuring out what consumers want before putting out a sub standard product.
I usually buy most consoles as I'm a true dedicated gamer but Sony have dropped the ball with the PS3.
Potter @ Jan 18th 2007 8:33AM
i really think people just need to shut up about "the ps3 sux" cuz no it dont and yes the 360 has just as good of graphics as the ps3 does rite now, the games that are out are launch game and they are just as good as 2nd year 360 games therefore graphics will definately surpass the 360 within the next year and once sony lowers the price on the ps3s they are gonna fly off the shelves so fast that it will shock everybody and that is the reason you see them everywhere, the price not because it sux so some of you just need to use your brains a lil bit, long live the PS3!!
Nate @ Jan 18th 2007 8:40AM
This is like deja-vu all over again. All of this conversation about the PS3 vs. 360 is exactly what it was like in the Playstation vs. Saturn days, only this time it looks like Sony's on the losing end of this argument.
Anonymouse Rep @ Jan 18th 2007 12:03PM
Is the PS3 dead? No - not by a long shot.
Will Sony maintain, with the PS3, the same amount of market share that they had with the PS2? Same answer - no, not by a long shot.
Based on product availability versus time since actual release - and as much as a lot of people would like to argue with it - you have to consider the PS3 launch to be a failure. There should have been no way for Sony to actually meet the demand with an appropriate supply at this point in time if this was a successful launch.
Basically, look at the 360 launch last year - more units actually available for the global launch (YES, there were - 400K/400K/200K vs 200K/0/100K) and then demand in Europe and the US still outstripped supply until March and into April - it was early April before you started seeing any regular amounts of 360 consoles in stores for more than a few hours.
Now the Wii is experiencing this as well - sold out, demand is still higher than supply even with huge amounts already sold - and this weekend you'll probably see everything sell out again that's in the ads.
In the meantime, there were 16 PS3 60GB units sitting on the shelf in the Best Buy I was in yesterday, and they had another 15 in the backroom. (These were NOT display boxes - I checked.) 31 units physically in inventory - and it's only two months after the product that could help cure cancer (hey, I'm not making that one up - http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/24/help-cure-cancer-with-your-ps3/ ) has met the product demand. That blatantly spells out FAILED LAUNCH OF PRODUCT.
Will the actual launch in Europe help? Certainly - ANY positive publicity will help Sony at this point. But you're looking at U.S. sales of 688K by end of December - and January probably isn't going to match December in sale, so they may not break 1 million by the end of January. At this point, and given the way things usually go in console sales during the remainder of the year, you're looking at MAYBE 3 million total console sales by the end of the year.
Which ultimately puts the PS3 in 4th place among the consoles behind the 360, Wii, and PS2 - and that's market share Sony cannot afford to lose.
As was stated in the article, give them some games and things could turn around. But let's get real, people - Joe Wal-Mart is NOT going to buy the PS3 to run Linux on it, he's buying an eMachine or HP that runs XP or Vista for his computer stuff. Anectdotal, but I've phyisically listened to customers talk to sales staff in Wal-Mart (and this is NOT a hick town - redneck, yes, but NOT hicks) because they're amazed at the price. $600 for a gaming console - and that's how THEY see it - is too much.
wiconley @ Jan 18th 2007 8:58AM
One thing ruined the launch: price. 360, WII wouldn't be an issue if the ps3 had a $300-$400 price tage. And while, I understand that, it's more a function of affordability than actual interest/desire to own the system. same thing with psp vs DS. $250 vs $130... ummm, not exactly rocket science.
Boss Tempo @ Jan 18th 2007 8:54AM
There's still the fact that many of us just don't care to support companies who relentlessly ass rape their customers. Spyware CDs, horrible warranties (Xbox is still fixing units at no cost BTW), monthly product recalls, proprietary failing media formats...Oh and don't forget that the adult film industry has decided to go with HD DVD instead of BluRay - This is exactly what killed Sony's other failed format Betamax years ago. You all get Disney. We get porn. Have fun trying to get a rise out of Snow White!
Sony just sucks. Get over it and buy something else worth having.
Hugh Mann @ Jan 18th 2007 9:07AM
@36 and a load of others
When will people get it into their heads that not everyone who owns/owned as PS2 is automatically going to buy a PS3. i owned, and loved my Megadrive (or Genesis, as you say in the yoo-ess-ay), it was a great console, but it did NOT cause me to rush out and buy a Saturn.
Brand loyalty will only take companies so far, and at the current price of the PS3 you'd have to be extremely f*ckin loyal to shell out that much for a brand name.
Pulse @ Jan 18th 2007 9:06AM
Is it stupid and fanboyous to say that all non Sony lovers should die in the pits of hell and never return, yeah, it is, its the same thing with saying down with Sony, there are some people that love the Playstation, as well as the Nintendo as well as the Xbox, if you forget that, then you are the biggest fanboy on this dear Earth, you don't buy a console because it is doing the best, thats stupid, you buy it because you enjoy the list of games on it.
If you say down with a company that another person enjoys playing games on and you have no consideration for the fun they may be having with thier console, you are selfish, a rabid fanboy a follower and a glory hogger. End of rant.