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Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:47PM (Unverified) said

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"I think it would be sweet if MS just came out tomorrow (if they have anything) and just play the Halo3 Beta in front of everyone for like 4 hours."

This saddens me. Its very sad that a VERY MEDIOCRE game like Halo, has this god like status among the MS fanboys. Halo is a piece of crap game. Its only appeal is its online aspect.

Give me games like Zelda, Elebits, FF13, MGS, Mario, Metroid, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, God of War.

Halo....pfffftt!.. i really dont get why this game has blown up so big, the character design is boring, the use of art style and color are bland...Lost and Gears are much better games than Halo is and those games are the ones that should be the 'flagship' titles not halo.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:32PM (Unverified) said

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GamestationX: They have but themselves...AND REGGIE to blame for it! You don't claim you're going to have fireworks and then light off sparklers or pull champagne poppers.

Nice use of Megaton there, Regginator.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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That was a little disappointing. I wasn't expecting anything in terms of new games or major announcements (the Mii popularity thing sounds weak) but I was expecting more from Miyamoto. He's usually an excellent speaker with great stories to tell. Maybe the play by play didn't do it justice but it sounds like Miyamoto didn't really prepare.

Ah well, this is only the GDC.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:33PM (Unverified) said

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slightly disappointing. I was hoping for a more solid internet ideology/model. But oh well. Mii... beauty.... contests... should be popular.... i guess.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:34PM NintendoFanbot said

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"@182

Except they did talk about something new with the Mii popularity channel. What exactly were they allowed and not allowed to say? Have any links?"

They are not allowed to talk about anything that would create a drastic change in the stock price during the proceedings of the stock transaction. So small things like Mii channel add-ons aren't that limited to talk about.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:34PM (Unverified) said

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ok so did i miss some news somewhere were Nintendo was barred from giving info on anything they do?
i don't remember reading about some antitrust suit or some stock fraud or something.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:34PM (Unverified) said

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OhJustSomeRandomGuy -

Right, because when they ask if the Keynote will be good, Reggie is supposed to say "nah, I wouldn't watch it, it'll probably be boring."

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:38PM (Unverified) said

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@ Jack of No Trades

It's also a simple business practice that keeps the price of the hardware fair from a consumer standpoint.

I never had a Gamecube, so I could care less about the Wii being a "Gamecube 1.5", and with the Virtual Console I now have some of my favorite games of all time, perfectly emulated, all in one nice neat little package.

Hate the Wii or not, it's the perfect system for me, as well as countless others.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:39PM Vidikron said

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Can someone provide me a link about the stock deal? I've heard lots of people talk about it, but haven't actually seen any official news links.

Anyway, it's too bad that was going on during the GDC. It really tied Nintendo's hands. Sony had such a good showing and Nintendo couldn't do anything to counter it.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:41PM TRTX said

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"i don't remember reading about some antitrust suit or some stock fraud or something."

The details can be found at Joystiq amongst other places. The main story though is that Nintendo is involved in a stock deal right now.

One rule of the deal is they can't do anything to drastically change the value of the stock, which would include making a major annoucement about future content.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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The English language offers a very, very wide range of ways to express things.

For example, if I didn't want to say a conference would be boring, there are probably a billion other things I could say other than, "There will be fireworks."

Maybe you're implying that Reggie simply does not possess the command of the English language that I have. This is a fair point, as I AM pretty darn awesome.

However, even an average person on the street could at least rate things on a one to 5 scale, and would be able to realize that they shouldn't tell people something is going to be a 4 or 5 when you know it isn't.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:42PM Vidikron said

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@203

Or he could just be honest and say to not expect anything major due to the stock deal. Saying there might be a few fireworks is sort of misleading unless he counts the new Mii channel as fireworks.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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i was there it was so boring compared to phil harisson's keynote.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:18PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know, I liked the Keynote. It's true evangelism of the Nintendo philosophy. I think it's really intended for the game designers who are ready to hear it.

That said, the key note was lacking in announcements. Maybe their hands were tied. But in doing this, the message and philosophy delivered by this keynote is not diluted...

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 3:55PM sand0789 said

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bla bla bla bla Mario Galaxy out this year with vids bla bla bla bla. So, I'm getting a Wii before 08'. Yay me.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:00PM (Unverified) said

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NintendoFanbot:

What's the point of linking and showing us that Nintendo's speaking out of both sides of their mouth?

On one hand: Gag Order
On the other: I promise fireworks!

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:12PM (Unverified) said

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"He didnt say anything, Why ya kissin his ass!"
- Mona Dearly

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:15PM Mr Khan said

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Pretty much what i expected...

Even IF Nintendo wasn't under such stock obligations (Japanese government picked a bad time to sell their 1% of Nintendo's outstanding shares)

Remember, this is MIYAMATO, who is actually a developer, as opposed to Harrison, who (i think) WAS a developer, but is now an executive

If Nintendo had had Reggie or Iwata speak, then i would've expected something

Also, for those who think that Nintendo won't release 3 blockbuster games in the same Q3/Q4, they've done it before (2002)

That year saw Super Mario Sunshine (Aug), StarFox Adventures (Oct), and Metroid Prime (Nov)

Its no stretch for them to do it again in 07

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:20PM (Unverified) said

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@T

Its belittling b/c you are sitting back trying to make my smart ass comment seem "wrong" and make yourself look "big" in the process. Therefor it is belittling. Also I don't really remember Miyamotos games being Sad so I think him using the word happy and using his games as an example reflects the idea of emotion. Besides it clearly say (for the obvious retards) and I quote "11:45 a.m. Positive emotions like these are necessary to expand the gaming audience and lure in people who are scared of traditional games.". So when the hell do positive emotions equal negative ones? They don't. My point was they should focus on all emotions, not just the happy ones. And then you ran you'r mouth but obviously didn't read anything. I was saying I don't agree. And I never said I'm just joking. You want me to say that. You want to use anything you can to try and make yourself feel smart or look big (thus belittling someone). I think you have a serious inferiority complex. Read... then write. If he was saying all emotions then he wouldn't have said the above line.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:22PM (Unverified) said

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Rather doesn't reflect the idea of just emotion. Excuse me I didn't add the word doesn't. Must make me stupid.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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Hahaha
O god this is awfuls. Let me clear this up for more then half of you. Maybe someone else did before me, but I dont have time to read the same whining over and over again.

This is a DEVELOPER CONGRES. Aspiring devs go to this event to learn about the knicks in developing other then the 'code' part (which is fairly small, analysis is more important and takes more time).
Bigger developers share ideas. Why is phil harrison there? Because he has intrest in fellow developers.

This is NOT a show where you ought to show of your newest products. You try to give others a vision of what you as company/as dev are trying to do. In the hope of educating or getting feedback on that.

What was koji kondo's keynote about? The things that concern video game music. He pointed out the factors that are important in his eyes. He did this in order to HELP aspiring developers.

Please, this is not an e3, dont treat it as one.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:38PM SSUK said

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Mario 128 was pikmin? That's lame. =/

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:55PM (Unverified) said

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He didn't say that Mario 128 became Pikmin. Mario 128 got scrapped, and elements of it were implemented in Pikmin and other elements of it are being implemented in Mario Galaxy. It happened before with Star Fox 2 for SNES getting scrapped and half of it becoming Star Fox 64, everybody's favorite.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:56PM Crono141 said

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The keynote is a much better read off of DS fanboy's play by play. Makes alot more sense.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 4:58PM (Unverified) said

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I liked Miyamoto's keynote, but I thought Kondo's was even more interesting. I hadn't noticed the random phrase changes in the Ocarina overworld to make it stay fresh, but that's the whole point I guess. If I'd noticed the music it would be taking me out of the game. I had the noticed the goombas and such dancing to the music throughout New SMB and that was awesome.

It was also interesting to see how now that E3 is gone, Sony's going to treat the GCC as their new avenue for big press releases. What the hell did all those new PS3 announcements have to do with developers? It was like "Hey developers, look what we're releasing next fall, neat eh?"

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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Balls to reading play by plays. Here's the whole thing on video already.

http://www.visualwebcaster.com/Nintendo/38232/event.html

Posted: Mar 11th 2007 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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I am going to have to agree with J. Miyamoto-san did say that he wanted gamers to smile while playing games. Don't put words in his mouth. Miyamoto-san said "happy", the blogger described the reaction that Miyamoto-san "always want[s]" as "delight." Miyamoto goes on to say, "Positive emotions like these are necessary to expand the gaming audience and lure in people who are scared of traditional games." I have to disagree with his measure of a successful game.

Positive emotions are only a small part of the human experience, in general, and in playing games. Many of my "best" gaming moments have been accompanied by feelings (and corresponding facial expressions) of awe, anxiety, shock, exultation, frustration (in the face of challenge), intense focus and glee. There is more than smiling going on here. Positive EXPERIENCES can come of emotions that are not positive, most certainly not exclusively positive.

For a moment, compare a game to a movie, a book, or any kind of story-telling medium. Should all movies, books or stories be comedies? Should we always smile? Should there never be any tension, any climax, before the happy resolution? Miyamoto's game-to-movie adaptation would be something like a litter of puppies romping in a meadow while butterflies flit about the scene. No conflict, and hence, no resolution.

J's FFVII example was well suited to his point. The game has hundreds of thousands of fans, and a story that drove a few to tears, not smiles.

For a gamer to smile while playing a game, and not frown, or remain straight-faced, the gameplay must be shallow, without challenge, and plot with without substance. Challenge leads to the intense looks that accompany concentration. Plot variances may lead us to anger, sadness, or awe.

Now, to step outside of video games for a minute, take a look at games and whether they make us smile. Many simple childrens games make them smile. Tag, kick-the-can, hide-and-go seek, Red Rover, etc. But those same games can make a child concentrate, exert himself, or experience other emotions beyond smile-inducing ones. What about adults? Ever watch a game of basketball, football (either variety) or tennis? The athletes may smile once and a while, but the emotions involved in gaming are too varied and complex for a smile to represent them all. And so it is with video games. I am certain that I smile at some point in most games that I play, but that is a poor measure, in my mind, of the success or even viability of a game.

But, Miyamoto-san wants us to be happy. He wants us to experience positive emotions. Actually, I misspeak. He doesn't want us to experience these emotions, he is referring to expanding the gamer circle by appealing to non-gamers. "Positive emotions like these are necessary to expand the gaming audience and lure in people who are scared of traditional games." He is not targeting us, the gamers. And as such, I am not interested in his console. I would much prefer a Half-life to a Wario Ware.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 5:59PM (Unverified) said

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"192. Nice Jackson, your blatant fanboyism couldn't be more proclaimed. If you had taken two seconds to read just about any post you would note that they were legally bound not to reveal anything. To expect any new announcements would be foolish. That would be the equivalent of me saying "Jump over that building" and you saying "but I can't" and me saying "well you suck then"" ----- Posted by Paul

Shows how much you know, idiot.
I own a Wii and a DS Lite, and none of the other current-gen competitor's systems. As a NINTENDO FANBOY I was profoundly disappointed with today's keynote address, which has done NOTHING do assuage my fears about the Wii's online system turning into another crippled failure like the DS Wi-Fi system, or to even just add something simple like a confirmation of a Wii keyboard or a gun shell for the Wiimote.

Just because I'm a Nintendo fan doesn't mean I can't criticise a crappy, lackluster keynote.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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People seem to be forgetting that GDC is a GAMES DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE>

Miyamoto's entire keynote was about GAMES DEVELOPMENT. Nobody seems to have told the Miyamoto that GAMES DEVELOPMENT actually means STOKE THE PRESSES in american speak. If I was a developer at that keynote, I would have stood up and said 'good man, you made this thing worth my time as a developer instead of just a fanboy.'

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 6:13PM hvnlysoldr said

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GDC wasn't created to lay out these bombs. It's supposed to be Game Developers Conference. As in Miyamoto is speaking to the Developers. Sony dropped a big bomb that is the PS3 Home, no doubt about that. Slight oomph had been lost with Kotaku's leak on Home and I wasn't as interested with what they had to say. Miyamoto was so much more inspiring and heartfelt. This isn't grabbing attention to their product but their philosophy of the new generation. In this way Miyamoto's keynote is better suited for GDC than Sony's.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 6:20PM NintendoFanbot said

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OhJustSomeRandomGuy:

Did you not read it? The gag order extends to Reggie, so if they had anything to say it was probably muted by their obligations. And I was only linking because Vidikron asked nicely.

Back off.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 8:36PM (Unverified) said

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NintendoFanbot:

Back off? My, aren't you a bit snippy?

Yes, I read it, and yeah, I saw that it applied to Reggie, Perrin, and possibly Miyamoto's keynote.

However, Reggie himself is the one that was suggesting fireworks would be present at the keynote. If only HE HADN'T HIMSELF PROMISED a more exciting keynote, then it would be a valid excuse.

Also, there's no reason they couldn't have talked about things that had been previously announced. They just couldn't ANNOUNCE anything new. (As evidenced by the new Mario Galaxy footage.) So why no Metroid Prime 3 footage, why no Super Smash Brothers footage?

There was no reason for Nintendo to put out this snorefest, especially not after hyping it up.

Posted: Mar 8th 2007 9:48PM NintendoFanbot said

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OhJustSomeRandomGuy:

DUDE, IT'S A SPEECH FOR HIS FELLOW DEVELOPERS. If Sony chose to show some projects at GDC, fine, because it makes GDC more interesting for gamers. But the show is about developers talking amongst their peers, not their gamer fans. You'll have to wait for TGS or MiniE3 or the other 'for gamer' shows that exist for that reason. Hell, Nintendo might have their own show once the business is taken care of. They're known to do that too.

Then there was the news about the stock transaction. I highly doubt that Reggie is above the law. People are familiar with and admire Miyamoto's work, and people in attendance (*cough*DEVELOPERS*cough*) would find some value in his speech.

I was helping Vidikron out. Why are you giving me crap?

Posted: Mar 9th 2007 12:57AM (Unverified) said

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I'm hoping Miyamoto/Nintendo pushes to get online gaming out there for the Wii, i know there was the promise of downloadable dungeons for Zelda:TP and im hoping that will happen soon. i have a feeling these next couple months are going to be promising for the Wii and nintendo.

Posted: Mar 9th 2007 1:01AM (Unverified) said

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do you think MP3 will be a good online shooter, i mean nintendo has relaly targeted this hole console on making it more 'non gamer friendly'. i know there are some games avalible for the more serious gamers, like zelda:TP and call of duty but do you think theyll make way for serious online gaming like the 360?

Posted: Mar 9th 2007 3:01AM (Unverified) said

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I give Nintendo total kudos for the Wii... I've played it a few times at friends houses, it's great for parties... But the only reason I wanted to purchase one was to play all of the old games; when I heard you had to buy them (I was under the impression that they were free), I just dug up some really good emulators for the Dreamcast to play the NES, SNES, and other console classics. My verdict: It's a party system, and a damn good one!

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