Sony site confuses GT:HD with PGR3
Hey, it's an easy mistake to make. Both Gran Turismo: HD and Project Gotham Racing 3 feature fierce and fancy cars hurtling about lavishly rendered tracks -- for all intents and purposes, the two games are identical. Of course, our amazingly trained eyes immediately noticed the bizarre appearance of a PGR3 render on the Sony PSP Connect website, innocently advertising a new downloadable GT:HD trailer.
"That's not true HD!" we exclaimed, index fingers twirling in the air. "Anyone with barely functioning eyes can see that's an image from a graphically inferior competitor!" We ended off with a resounding "HMPH!" before navigating to the next amusing, albeit inconsequential piece of news.
[Thanks to everyone who sent this in.]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Iscariote @ Jan 25th 2007 1:58PM
Good hustle Sony.
Myke @ Jan 25th 2007 2:02PM
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
Oh man, do you guys here those footsteps????
IT'S TEH SONIE DEFENTSE FORSE!!!!!
Jonah Falcon @ Jan 25th 2007 2:02PM
Sony's foot must be a bloody mess from all the bullets lodged in it.
Metalmurphy @ Jan 25th 2007 2:04PM
HAHAHAHAH Thats gotta be the funniest shit i've heard in years lol. Can't they get in trouble cause of this?
Btw its amazing how even a PGR3 pre-render doesn't look as good as GT HD in game oO
Aex @ Jan 25th 2007 2:05PM
Hehe, thats kinda funny. Out of all of the gorgeous pics on the internet of GT HD, the webmaster decides to use one from another game. I wonder if people get fired for mistakes like that?
kabes @ Jan 25th 2007 2:06PM
LAWL!
here is the original screenshot they ripped it from
http://www.bizarrecreations.com/games_img/pgr3/pgr313.jpg
A new low sony, a new low.
Vidikron @ Jan 25th 2007 2:11PM
How does something like this even happen?
Oobgarm @ Jan 25th 2007 2:13PM
I think a little bit of pee came out.
That's the funniest damned thing I've seen/read in ages.
Je2037 @ Jan 25th 2007 2:14PM
someone = fired
Kamalot @ Jan 25th 2007 2:15PM
I think that it is painfully clear that Microsoft has been using screen caps for Gran Turismo HD in order to promote Project Gotham Racing on the 360.
TRUTH @ Jan 25th 2007 2:15PM
Told you guys the 360 was the s***. This is funny.
Paul @ Jan 25th 2007 2:18PM
Dugg: http://www.digg.com/gaming_news/Another_Sony_blunder_Gran_Turismo_HD_to_feature_PGR3
Jake @ Jan 25th 2007 2:19PM
They couldn't find and GT HD pre-renders so they had to use a PGR one. It is illegal to advertise a PS3 game with in-game renders.
AirIntake @ Jan 25th 2007 2:19PM
Sony: "As you can see, GT:HD will look exactly the same as an Xbox 360 launch game from over a year ago, but since it's made by Sony, it is much better."
maverick_saturn_626 @ Jan 25th 2007 2:19PM
Sony = *Hides face in shame* Hope they don't go and put a pick of Gears of war for Unreal Tournament 2007 next -_-
maverick_saturn_626 @ Jan 25th 2007 2:22PM
Are they trying to say that GT4 looked as good as PGR3 :O Well thats some kind of insult :O
kabes @ Jan 25th 2007 2:26PM
As if sony needed to give us more ammunition.
Sony = fail.
Psykoboy2 @ Jan 25th 2007 2:28PM
Kam...it was funny at http://www.evilavatar.com and it still works here.
Vidikron @ Jan 25th 2007 2:28PM
@9
Yeah, probably some low-level web developer. You know, this clearly isn't a decision Sony made, it's obviously a mistake made by one of their web guys, but how does stuff like this keep happening to them? Like the mistake over their controller winning that award. It wasn't their fault, just some miscommunication. But somehow, even when they [corporate] aren't making wild claims and making news themselves, something like this happens and they still get bad press.
Psykoboy2 @ Jan 25th 2007 2:31PM
The fans of Sony can defend all they want on this one, and I don't really blame them. This is just some low level totem pole guy who screwed up. He'll lose his job over it, but I have no reason to believe anyone in corporate would allow this to go through.
Jonah Falcon @ Jan 25th 2007 2:32PM
No one gets fired at Sony. They get "laterally transfered".
teknomusik @ Jan 25th 2007 2:32PM
LMAO! I wonder what the folks at Bizarre think about this!
Buckshot @ Jan 25th 2007 2:32PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Mark Felps @ Jan 25th 2007 2:41PM
He won't get fired. He'll become the new Cellius web-designer.
Flit @ Jan 25th 2007 2:42PM
Wow. Just wow. Just like Rome, sony is falling apart within itself before it gets conquered.
Wii360dsPSP @ Jan 25th 2007 2:43PM
Bizarre and Microsoft need to send Sony a cease and desist letter for using their copyrighted images from their hit game PGR3.
Press release and legal action on this one.
Flit @ Jan 25th 2007 2:44PM
btw: thank you joystiq for finally implementing the engadget password system.
Bloo @ Jan 25th 2007 2:47PM
"Btw its amazing how even a PGR3 pre-render doesn't look as good as GT HD in game oO"
BTW I own a PS3 with GT HD and a 360 with PGR3 both hooked up to a SONY 60" SXRD and would like to tell you to take your BS fanboy crap somewhere else. GT HD has all the jaggies of PGR3 but not the HDR lighting or amount of cars on the track at the same time. But hey, at least you have those brown eyes...
neale cranna @ Jan 25th 2007 2:49PM
haha it even says "Microsoft Game Studios" in the corner
neale @ Jan 25th 2007 2:51PM
why the hell does it display my full name
Metalmurphy @ Jan 25th 2007 2:53PM
#28
GT HD doesn't have HDR? lol And you say you have a PS3 with GT HD? Sure you do... It has HDR AND bloom pass. Not only that but runs at 1080p and 60fps while PGR runs BELOW 720p at 30fps...
PGR3 is MILES behind GT HD, sure it has more cars, but GT HD is just a preview, not a full game...
Here's the HDR that GT HD doesn't have...
http://www.playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/8/9/8953/Screens/0292.jpg
Nice try...
Kamalot @ Jan 25th 2007 2:54PM
From: Sony Connect Bigwig
To: Drones
Congratulations on closing out January 2007 with a bang! Our site traffic has gone through the roof with unprecedented buzz about the new Gran Turismo HD videos. Thanks for everyone's hard work on reinforcing just what the PayStation brand really means to our endless supply of disposable fans.
In other news, we have a new opening in the web graphics department. Experienced candidates should be well versed with the rights usage of stock photography.
-Bigwig
Todd @ Jan 25th 2007 2:58PM
Obviously if PGR were inferior then the rendered pic wouldn't be used in place of GT HD. Sony = Idiots.
Rob @ Jan 25th 2007 3:02PM
First, the Metal Slug ad they had on their site which had it advertising the Wii version, now this!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Plus their commercials suck in every country they're in. Wow. The SONY PR Firm has some lazy ass people working for them.
Miles Edgeworth @ Jan 25th 2007 3:06PM
#31
HDR and Bloom are two different methods for creating the same effect. Using both would be a blatant waste of system resources for no other purpose than to brag about how "powerful" your system is, which sounds exactly like something Sony would do.
Also, keep in mind that PGR3 was a rushed port to 360 from Xbox 1 source code, and GT:HD is not actually 1080p @ 60FPS.
GJM @ Jan 25th 2007 3:09PM
"GT HD doesn't have HDR? lol And you say you have a PS3 with GT HD? Sure you do... It has HDR AND bloom pass. Not only that but runs at 1080p and 60fps while PGR runs BELOW 720p at 30fps...
PGR3 is MILES behind GT HD, sure it has more cars, but GT HD is just a preview, not a full game...
Here's the HDR that GT HD doesn't have...
http://www.playscope.com/medias/Jeux-Video/PS3/8/9/8953/Screens/0292.jpg
Nice try..."
Yes I do have it and the lighting is horrible. Maybe it has HDR in the replays but it sure doesnt seem so when playing regular. I like how you bring up the FUD about below 720p etc though.
IF you would like to pay me for my time I will gladly take pictures for you to prove I have a PS3, a 360, and while were at it both of my 60" SXRDs, my Jaguar, my Channel F, my 7800, my NEO GEO, and whatever else you want to see from my extensive collection dating bak to the 70s. I'm sorry your fanboy dreams have been crushed by someone eho owns all of the consoles has has the proper hardware to use them on as well.
Simply put, GT HD is very disappointing... unlike Motorstorm. Get over it.
bmac @ Jan 25th 2007 3:11PM
I hate to try and defend sony on this one, but I do want to know exactly who provides the content for that site, ie: the videos themselves, as well as the thumbs/previews. Sony should have someone checking stuff like that for sure since they are running the site itself, but the part of me that works at a design agency that receives stuff from third-parties to be placed into first party ads wonders if that isn't what happened somehow. We've done similar things here before, because we didn't know anything about the image, and were simply told where to place it and when.
On the other hand... someone take the gun out of Sony's hand before they don't even have a foot left to shoot. After the step forward of fixing the ps2 problems, they do something like this?
GJM @ Jan 25th 2007 3:11PM
Sorry for all of the spelling/grammar errors. Yikes! I think I'll read before posting next time LOL.
carlos @ Jan 25th 2007 3:12PM
who ever sais that pgr is better than GT should get SH0t gt is better then pgr no matter what way u look at it
carlos @ Jan 25th 2007 3:13PM
hey checking the password system right now
Pip @ Jan 25th 2007 3:23PM
GT is better as far as a simulation racer goes. PGR is an excellent arcade racer.
However, Forza 2 will wipe them both off the floor, much like the last one did.
deaftly @ Jan 25th 2007 3:24PM
this is the best thing i have seen in a while, why do people even support this horrible company, where are all the ps fanbots trying to defend this shit
mcloki @ Jan 25th 2007 3:29PM
Dear Steve Jobs
Please, please, please, for the love of God just buy Sony out.
Nick @ Jan 25th 2007 3:29PM
Call up the lawyers boys and girls, thats copyright infringement you're seeing.
Metalmurphy @ Jan 25th 2007 3:31PM
36. Sorry wrong again, it does have HDR during gameplay. How the hell can you say it doesn't when ITS SO FREAKING CLEAR IT DOES, the track passes right through a tunnel, its impossible to miss the HDR... unless... YOU NEVER PLAYED IT.
And yes... the lightning in the game is horrible...
It shows:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/Dazzyman/7-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/Dazzyman/GT%20HD%20inside/GT%20replays/000.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/xbox360pictures/Untitled-50-2.jpg
Oh and for the record, you DON'T own a PS3. If you did you would know what you were talking about...
Saying you do is easy. I have all the systems that ever came out. See? Easy!
dadidito @ Jan 25th 2007 3:36PM
CLASSIC! Nuff Said... this is for the books!
Lawyers are getting hard ons all over the U.S. on this one.
DarkTetsuya @ Jan 25th 2007 3:38PM
AirIntake: I LOL'd.
First they were advertising the Wii version of MS Anthology, now this? Maybe Sony's backing this whole 'Wii60' thing and just isn't telling us.
JoseMiguel @ Jan 25th 2007 3:43PM
Sony copies? Oh yeah, you bet.
Did someone at Sony push the "auto destruct" button a while ago?
I
mean, jesus F.. Christ how can they screw up that much?
GJM @ Jan 25th 2007 3:47PM
"Oh and for the record, you DON'T own a PS3. If you did you would know what you were talking about...
Saying you do is easy. I have all the systems that ever came out. See? Easy!"
Keep posting your PS3 FUD on here, Kotaku etc. It won't matter. I guess my name, Bloo_Sundae, on the GTHD time trial leaderboards mean I don't own a PS3 LOL. Put me on your "friends" list while you're at it and I'll hit you back. Want my 360 gamertag too? How about my Wii and DS friend codes. I'm an example of a gaming fan while you are an example of a Sony fan. It's sad and it shows.
-=v00d00=- @ Jan 25th 2007 3:52PM
a little bird has already passed this on to MS PR and legal...
;-)