It's alive! GRAW 2 official site is up

Yeah, I'll just save my money. Great game and all, but after playing the demo I didn't see much difference from the original GRAW.

This will be a definite buy for me - I loved the atmosphere of the campaign (and the effect it had on my subwoofer), and the multiplayer clocked up many hours when I should have been sleeping.

I'm seriously hoping you can full-screen the visual feeds of other teammates on Live on - this would just blow me away.

GRAW 1.5 yawn... wake me when the real GRAW 2 arrives with a cover system worth using.

I agree with David... cover system sucks compared to Gears of War..

GR:AW was awesome.

Despite this fact I'm going to save my pennies.

I sense awesomerer games on the horizon.

...And I just don't care.

I want to get it the minute it comes at the shop!

I don't care if there is not much change, as long as there is a new story to play... I'm tired of playing the first one and the extra pack... so more of the same is always nice when you actually enjoy it :)

Vegas will be the Clancy game of choice for some time to come. Unlike GRAW, it has a working cover system. Plus, the persistent elite system keeps you going to level up your character. Of course, the camera digi-mask support doesn't hurt -- my character looks like me!

I have it pre-ordered Not much different from the first GRAW, but I sold that game right after the rip-off pack came out.
Now Ubi is pulling the same nonsense with Vegas - selling us relit maps and the MP game modes that should have been included with the original.

Based on the demo alone, the graphics weren't great and I thought the actual gameplay was awful...
But the actual series itself is bad. I hated the Crosscom, operating all those silly flying things and my experience of online was that it was extremely awful (worst online game 360 game I've played). The original game was also full of glitches, my save game went corrupt and the action in the campaign mode was intensely awful. I know other people have had completely different experiences with this game but I'm not going to touch GRAW2. I love shooters but no thanks for Ghost Recon. Come to think of it, even the original Ghost Recon games were bad... even worse.

I liked the original Graw....until I played Vegas. What a huge difference a multiplayer cover system makes. I find it hard to believe that the soldier of tomorrow won't hide behind walls or rocks or such when trying to capture a flag, or bunker or such. Silly silly silly. I don't understand how Ubisoft can maintain a full cover system in Vegas, and not pull it off in GRAW? No PEC? Ooooh, but I get a drone to fly overhead you say? Give me multiplayer cover, PEC and no more Hendrix cover songs and I will come back to you my beloved first 360 series. For now though, I'm going to leave the soldier of tomorrow who can't cover for the kickass soldier of today who can.

there not enough to say this is GRAW2 more like the GRAW ubi wanted to make for 360 lanuch, but couldnt becasue of time. The thing about this is the game is still using the Unreal3 engine, so it's not like this time around they are having to recreate everything, since the licesne for the unreal 3 engine is well over a million dollars ubi is getting there money's worth. but the problem is it means all we get is some stuff they already bulit, which new effects which they have now had the time to work on, IE the new explosions are much nicer, but does that justify a whole new game becasue of things you couldn't send throught in a update(new explosion filters for example) becasue the 360 doesnt have a HD standard. now with that said there isnt enough different about this game from the first to say hey this is GRAW 2. i mean give me a total different environment if your not going to change or improve the mechanics of the game. making the cross com full screen and adding a MULE isnt a improved mechanic more like a addon to exsiting stuff.


likewise, it will be GRAW2 when they use something like LucasARTs game engine, and we finaly get real interactive environments, and deformable terrian. or work enough with the unreal 3 to get the same level of environmental interaction. agian it will be GRAW 2 when i can cover behind a wall shoot said wall with grenade lanucher and then run thought the hole in the wall my grenade just made. when they get to this level of environmental interaction the game will be complete, its got the AI, its got the FX filters, the player models are great, you just need better simulation based animations and physics. give me that and ill give you a GRAW 2 stample of aproval.