Capcom talks M-rated games on the Wii

by Ross Miller { Feb 12th 2007 at 11:17PM }

One evolution with the Wii has been the decline in the media and gaming culture calling a Nintendo console kid-centric. Christian Svenssen, Capcom's Senior Director of Strategic Planning & Research, caused some rumblings when he referenced the kiddie image in a forum post on the Capcom forums.

The controversial quote: "If there is a 'core player base' on Wii (and it's [sic] might be so broad, there might be no such thing as 'core'), within two years, it will probably be largely a younger player (or at least younger than 360 or PS3)." Despite the best efforts of the Nintendo Defense Force, we're inclined to agree that, by merit of taking a family-focused approach to marketing, children will likely be given this as a first console or as a system that parents feel they can enjoy with their offspring.

However, Svenssen is quick to remind forum readers that, in announcing their strive for a broad focus, mature does not equate to broadly appealing, which in turn is not necessarily "kiddie." On the fourth page of the thread, Svensson notes that Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles may not be the only M-rated title to be released on the Wii from Capcom ("One never knows what our teams in Japan will cook up down the road," he remarks), but that the likelihood is dependent upon the success of other M-rated titles on the console. Some M-rated titles we know coming up include Manhunt 2 and Suda 51's No More Heroes.

Svensson also made other points of interest, noting that Capcom's strategy is to wait sometime after a console launches before releasing a game (e.g. Dead Rising wasn't released until nine month's after Xbox 360's launch). Svensson acknowledges that the M-rated Resident Evil 4 sold extremely well on the GameCube, even though he predicts the console's primary demographic between the ages of six and 10.

Oh yeah, and that persistent little canary that screams Okami on the Wii? "I too think it would be great (both from a gameplay and a fit on the platform)," he said, "but unfortunately, we've got no news on that front. I just wanted to at least let people know we're certainly aware of the demand."

[Via WiiDS.co.uk]

Tags: capcom, nintendo, resident evil, ResidentEvil, wii

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)

Optimus Prime @ Feb 12th 2007 11:32PM

I had a blast playing Zelda when i was younger (i've played all the console Zeldas). But, Zelda TP will be my last one. It just doesnt appeal to me any more; i dont want to go around saving stupid monkeys or biting ghost bugs.. thats lame. And that chicken catching game and Link not talking is old.

Now, I want to play God of War 2 so i can kick demon puppies, rip the wings off giant eagles, and pull the eye out of the eye sockets of cyclopes.

Anyways... God of War 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zelda TP

tehArtist @ Feb 12th 2007 11:43PM

I have hated Nintendo since the N64. The only thing that made the N64 'decent' was the fact of the mario and zelda franchise, I never bought the N64 nor the GameCube. I haven't purchased a Nintendo Console since the SNES. I haven't purchased a hand held Nintendo product since the original game boy.

However, the Wii has brought back much of that childhood nostalgia. I will say confidently that as a student studying CS with Game Development in mind, my focus is going to be on the Wii. This console has soo much potential. The problem is, no developers are yet taking advantage of it.

IMHO, Zelda:TP actually gave new life to the franchise, because lets face it, the franchise hasn't done much since LTTP. I mean OOT was good, but Link to the Past was much better.

With the failure of Mario Sunshine, I've very interested to see Mario Galaxies.

As far as CapCom is concerned, I have always enjoyed their games. Although the RE series has been run into the ground.

adam @ Feb 12th 2007 11:41PM

Considering God of War 2 hasn't been released yet, I really don't know how you can say it is better than Twilight Princess.
Saying an unreleased game is better than another game, screams fanboy.

Pedro @ Feb 12th 2007 11:42PM

Lol @ optimus prime. The biggest sony fanboy on the site gives an opinino no one cares about.

It is obvious that the wii will have the biggest child audience. Ain't no parent buying a ps3 for their kid (ain't no parent buying a ps3 period.). But the wii also will have a respectable hardcore audience. That's why games like Zelda and Red steel sold so well. In fact, T rated games outsold all other rated games put together.

The key is balance. You need some casual and family style games to appea to the casuals, and some hardcore games to appeal to the main gamers. So for every wii sports there should also be a zelda. That ensures that nintendo's target audience of everyone gets what they want.

It works much better than sony's strategy of sloppy 360 ports and crappy liscenced games. We've seen what that kindof lineup does to a gamer's psyche.

Tim @ Feb 12th 2007 11:51PM

I'm all for M rated games. They're generally more appealing. That's all there is to it really.

Sure you could go over to a buddy's and everyone hangs out and plays Elebits. Or... you could be smashing thousands of zombies in Dead Rising. Pretty obvious choice here.

Pedro @ Feb 13th 2007 12:00AM

And tell me, oh fanboy, which is more embarassing, having a launch lineup consisting mainly of last gen ports....or your console getting its ass handed to it by a console whose launch lineup consist largely of last gen ports?

And I'm fine with the zelda games. Unlike god of war, they require acual thought, and don't need to rely on tits to sell themselves. Perhaps God of war shouldtry that. Using actual gameplay to sell itself...oh wiat, then it would sell all of two copies.

bmac @ Feb 13th 2007 12:03AM

How did other M-rated games sell on the gamecube? What other M titles even came out on it? I know Killer 7 was released for the GC, and that is a game that earned it's rating in so many, many ways. It was bizarre and didn't really catch on with consumers, but damn...
This is just one of the many, many things the Wii will have to overcome if it wants to stick around. It's going to have to show some true depth that goes beyond swinging your arms around and giggling like an idiot with your friends. As much fun as that is.

Max @ Feb 13th 2007 12:19AM

CAPCOM VS SNK

DMD @ Feb 13th 2007 12:10AM

@Optimus:

Are you the kid from those "psp vs ds" videos circulating youtube awhile back?

You definitely make some good points, like him...

Shmil @ Feb 13th 2007 12:10AM

while i think optimus prime is a blatant fanboy who can't have fun playing games that are rated less than M because its not "cool" an M rated Zelda could be pretty cool, serious blood'n'guts gushing out of things you cut, rather than sparks'n'shit

Ken Seang @ Feb 13th 2007 12:15AM

"If you build it, [they] will come"

Im just saying if Capcom just make those mature games people will buy them if it is good.

Also, wouldn't it be cool if the main character from God of War was in Smash Brothers then people can determined who is better, Link or Kratos...

Ofcourse that wont happen, but one can imagine how...

Ritz @ Feb 13th 2007 12:16AM

Seriously. Both Zelda and God of War are excellent titles. Going all fanboy on each other is stupid.

NintendoFanbot @ Feb 13th 2007 12:23AM

GameCube also had Resident Evil 4.

Too bad Capcom had to ruin sales potential by announcing a PS2 version MONTHS before the GC version.

Shame on you, Capcom.

*shakes head*

vidGuy @ Feb 13th 2007 12:24AM

The average age of Wii owners I know is over 20. I'm sure that's not typical, but with the Wii gathering in a wider demographic than the GC, the average age of Wii gamers is going to be older than it was for GC gamers.

I don't care what it's rated, a Resident Evil similar to RE4 using the remote would sell millions. Capcom should try releasing a T or M rated Wii exclusive; if it was half decent I'm sure it would sell well.

I'd like to hear what Svenssen has to say about the Wii in a year or so if it claims the number one spot. It'd be hard to stick to the "it's for kids" argument if it has a multi-million unit lead over the "hardcore" consoles.

reppy @ Feb 13th 2007 12:25AM

I'm just sick and tired of the whole "violence = mature" mantra. Since when does that mean "mature"? I always thought "mature" was like, you were responsible and rational. Why don't they start referring to them as "graphic titles" instead of "mature titles"?

Evan @ Feb 13th 2007 12:31AM

"If there is a 'core player base' on Wii (and it's [sic] might be so broad, there might be no such thing as 'core'), within two years, it will probably be largely a younger player (or at least younger than 360 or PS3)."

I expect the Wii will have two "core player bases" at opposite ends of the age spectrum (kids and adults), but won't do well with image-conscious young-teens who choose games based on how "cool" they are, and play violent games as a means of asserting their maturity.

Anecdotal evidence: Among my 25-35 year old co-workers, there is far more interest in the Wii than the 360 and PS3 (there are already twice as many Wii owners than 360 owners in my office!). For whatever reason, the people who play "The Sims" on their PCs are buying Wiis!!!

Reapz @ Feb 13th 2007 12:35AM

Right, Bmac, #7, you must have no idea.

Off the top of my head, we had Resident Evil Zero, 1 and 4, Eternal Darkness (Best story/voice acting ever), Geist, Blood Omen 2 (Hey I'm not saying its the best game, but it's M-rated), Mortal Kombat, Streets of L.A, etc etc.

Sure there might be heaps more on the PS2 or Xbox for that generation, but M-Rated games won't make you more attractive.

vidGuy @ Feb 13th 2007 12:37AM

I agree, reppy. It's unfortunate that the money's in violent "mature" games because that's what sells to gamers like Optimus Prime (I'm still not sure Prime isn't here for pure sarcasm/comic relief), and of course developers go where the money is. Personally, I find a deep story like those of Final Fantasy and even Zelda:TP (hell, probably even Zelda:WW) more engrossing and "mature" than the average gore fest.

But, hey, Gone with the Wind is rated G while Doom is rated R. Real "mature" gamers know it's not all about violence and gore. Of course, that doesn't stop us from enjoy those games, too. We just tend to judge games on their content, not their ratings.

Reapz @ Feb 13th 2007 12:39AM

Reppy, you're right.

I'm sick of it too, the idea that mature means you blow the shit out of zombies in old hospitals or something.

I'm 21, I moved out of home when I was 19 and I thought I was mature then. Move out of home and you'll understand what being mature is - standing on your own two feet with no one to bring home the bread but yourself. When you can hear the word "Penis" or "Vagina" without laughing, that's mature. Carry on a conversation with someone twice your age and be completely relaxed about it... that's what being mature is.

Sitting at home shooting demons with your chain-gun and shrieking "PWNED HAHAHA" is not mature, that's Xbox Live.

Evan @ Feb 13th 2007 12:44AM

reppy - I hear you. Let me copy my rant from an earlier thread... compare the following games:

Game A: A young child witnesses his parents being murdered in front of him as he hides in a closet. As an adult, he vows to seek out his parents' murderers for revenge and to restore his family's honor.

Game B: A cyborg defends a space colony from an alien attack.

Game A is Sly Cooper - a "kiddie" game! Game B is "Halo" - a "mature" game. The so-called "kiddie" game has more emotion and a more mature story than the so-called "mature" game! But Halo has explosions, and that makes it "mature"?

Rubang B @ Feb 13th 2007 12:45AM

From the ESRB's web site:

Teen: Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

Mature: Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

So all an M rating guarantees is that the violence, blood, and language may be MORE INTENSE and EXTREME!!! YES! You folks who prefer M-rated games need to chill out and drink some Mountain Dew.

The M rating has nothing to do with fun engaging gameplay. If all it takes for you to have more fun is more intense violence, blood, and language and some sexual content, go watch a snuff film or shoot up your junior high.

Also, I think comparing Elebits to Dead Rising is a little awkward, since Elebits is (very effectively) showcasing a new control scheme and is an original IP, whereas Dead Rising is (vastly) improving on an age-old genre, but plot-wise it's just Dawn of the Dead.

dukemeiser @ Feb 13th 2007 12:48AM

GameCube did have some M-rated games, but it got skipped by the most important franchise: GTA. If only Rockstar would bring GTA4 to the Wii, then it would finally be an even race for the next-gen consoles.

Reapz @ Feb 13th 2007 12:55AM

#21, Warren, you're also right.

I used to think, "Oh sweet, guys are coming over, I'll pop in RE4 and have a game and we can blow freaks heads off". I'll tell you what, after handing the control around everyone was bored after the novelty wore off.

Once a week at least my mates come around for beers and Wii bowling. I have a more fun "Mature" experience playing Wii bowling than blowing the anal-snot out of Zombies.

theLoneYoshi @ Feb 13th 2007 1:14AM

@ reppy, #15

I'm one of the few who highly agree with you, but you're logic is slightly a bit off...

The reason that an overly violent video game with some sexual themes is rated "M" for mature is because kids are not supposed to see that stuff... or, at least, parents don't want kids seeing that stuff (I know I wouldn't want my kids playing graphically violent video games or graphically sexual video games).

Mature content is meant for a mature audience. Though, it certainly doesn't guarantee that the person playing it is "mature"...

I mean, certainly... Brain Age is meant for the mature audience (people 20 or over based off of the age rating system), but it gets an E rating because it's not something that is inappropriate for children.

Shagittarius @ Feb 13th 2007 1:28AM

I'm not claiming I know anything but with what we know about Nintendos 'Tupperwear Party' style of marketing for the Wii so far, would anybody be surprised to find out that: Reapz, Warren Fame, Evan, and Vidguy are all part of Nintendos guerilla marketing if not exactly the same person?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Mcjiggy00 @ Feb 13th 2007 1:41AM

If the developers make M rated games, they'll probably be bought. If they don't make M rated games then the numbers for them will be skewed. Capcom should take a little more initiative rather than stand back and watch missed oppertunities go bye. Then again it's a business, so I see the point in waiting and watching.

Yar @ Feb 13th 2007 1:56AM

That means we'll see more same old Megaman games for the Wii. Oh joy.

I had alot more fun with "family friendly" games then M rated games.

fawazr @ Feb 13th 2007 2:11AM

this industry is run by chimps who pander to retarded chimps. I gotta find a new hobby that actually manages to be rewarding.

Nino @ Feb 13th 2007 2:15AM

@26: O HI Shagi.

I agree with everything said by those people too, so I guess I'm working for Nintendo now. SWEET! Maybe they can hook me up with some free stuff.

"Mature" games have their place. Sure, God of War is pretty awesome, but my ten year old brother could play it. Same with Halo.

What he would not be able to play though would be something deep and meaningful like Chrono Trigger, Fire Emblem, or even Zelda (he has no interest, the dungeon puzzles confuse him). And I've had much more fun playing something like Guitar Hero and Wii Sports than even God of War.

I never understood the need to make gaming "cool." You know what else is popular right now? Fergi. Fergalicious!

Reapz @ Feb 13th 2007 2:29AM

Shagittarius, Unless they are 21 and live in Gosford, Australia, we are separate people

Dave @ Feb 13th 2007 2:54AM

What? What's all this noise?

If I give you my copy of Gears of War, will you be quiet and let me continue playing Viva Pinata in peace?

Tao68 @ Feb 13th 2007 2:55AM

Bullshit: most of the adults out there don't care about video games AT ALL... and what could change their mind? Gears of Wars, Resistance, or Wii Sports?

So, Wii Sports is in fact "mature", while most of the bloody-ultra-violent games are for young gore-fans, a very small population, in fact...

I hope Capcom will bring us excellent games on Wii, that's all that matters: it may be Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil or Lost Planet, or even "kiddie" stuff, i don't mind, if the games are really excellent, i buy, otherwise, give me a break...

Finalboss @ Feb 13th 2007 2:57AM

"Svensson acknowledges that the M-rated Resident Evil 4 sold extremely well on the GameCube, even though he predicts the console's primary demographic between the ages of six and 10."

SIX AND TEN?! That's even lower than Nintendo Power's target audience!!

syco @ Feb 13th 2007 3:28AM

Optimus Prime, I don't know what to say except I'm sorry that you have developed bad tastes in games since you got older. Zelda is Zelda because Link doesn't talk. If there is ever any voice acting in Zelda, ESPECIALLY Link, I will just quit playing it. I don't play Zelda expecting Final Fantasy, I play it to play Zelda, which as a game is just as fun, if not more fun, than when I was a kid.

I would normally take this space to rip into GoW2, but since I've played neither game I won't, except to say that I was never interested in the title and the video I saw of GoW2 suggested that it was just Prince of Persia without the platforming, which would be a really terrible game.

If we want to talk about maturity, lets say that a mature game is a game that a child will not understand if they play it. If you put a child in front of God of War, they'll probably play it just fine... might be emotionally scarred in the end, but they won't have trouble paying attention I'm sure. You put a kid in front of Silent Hill, on the other hand, not only would it mess them up, they wouldn't even be able to understand what is going on because the game's plot is so philosophical and complicated and just weird that a child just isn't prepared to try to parse it. That's the real difference between a mature game and an immature game.

If all you want to do is live out messed up violent fantasies in the form of a video game then I guess you can play your God of Wars and your Grand Theft Autos. If you want to entertain yourself and get lost in an epic adventure, then Zelda is ten times the game of any M rated game.

Even Rez is E rated.

boot @ Feb 13th 2007 5:01AM

So even though Capcom is critizing the wii its still going to develop games for it? Im confused...anyone want to enlighten me?

Petey @ Feb 13th 2007 7:36AM

Optimus Prime, go back trolling to Spong where you came from, your erratic trolling there fits well the site, the ultimate Sony fanboy...

This Capcom guy should be fired right now, he predicts the console's primary demographic between the ages of six and 10... at this point, even Barbra Streisand has a better grasp of the videogame market than this dude!

Ross, you & James are well known for your Sony Fanboysm, I understand your sourness of pertaining to the SDF... but there's no such thing as the Nintendo Defence Force, I see where you are coming, trying to start a trend & stick that fanboy label to Nintendo fans too... ain't happening, not our fault if we all are grown up adults, with the lack of self-affirmation problems, unlike teen Sony fans, unsure of everything about themselves & in the need of M rated videogames to delude themselves that they are "mature"... I repeat, the Kiddie consoles are on MS & Sony side... just look at "teh kyddie" buying the DS in Japan lines... the rest is self-delusional propaganda vociferated in order to convince yourselves first & a couple of unsecure kids out in the web...

Martin @ Feb 16th 2007 8:07AM

Optimus sounds like some Sony person trying to sell the next big sony game coming out...

Though God of War is great, I don't see how it is better then Zelda... First of all, it is way too short. The first one i felt stupid for buying for 50 bucks... I finished it in a day.... I can't wait to play 2 but I will probably rent it knowing how short it is!!!

Slaziman @ Feb 13th 2007 8:13AM

Don't bash God of War, that game is very good, it's just very different from Zelda, but that doesn't mean it isn't fun.

Jake @ Feb 13th 2007 8:45AM

Is there irony in calling someone a fanboy then asking "btw, how's it feel that your console's launch had its ass served in a brown bag by a console with last get ports. In your face, beoch." or something to that effect?

Remember, talking about how much stuff your company sells makes you a fanboy, unless you are referencing that you think more good games will be made as a result of the fanbase.

brent @ Feb 13th 2007 8:57AM

so am i the only 22 year old male gamer who likes to play more than one kind of game?

i dont understand whats wrong with playing a game like elebits 1 day, and resident evil the next?

I enjoyed my gamecube more than the PS2 or even the xbox last generation simply because of the variety,

i guess i'm lucky that all the mature GC titles appealed to me, (things like Eternal Darkness, Res Evil 1 & 4, MGS: Twin Snakes, Killer 7, etc.)

do i hope that there will be more mature titles on the wii? hell yes ... but i will still be glad i have access to other types of games ...

thats the main reason i bought my Wii before i started saving for my future 360 (i'm praying for a price drop)

... because as good as the mature games will be on the 360, i also know that that is basically all it has to offer ... and there are days when blowing peoples heads off just isn't the kind of entertainment i'm looking for ...

is there something wrong with liking puzzle games, rpg's, plat formers, and party games?
does it hurt my manliness rating or something?

wait ... no it does not ...

(mature games i'm gona check out on the Wii - No More Heros, Res Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Manhunt2, and maybe Godfather: Blackhand if get get the controls right)

Todd @ Feb 13th 2007 9:36AM

Sadly, you can sum up the vast differences and overall feelings of the Wii and PS3 very simply.

1. The launch of the PS3 resulted in rape, shootings, muggings, and overall chaos.

2. The launch of the Wii went smoothly, nobody got hurt and nobody waited in line for days and days.

The PS3 launch was rated R while the launch of the Wii was rated, well, I'd go so far to say PG-13 at least.

forevervac @ Feb 13th 2007 11:26AM

Notice how all the Nintendo users are nerds? Without almost question, they come out of the WOODWORK to defend Nintendo. I knew this would happen the moment I saw the title of the article. Nintendo fans swallow anything and everything Nintendo feeds them. You had one dickhead dis God of War. God of fucking war!!!!! Then another guy actually slams resident evil 4, the same game that helped Nintendo's reputation out on the gamecube? (you didn't wanna say it hurt it, did you? It didn't hurt Nintendo, I know that.) Speaking of resident evil 4, how many MORE copies, do you think Nintendo would have sold if they had released that game on another console? Take your pick. Microsoft or Sony. Day and date as the gamecube version. Or, simply, if it had only come out for playstation or if it had only come out for xbox, how much do you think resident evil 4 would have sold for? Keep in mind that halo, both one and 2, especially 2, sold millions. Made more than movies. Those numebrs reflect the multiplayer aspect of Halo, so that factors in definitely, but how much mroe do you think RE4 would have sold on either one of those consoles? All of these Nintendo fans wanna insult Sony and Microsoft but they were number 1 and 2, respectively, in the console race last generation. Tell me, how is it, that Microsoft entered the race, and managed to take the number 2 crown from Nintendo, a company who's been around since the 80's? How is that possible? Last generation. You think people would be buying those damn "wiis" left and right if they were priced at 600 dollars? Be real now. I think it's total bullshit that people defend Nintendo outright as if they do no wrong and never did no wrong. Nintendo had NOTHING to offer me beside Resident Evil 4 and Metal Gear Solid. Guess what type of games I like to buy. Madden, MGS, and RE aren't exactly highly represented on that console, despite the resident evil fours and zeros and remakes. Something had to be wrong with those two games, the resident evil remake and zero, because capcom designed a completely new game from the ground up, and resurrected the franchise. One of the damn developers himself said the franchise got old and repetitive. Along comes 4, of course, to save the day. But the bottom line is, games like that were few and far between on the gamecube, and even 64 for that matter. The people whod efend Nintendo are always hyper-sensitive nerds. I always notice that, without fail, Nintendo fans will come out of the closet or woodwork, more than any other fans, to defend their system. Xbox fans or sony fans don't come out half as hard or nearly in support for their system like Nintendo fans do. Fuck Zelda. I don't comepletely agree with that guy sayin' that Link to the past was the last great zelda game, 'cause I think ocarina and majora could hold their own, especially majora being an alright game in its own right. But to act like Nintendo had never stumbled or done any wrong along the way is such blind bullshit it's not funny. I could name five games I'd rather play off the tope of my head (and yes, ALL rated M) right now than Zelda. I mentioned two of 'em. Three actually. God, Gear, Resident, Devil M.C., Ninja Gaiden, hopefully a Contra 3 and shattered soldier-worthy Contra follow-up, Lost Planet. I'm just namin' shit off the top of my head. Wii won't see NONE of these games. And fuck the wii version of Resident Evil. I'm not stupid to say I wouldn't play a RE in the vein of 4 with a remote, but on wii's grapics? Sigh. I got resident evil 4 if I want that. I've supported Nintendo since the late 80's, I can't carry 'em anymore. I've owned maybe 15 games apiece for their last two consoles. Out of those 15, only 5 I'd say I'd actually keep if a gun held to my head. Twin Snakes, Ikaruga, Wind Waker (aka cartoon ocarina)...lol, wow I can't name a third. Holy shit! Resident Evil 4, I forgot. My bad. I got 20 something games. Maybe 25 max, on the cube. And scratch wind waker, I'd only fuck with gear, 4, and ikaruga, and I RARELY play ikaruga. I rarely play any game now, but going forward, if I had to buy one system for one game, no way in fucking hell would it be Nintendo. Nintendo nerds, and nerds in general, dis Madden, but look at every fuckin' Zelda game since ocarina. They have an EA, Madden-like mentality in basically releasing/producing the same shit year in and year out and adding a slight touch or upgrade to it, and yet they say madden is only a roster upgrade. Cyber jocks my ass. Nintendo is guilty of the same shit. They been whorin' Zelda out before half of you mothafuckas was even born. Before Mario fell the fuck off it was all Mario. Now that sunshine offically put the nail in that coffin, it's been Zelda's dick and coattail they've been ridin' off of since Ocarina. Take Zelda away from Nintendo and what the fuck they got.

McTendo @ Feb 13th 2007 11:32AM

^^ No one is going to read that.

bmac @ Feb 13th 2007 11:53AM

@Reapz
No offense meant man, I honestly didn't know. Not making an argument of M=Mature and awesome, just me wondering how many titles released on the GC were mature titles. I'm willing to bet that most PS2/Xbox gamers don't have any idea either, since most everything I ever saw in stores or advertised were much lighter fare. Not meant as a slight on the GC at all, I grew up with Nintendo like most of us over 20 did, and still love playing Mario on my computer. I'm just looking at it from the standpoint of a lot of people who see Nintendo as the kid's game company, but at least I'm trying to find out what else they had/will have.

Wiggydee @ Feb 13th 2007 11:56AM

Am I the only one who thinks that anyone who buys a game for violence is immature, where as a person who doesn't judge a book by its cover is acting more grown up?

Evan @ Feb 13th 2007 1:10PM

@Wiggydee "Am I the only one who thinks that anyone who buys a game for violence is immature"

You are not the only one. Check out comments 18 to 22.

When I was a young teen, my favorite movies were Schwarzenegger action flicks. I remember feeling giddy because I was watching R-rated movies with blood and bad words. I honestly felt these movies were "mature"! But now, looking back, those movies seem cheesy and immature.

The problem with "mature" video games is, the majority are the equivalents of cheesy action flicks!

Anonymous Coward @ Feb 13th 2007 2:06PM

Assume that this Capcom dev is wrong and that the Nintendo Wii's primary demographic will not consist of primarily younger players. One still has to remember that Nintendo is marketing the Wii as a family oriented console; cheap, accessible, family-centric features. That developer's statement isn't unwarranted at all.

geostar @ Feb 13th 2007 2:40PM

I want variety on my gaming system. I don't see variety as just E and T rated games. Sometimes I want something more action packed and darker (like RE4, God of war, Ninja Gaiden, Gears of War, etc.). Mature games are not made for teens. They are for anyone who likes to explore some of the darker fantasies of this world or some of the sexual fantasies of this world. Remember, we are living in a time when something as natural as a Womens breast will make a game M-rated.

Having mature games on Nintendo Systems ultimately helps the system sell better. I don't see why any Nintendo fan should argue against M-rated games. You are shooting yourself in the foot. Fact: The most mainstream and highest selling game last gen was M-rated. If you want your little Nintendo console to do well and be for Everyone, then it must have m-rated games on it.