Sony once more says: "Blu-ray is very cool"

Wiiboy ...stick to playing games on the Wii. On second thought, why don't you stop playing games on your Wii console and maybe read some news sites.

The latest Nielsen Videoscan data has Blu-Ray discs outselling HD DVD discs more than 2 to 1. On top of that, Blu-Ray has outsold HD DVD on Amazon and DVDEmpire consistently in the month of January.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/videoscan-releases-hd-dvd-blu-ray-charts-results-still-inco/

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/
http://www.dvdempire.com/index.asp?userid=99365261265541&tab_id=60&site_id=69&site_media_id=0

prolly cuz wen blu ray dominates, its going to b the only format out there, unless u get a hybrid player. i mean its doin alot better now from lik 7 months ago, pwning the competition statisically. bluray can be a shit format but if it dominates the competition ur stuck with it.

Ps: 50 gig memory discs are pretty kool :p

The first official independent sales data for HD/BR movies has finally been released by Nielson VideoScan. And it shows that BR is pretty quickly becoming the dominate format.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Disc_Sales/Finally:_VideoScan_Releases_High-Def_Disc_Sales_Numbers_/456In

the first two weeks of january, BR outsold HDDVD by over 2:1. By the second week of january, BR was almost at 3:1 over HDDVD.

And not only that, BR has also managed to almost catch up to HDDVDs TOTAL sales. BR gained 7% on HDDVD in ONE week in january.

"More interestingly, VideoScan's numbers indicate that during the seven days between Jan 7 and Jan 14, Blu-ray managed to close the gap of total discs sold since inception with HD DVD by over seven percentage points, suggesting that if the current trend continues, the two formats could be at disc sales parity within weeks."

Blu-ray has started gaining some incredible momentum. HD-DVD fanboys can deny it all they want, but with every single piece of information that comes out indicating Blu-ray dominance, its only a matter of time before even the fanboys have to accept what is going on.-Colin

(sorry Colin, I accidentally deleted this comment in a fit of absentmindedness!)

Wow, "PS3 covered in dust," apparently you aren't aware of how the cost of manufacutring decreases over time. Ever bought a first-gen DVD player with those first couple of discs? Yeeeeeeeeah you'd be paying what you'd be paying now for Blu-ray.

The sooner this format war is over, the sooner BD-ROMs will drop in price. And we'll all be paying $14.99 for new releases again. By the way most DVDs still are $20 anyways. With some special editions being $30.

So... yeeeeeeeah.

Who cares about Blu-Ray? I do for one, and I would not doubt that I am in the majority of Hi Def TV owners that do. According to Forbes.com 2.5 million Americans will buy a new Hi Def Television just for the Super Bowl.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/02/01/ap3383994.html

This does not include the already large number of homes that already have one (approx 12 to 15 percent of American homes).

While I will not likely replace my existing DVD collection by buying the same titles on Blu-Ray, I will look for new movies in the format. I love content in HD, just as with digital over regular cable or cable over antenna, you just do not know what you where missing until you are given a better option.

I think that Sony fans finally get to say the phrase "damage control" now... and not while in damage control mode, eh?

People said the exact same thing when DVD's first came out."Who's gonna pay more for DVD's?(they were more expensive when they first came out), Who's gonna re-buy their entire VHS library?(everybody!) You need a premium set up to take advantage of DVD's(did'nt stop everyone from buying them). Check your statistics- HD sets are falling in price and people are buying-alot. Its only gonna get cheaper and more common, until sure enough, HD is mainstream and everyone will want HD format movies. Yeah, we are early adopters right now, but the future is owned by people with foresight.
If you look on the HD websites, people are buying the PS3 just to watch movies- Sony has roped in a bunch of movie fans who will probably also buy a couple of software titles, like Final Fantasy.
I havent heard about any problems with overuse on the PS3-you must be thinking of the 360, we all no what happens when that system gets overused.

I don't care what anyone says there is something really kickass about buying an Hd-dvd combo that places to moive on standard too. Blue-ray will never be able to do that, and the dvd player will be around for along time. So I'll be enjoying my movies on a dual disc on any player I want to watch it on. You can stay with the one formet blue-ray. I'll stay with the (same price as a blue-ray disc) Dual combo disc.

Hey regrezz? Just because people buy an Hdtv. It doesn't mean they feel like going out and buying another format. They're buying the tv for a reason Hd broadcasting. (hint: Super bowl)Stats are one thing. Common sence is another. I agree that Hd is super better then normal dvd but people really don't care that much. You ask random people on the street and ask them if they prefer Blue-ray or Hd-dvd, majority will give you a "what's that?", type answer.

Not everyone in America/ world is up to date on technology like everyone here is.

it gives he light of death right? XD

You forget that no one gives a shit about Blu-Ray. It only attracts movie nerds and PS3 owners. It's never going to be mainstream. I agree that if you ask one what BluRay/HDDVD are, you'll get "what's that?"

People are smart to see that BluRay is a ripoff. DVD movie prices drop quick, a movie that comes out this week will be lower than $10 in a month. Bluray prices stay are still the same.

Great insight Freddy. Now go fuck off, moron.

Hey moron number 13, you wrote that for nothing.

Now go to bed, get mommy to tuck you in, and get some rest for skool tomorrow.

The number of BD titles exceeds HD-DVD titles starting Monday.. its all BD from there on. HD-DVD is dead.

Universal is supporting HD-DVD because they get to be the big player; ie. when you have 90% of the HD-DVD releases you stand to make a lot of money without a lot of effort... they get to make more money once they release those again in BD... see?

http://www.highdefdigest.com/

February 06, 2007

* American Psycho (Blu-ray)
* Failure to Launch (Blu-ray)
* Failure to Launch (HD DVD)
* First Blood (Blu-ray)
* Hollywoodland (HD DVD)
* Reservoir Dogs (Blu-ray)
* Running With Scissors (Blu-ray)
* The Tailor of Panama (Blu-ray)
* Young Guns (Blu-ray) JUST LISTED!

February 13, 2007

* Broken Arrow (Blu-ray)
* Chain Reaction (Blu-ray)
* Chronos (Blu-ray) JUST LISTED!
* The Departed (Blu-ray)
* The Departed (HD DVD)
* Entrapment (Blu-ray)
* Ladder 49 (Blu-ray)
* Marie Antoinette (Blu-ray)
* The Marine (Blu-ray)
* Phone Booth (Blu-ray)
* Planet of the Apes (Blu-ray)
* Reign of Fire (Blu-ray)
* The Sentinel (Blu-ray)
* The Usual Suspects (Blu-ray)

hate to bring something up but when was the last format that Sony made actually caught on, beta, mini disk, memory stick, umd Sony always wants to much royalties making the format more expensive than any thing else. they always shoot themselves in both feet

I wonder if hating Sony will still be fashionable in two years when they are once again winning the console war, and are winning this format war...

if you look at all the websites that are not paid/bribed to write reviews,
a the guy that has both most of the stuff i have seen is that Hd-dvd is better

i am not sure but the latest buzz i have been hearing is that there looking to make double side'd disc's blu-ray one side hd-dvd the other,

when u force the comsumer to make a choice 9 out of 10 times it back fires

dirtyone doesn't remember CD, PS1, PS2, DVD, 3.5 floppies, and can't see the future of blu-ray

"I wonder if arrogance (without any reasonable arguements to back a bold statement)will still be fashionable too??"

Blu-ray is already outselling HD-DVD. More corporations are backing it. As more and more people buy hdtv sets, more people will move onto the new formats. At this point, looking forward, the future looks bright for blu-ray.
PS3 has overtaken 360 in japan, very, very quickly. Microsoft never had a chance there. It's getting ready to launch into the pal territories where history has shown a great loyalty to the playstation franchise. Chances are, worldwide, it will be ahead of 360 in overall sales by the end of the year.
In two years, many more people will have hd sets. The prices will come down, and soon enough the idea of buying any standard definition set will become ludicrous if one is shopping for a new tv. Once more people adobt the technology, the prices on hd-dvd and blu-ray will come down. When/if one format comes out on top, the prices will drop further. Do you remember what DVD players and discs cost when they first came out? People had many of the same arguments then as we read now, but it was the vhs vs dvd format war. Before that was cd vs cassette. New formats don't launch as successes.
Based on what I see coming in the future, and how launches and systems have faired in the past, I think that in two years the playstation3 will be a success. Probably not the huge success of the ps2, but it will be around, and there will be great games coming out for it, and will have a larger user base than the 360. As for download services making both formats obsolete; they said the same thing about print when the internet started to take off. Guess what? People still like having a tangible for a lot of things. The main reason downloadable music has taken off is because the files are smaller. I'm not downloading a hi-def movie if I can buy/rent the disc. I have broadband, but it will still take a long time, and I don't want to have to choose what movies or games I keep on my HD and which I delete if I paid for them. I want a disc, and a booklet, and a little case with cover art to keep them in.

So many 360 arguments seem to all be based on right here, right now. Guess what. We won't always live in right now.

"dirtyone doesn't remember CD, PS1, PS2, DVD, 3.5 floppies, and can't see the future of blu-ray"

DVD is currently Toshiba's deal, not Sony's. They did take part in it (namely reducing the capacity in exchange for a stronger surface). Sony and related companies want to get away from DVD, so they are looking to get away from DVD as soon as possible. DVD BC could be in jeopardy in the future if BR takes off.

I'm unimpressed with Blu-ray. I've not seen HD-DVD up-close-and-personal, but I'm sure it will be just as lackluster. As a consumer that cares...I expected a lot more...for general consumers...I doubt they will think the difference is worth it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd

I agree that both sony and microsoft are getting dominated by nintendo at this point, but I do see the wii as having a somewhat limited lifespan. I only know three people who were able to get ahold of them before christmas, and only one of them is still actively playing with it. He's going through zelda for the 3rd or 4th time, and still absolutely loves it. The other two were part of the crowd everyone is making a big deal out of; the casual gamer. They bought it, really enjoyed it around the holidays, but say at this point that it's just lost some of that initial impact it had. It's possible that nintendo will pull it out, but I don't see the third party embracing the wii in the same manner as nintendo will. I'm not familiar with the DS game lineup, but most of the titles I do hear about being good are first party. I would be willing to bet the same will hold true of most other large releases for the Wii as well, unless it can prove itself as more than the quirky system. People are willing to throw down $250 on a toy these days.

As for the ps3 in Japan, the numbers are dissapointing, in comparison to the last playstation console. This is a different game right now, and sony has put a lot on the line, and is going for a long-term goal. If the PS3 numbers are dissapointing, what are the 360 numbers? No, it never stood a chance. Doesn't change the standings, or the way that developers looking at the two systems will view them. Again, it will depend on just what the Wii ends up bringing to the table. It's doing great right now, but we have to see the long-term.

As for blu-ray... pretty much every point being brought up against the format could be also be applied to hd-dvd. I agree, the average person watching a hd movie versus a dvd won't see the difference on their standard tv, or edtv. That's because the difference isn't that noticable on those levels of display. I don't notice the usual compression and artifacts I was used to with dvd, but even on my plasma that doesn't display full 1080p I can't say I see an enourmous difference in overall detail. But, I prefer it now for sound, color and knowing that eventually I'll have a 1080p capable set. Any movie coming out on both standard and blu-ray will have two factors for me to consider; price, and content. If it's a movie I really enjoy, I'll pay for it on blu-ray. If the difference in price is around 5-10 bucks, I'll probably get it on blu-ray. And don't argue the suggested retail of usually $30-40 for them, since that's not what they are actually selling for. I picked up Superman Returns for less that $15 just last week.
The fact is, more people are buying into the technology all the time, at more of them seem to buying into blu-ray according to the sales numbers.
More manufacterers are backing it, more studios back it, and it has higher storage capacity. I look forward to having Adobe Creative Suite on one disc rather than 5 someday. Hell, I look forward to backing up my music collection on discs since it would take roughly 50 dvds right now. I know that's a point in the future, but I honestly view bluray as the format that will be there.

In the end of this too long rant, I agree with a lot of points you are making. All any of us are doing at this point is arguing what we see as the way everything will go, so it's not like there is a right or wrong at this point. And of course, owning a ps3, I'm backing the format and the machine. Not because I feel that I have to defend my purchase or convince myself, but because I waited, read and thought about it, and decided that it was a fit for what I wanted out of a console. If blu-ray fails and the system does as well, of course I'll be upset. Of course, even if bluray doesn't catch on the games will still be made on that format. Look at the UMDs that you mentioned.
In the end though, I wouldn't have bought a PS3 if I honestly thought that had a strong chance of happening.

The real question here is which format will AOL distribute their coasters on?

i found this vid from cnet very informative and it gives a balance veiwpoint from both sides.

http://www.cnettv.com/9711-1_53-7499.html?tag=bubbl_2