Armored Core 4: 360 vs PS3 comparison
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With this Tuesday's release of Armored Core 4 on both the Xbox 360 and PS3, GameTrailers decided to put together a visually informative graphics comparison video. After watching their comparison, one thing that is noticeably different between the 360 and PS3 versions is that the 360 version is much darker where as the PS3 version is more white washed. Sometimes the 360 version is way too dark, but sometimes the PS3 version looks like a snow storm ... it's a give and take. Though, we feel the two versions are nearly identical in some respect, we fully expect someone to pick apart each frame to see which version does better lighting, textures, and anti-aliasing. Watch the video above and tell us which version you think looks better. Don't worry, if you like the PS3 version better we won't ban you from our site ... yet.
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Reader Comments (51)
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 3:50PM (Unverified) said
360 wins based on colors, contrast, texture detail, and immersion factor...it's a bit too dark though.
The PS3 version looks washed out (like most PS3 games, the brightness is cranked for some reason).
Posted: Mar 22nd 2007 10:13PM (Unverified) said
The 360 version looks dark, but what resolutions were both games being played at?
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said
The only noticeable difference I could tell was that the 360 appeared to have higher texture detail. Regardless, I am stoked for this game!
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:22PM (Unverified) said
I don't know why, but the white light, on the back of the mech is really annoying to my eyes on the 360. Too much contrast maybe? The thing is, are these played with the same setting?
If the biggest difference is brightness and contrast, shouldn;t we, you know, even those out first for a fair comperison(and I mean using ingame settings of course) this is assuming there is that option. if not than yeah, I guess 360 wins this one.
I have a strong fealing that whenever there will be a 360 to ps3 comparison, the 360 would probably edge out by a bit. It is the exclusives we have to look at. Also, note to PS3 fanboys, you can;t compare later made ports(like oblivion) because the developers would most likely improve the textures and stuff(like oblivion) so that would be cheating.
If the biggest difference is brightness and contrast, shouldn;t we, you know, even those out first for a fair comperison(and I mean using ingame settings of course) this is assuming there is that option. if not than yeah, I guess 360 wins this one.
I have a strong fealing that whenever there will be a 360 to ps3 comparison, the 360 would probably edge out by a bit. It is the exclusives we have to look at. Also, note to PS3 fanboys, you can;t compare later made ports(like oblivion) because the developers would most likely improve the textures and stuff(like oblivion) so that would be cheating.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:18PM (Unverified) said
Eh, I'd say 360 looked better overall as well... not quite the knockout punch we saw in fight night 3 but still a bit better imo.
I don't think it was that great of a game for a good comparison anyways. The levels were very bland and the lighting was pretty simple etc..
I do enjoy these comparison vids though and I hope they continue to do them.
I don't think it was that great of a game for a good comparison anyways. The levels were very bland and the lighting was pretty simple etc..
I do enjoy these comparison vids though and I hope they continue to do them.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:26PM (Unverified) said
Well Josh L. I think this is a later made port for 360. I'm not 100%, but I'm pretty sure this is already out for PS3 in Japan.
And speaking of which, this same debates goes on over there as well. Check out these screen capture comparisons: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
And speaking of which, this same debates goes on over there as well. Check out these screen capture comparisons: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:30PM (Unverified) said
On one extreme, the 360 version is too dark, on the other extreme the PS3 version looks too grey. They're both pretty much identical.
But I definitely believe that the 360's graphics are much better so far. Good examples which shows this are Gears of War and Project Gotham Racing 3.
But I definitely believe that the 360's graphics are much better so far. Good examples which shows this are Gears of War and Project Gotham Racing 3.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:37PM (Unverified) said
The darkness in the 360 version is really bothering me. Unless that's adjustable, I would say the PS3 version is better. Anyway, I agree with Josh L. in that these comparisons don't really show which console has better looking games, since these games usually aren't given the specific effort for a certain console to truly use the power of a system to its full potential like exclusive games can.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:51PM (Unverified) said
All X360 games are too dark, I just turn up the brightness on my TV accordingly. Some need it more, some less, but I have yet to play one that hasn't needed some adjusting.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 4:56PM (Unverified) said
I don't think the graphics matter as much as the online service, which in that area the 360 blows away the PS3!
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:02PM Magic Whiskey said
Were these played on the same tv set? If so, the native contrast and brightness is visibly wierd. I prefer the 360 version simply because things don't seem as washed out as on the PS3 version. I'll brighten the settings if and when I actually play the game.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:04PM (Unverified) said
these tests are pointless unless your there watching it on the displays
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:13PM (Unverified) said
Besides the brightness issues mentioned in the article, I had a hard time telling a difference.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:49PM SimplePanda said
Most people find the PS3 too bright looking....
Except, of course, for people who have bothered to calibrate their displays...
I love when these 'head to head' tests are done but they don't mention if display calibration took place. I'm sure if they calibrated, there would be little difference.
Except, of course, for people who have bothered to calibrate their displays...
I love when these 'head to head' tests are done but they don't mention if display calibration took place. I'm sure if they calibrated, there would be little difference.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:20PM (Unverified) said
I agree with savvydoc. This isn't a good game to compare the 360 and PS3. How about Virtua Tennis?
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:43PM (Unverified) said
Like Matthew Mac, I too find a lot of 360 games too dark, especially when lighting is quite essential, in games such as the GRAW's, Splinter Cell... a few friends have also commented on the lack of brightness in PGR3, and how difficult it can be to see certain corners.
Maybe it's an HD thing.
Maybe it's an HD thing.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 5:50PM (Unverified) said
I wonder if it is because the 360 version is using component. My experience has always been that component uses higher contrast than VGA, at times a bit too much. I played the demo on my TV via VGA and it was NOT this dark.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:07PM Atsuidesu said
In darker areas of the game, it seems easier to play on the ps3, and with places with more lighting, textures look a lot noticeably nicer on the 360, you could always adjust your screen so things are lighter on the 360 and maybe when those are up, who knows. Hard to say.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:10PM Atsuidesu said
In this link
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:18PM (Unverified) said
I can tell you the key difference between them; it only costs £319 to play the Xbox 360 version whereas the PS3 version would set you back £465!* :-)
But seriously, there isn't anything to choose between them.
* Assuming £40 for the game and buying a new console that is.
But seriously, there isn't anything to choose between them.
* Assuming £40 for the game and buying a new console that is.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:31PM (Unverified) said
gamma is not enough difference, I am pretty sure this could be tweaked on each platform. Looks the same to me.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:33PM ShapeGSX said
"In this link
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better."
Sure, if you like aliasing and jaggies.
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better."
Sure, if you like aliasing and jaggies.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:43PM (Unverified) said
Shitty display for both. Either way the 360 needs to make up for that Chrome Hounds POS. Not exactly ground breaking stuff. With Gears being out for the 360, and Motorstorm for the PS3, game makers shouldn't even try until they can at least offer something comparable to those titles graphically. ANd this CAN'T be using the HDMI port, or even standard HD cables. Kinda crappy for both...keep it.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 6:47PM (Unverified) said
I think that I'm done wasting my time wondering "which one is better".
I've concluded that these two systems just each take a completly different route to travel to roughly the same destination.
Yeah, it's still kind of fun to compare and converse about it, but I think I'm done w/doin that.
Anyone else out there agree w/me?
I've concluded that these two systems just each take a completly different route to travel to roughly the same destination.
Yeah, it's still kind of fun to compare and converse about it, but I think I'm done w/doin that.
Anyone else out there agree w/me?
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 7:01PM (Unverified) said
LOL SKATING ROBOTS!!
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 7:08PM (Unverified) said
PS3 = OpenGL rendering, 360 = Dirext X rendering. That could lead to a difference. ???
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 7:12PM (Unverified) said
My judgment from the video and screens:
360 has AA, perhaps more effects (reflections, heat haze) and a better frame rate.
PS3 has better texture filtering.
360 has AA, perhaps more effects (reflections, heat haze) and a better frame rate.
PS3 has better texture filtering.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 7:38PM Samoth said
Setting my Xbox Fanboy feelings aside, I have to say I like how the PS3 version looks over the Xbox 360. If the Xbox version wasn't that dark, I would look at them closer. As it stands, PS3 looks easier on the eyes.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 8:24PM (Unverified) said
I think its the settings, more than a comparison of which is better. Do we know that the default visuals are the same for this game on both the 360 and the PS3?
I think that's the first question to be asked.
The second question is why does it matter?
I mean, sure, the PS3 visuals appear to be better at the end of the gameplay when they go inside, but outside there is no mistake that the 360 looked better.
Why would one look better than the other inside and/or outside unless there was an issue with the settings of the gamer versus the consoles and the monitor being used?
I don't know, or care.
---
Additional semi-relevant information, haha:
I am a 360 owner which is why I read this stuff. However, everyone who is intelligent enough to NOT be a fanboy knows that Blu-ray is better. What keeps us coming back?
Gameplay, and Xbox Live.
So, Sony fanboys, are you willing to admit that Xbox is superior in online functionality? If so, we might be willing to give you the graphics argument.
Unfortunately, a true gamer doesn't give half a dookie about graphics.
--
Even so, if Blu-ray does win this format war nothing is going to happen to the Xbox 360. When a Format War ends the losers adopt the superior technology and that is that.
End of Story.
Afterall, Sony lost the last major Format War (Beta vs. VHS) and when the victor (VHS) became clear Sony, the loser, immediately absorbed VHS into themselves.
I think the bottom line is this: Who cares?
Sony and Microsoft are going to be sticking around regardless of who has the best graphics, latest technologies, or best online functionality.
A true gamer usually owns all consoles, and a PC, for elite gaming.
Fanboyism is the true crime here.
Yeah, yeah...I know this had little to nothing to do with the main topic, I just get tired of reading through all the Fanboy garbage.
I think that's the first question to be asked.
The second question is why does it matter?
I mean, sure, the PS3 visuals appear to be better at the end of the gameplay when they go inside, but outside there is no mistake that the 360 looked better.
Why would one look better than the other inside and/or outside unless there was an issue with the settings of the gamer versus the consoles and the monitor being used?
I don't know, or care.
---
Additional semi-relevant information, haha:
I am a 360 owner which is why I read this stuff. However, everyone who is intelligent enough to NOT be a fanboy knows that Blu-ray is better. What keeps us coming back?
Gameplay, and Xbox Live.
So, Sony fanboys, are you willing to admit that Xbox is superior in online functionality? If so, we might be willing to give you the graphics argument.
Unfortunately, a true gamer doesn't give half a dookie about graphics.
--
Even so, if Blu-ray does win this format war nothing is going to happen to the Xbox 360. When a Format War ends the losers adopt the superior technology and that is that.
End of Story.
Afterall, Sony lost the last major Format War (Beta vs. VHS) and when the victor (VHS) became clear Sony, the loser, immediately absorbed VHS into themselves.
I think the bottom line is this: Who cares?
Sony and Microsoft are going to be sticking around regardless of who has the best graphics, latest technologies, or best online functionality.
A true gamer usually owns all consoles, and a PC, for elite gaming.
Fanboyism is the true crime here.
Yeah, yeah...I know this had little to nothing to do with the main topic, I just get tired of reading through all the Fanboy garbage.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 8:13PM aforty said
Either way, the game looks really boring.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 9:27PM TonyRockyHorror said
what concerns me more than the differences in brightness and contrast is the complete lack of ambiences and a "living world." i know that's partly planned in the setting of the game, but it still seems like just a bunch of huge empty spaces with some intense action in a tiny speck of that broad expanse of nothingness.
it's like two cheetahs fucking on the serengeti plain.
it's like two cheetahs fucking on the serengeti plain.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 9:06PM (Unverified) said
King Kong on the Xbox 360 was a game that had REALLY dark graphics--you needed to turn the Brightness up on your TV set to play it. Ubisoft said that game was a launch game that was rushed, though. Armored Core 4 doesn't really have that excuse. It is almost as if one of the versions was finished first, and they said, "Oh, adjustment the brightness or contrast level," but it was adjusted too much, in both versions.
You can turn the Brightness on your TV up without a problem, but the Contrast on your TV is something that cannot be turned down without affecting the other colors.
With that in mind, the Xbox 360 version of the game is better than the Playstation 3 version.
But, it is also worth nothing that Amored Core 4 sucks on both systems.
You can turn the Brightness on your TV up without a problem, but the Contrast on your TV is something that cannot be turned down without affecting the other colors.
With that in mind, the Xbox 360 version of the game is better than the Playstation 3 version.
But, it is also worth nothing that Amored Core 4 sucks on both systems.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 9:37PM (Unverified) said
Judging by this video, the Xbox 360 version looks much better, the PS3 looks too bright and the 360 looks better just based on that, but you can also see better detail on the 360 version.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 10:29PM Atsuidesu said
""In this link
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better."
Sure, if you like aliasing and jaggies."
I thought the xbox 360 looked better by looking in areas, but when I zoomed out my vision, PS3 seemed nicer. And no, I don't like jaggies.. and I said "seems" not "is" sheesh
http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/comparing-ac4-for-xbox-360-and-ps3-243722.php
ps3 seems to be better."
Sure, if you like aliasing and jaggies."
I thought the xbox 360 looked better by looking in areas, but when I zoomed out my vision, PS3 seemed nicer. And no, I don't like jaggies.. and I said "seems" not "is" sheesh
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 10:32PM (Unverified) said
^Agree
Yeah... Atsui, what are you talking about?
Maybe you should look again at the pics and compare the PINK CIRCLED parts. You'll see better lighting on the model... and look at the window of the building... the reflection seen on the 360 isn't there at all on the PS3.
Yeah... Atsui, what are you talking about?
Maybe you should look again at the pics and compare the PINK CIRCLED parts. You'll see better lighting on the model... and look at the window of the building... the reflection seen on the 360 isn't there at all on the PS3.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 11:12PM (Unverified) said
Dusty I agree. This 360 v. PS3 shit is old. (Much like the GSXR vs. R1 arguments in motorcycles...go GSXR) To be honest, you don't miss much if you own a PS3 in regards to online gameplay. I mean Live is better, but thats because of all the extra stuff you can do and the interface. I mean you can buy PS2 quality games and downlad trailers and shit from the PS network. At the end of the day I want to play online. Hell when I was hooked on Halo I liked XB Connect better than Live. At least I could get into a no radar game that wasn't MLG, and know what I'm getting into before it starts. If you don't know what XBC is then nevermind, if you do then you know what I'm talking about. The games are consistently better than Live, even though it isn't in a pretty package. I mean Live is good, but not good enough to make me forget how HD DVD is getting its ass kicked. As far as aliasing and jaggies, if it's that important then OK, but if its a shitty game anyway (as 70% of games on BOTH systems are), then why does it matter? I mean people are excited over this? This is a victory? They did the same thing for Def Jam Icon (shitty) and NBA Street Homecourt (shitty). If you want a victory, make a good game that lasts longer than 4.5 hours. If my aim was to make a video that makes either look better, I'm sure I could. They are both comparable systems. The PS3 costs more because of the Blu ray technology, which is worth the money in the long run. Thank goodness MS gives you an option on the HD DVD player. We'd all be pissed if the 360 costed $600 with that bullshit player.
At the end of the day, if you have know someone with a PS3 check it out. It really isn't that bad. If you have the money and like HD DVDs, the PS3 is a cheap option to get onboard w/ blu ray, and get some sick games going as well. As an owner of both, this shit doesn't make me rush out and buy a game on one or the other. Based on my home comparisons, its too close to call in most cases...
I guess the bottom line is this is stupid.
At the end of the day, if you have know someone with a PS3 check it out. It really isn't that bad. If you have the money and like HD DVDs, the PS3 is a cheap option to get onboard w/ blu ray, and get some sick games going as well. As an owner of both, this shit doesn't make me rush out and buy a game on one or the other. Based on my home comparisons, its too close to call in most cases...
I guess the bottom line is this is stupid.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 11:23PM (Unverified) said
Both have their positives, but I think the PS3 one would be easier to play since the lighting makes it much easier to see. The Xbox seems to have a problem in that 90% of the games are just too dark. Sometimes the darkness add to the realism, but in this game, it takes away from it IMO as even in direct sunlight, it appears too dark.
Having the choice, I'll buy the PS3 version of AC4.
Having the choice, I'll buy the PS3 version of AC4.
Posted: Mar 18th 2007 11:24PM (Unverified) said
Both have their positives, but I think the PS3 one would be easier to play since the lighting makes it much easier to see. The Xbox seems to have a problem in that 90% of the games are just too dark. Sometimes the darkness add to the realism, but in this game, it takes away from it IMO as even in direct sunlight, it appears too dark.
Having the choice, I'll buy the PS3 version of AC4.
Having the choice, I'll buy the PS3 version of AC4.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 12:53AM Atsuidesu said
I see what you mean savvydoc. Yes, you are so right. The 360 does seem to kick ass here based on reflections and jaggies. It's hard to tell in all areas, but in those aspects, the xbox wins in this battle.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 1:04AM (Unverified) said
I find it extreamly funny how the comments on the 360 fanboy site seem more civil than the comments on other blogs regaring the PS3.. As A PS3 fanboy I have to say that in doors PS3 is supperior, but out doors I was a little dissapointed. It seemed the 360 gave the outdoors a more alien atmosphere while the PS3s just looked plain.
Dont get me wrong, the graphics were very pretty but I'm undecided which I like better.. the lighting on the 360 bugs, but i could probably get over that, the overall look is better on the 360.. then again, I just perfer the whole interface and controller for the PS3..tough decisions on which to get..
but now i'm just rambling :p game on Xboxfans, game on
Dont get me wrong, the graphics were very pretty but I'm undecided which I like better.. the lighting on the 360 bugs, but i could probably get over that, the overall look is better on the 360.. then again, I just perfer the whole interface and controller for the PS3..tough decisions on which to get..
but now i'm just rambling :p game on Xboxfans, game on
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 4:33AM DeadPlasmaCell said
If the 360 versions gamma or brightness can be tweaked up, then I'd have to go with the 360 version.. the textures have more detail, IMO. This genre isn't my cup o' tea though so it doesn't matter to me in the end.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 6:24AM (Unverified) said
The quality comparison in this game is much closer than normal. There are some pluses and minuses for each version. Due to the fact that there is no clear victor in the area of graphics, the true factor that determines which version is vastly superior to the other is the way that the Xbox 360 version allows far more online features, as well as features allowing gamers to listen to any digital music they want while playing games, while the PS3 version forces gamers to listen to the music included in the game.
No doubt about it, the Xbox 360 version is superior when you consider all of those factors.
Usually, the Xbox 360 version of games are superior in all areas, though, including graphics. Even new games like F.E.A.R., which was released six months later on the PS3 still end up looking inferior to the Xbox 360 version.
No doubt about it, the Xbox 360 version is superior when you consider all of those factors.
Usually, the Xbox 360 version of games are superior in all areas, though, including graphics. Even new games like F.E.A.R., which was released six months later on the PS3 still end up looking inferior to the Xbox 360 version.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 6:49AM (Unverified) said
What is so difficult about capturing a video at the correct levels ffs, 360 games are not too dark if your set is calibrated correctly. The levels of both versions in this video are WAY off making comparison a waste of time.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 8:57AM mikeisgo said
Regarding the whole "lighter", "darker" thing, while it may be different between the ps3 and xbox, I think that also different for the same system on different HD tv's. Isn't that why most games have a gamma correction and or brightness contrast setting in the options? I know at least GOW and PGR3 and most games I've had on XBOX 360 have it.
So if you can adjust it, then they'd be pretty much equal in the end.
So if you can adjust it, then they'd be pretty much equal in the end.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 9:40AM (Unverified) said
This is a dumb article. How do you expect people to judge HD content from a crappy youtube feed? Pointless.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 11:57AM WesleyHester said
The video quality, as usual with this type of video clip, is poor to begin with.
Display settings and differences could be a factor. Is the video comparing component/VGA to HDMI with each set correctly?
The HDMI RGB output from the PS3 has a higher black level than the HDMI component output of Blu-ray (when set as such in the menu) movies. Is the display being used properly calibrated?
The Xbox 360's VGA output can appear darker on some displays until properly calibrated. Once calibrated, the VGA output can look as good or better than component.
On my display for example, I have to set the brightness at 25 for the PS3's output via HDMI RGB (games) and at 40 for the Xbox 360's output via VGA (games and HD-DVD). For Blu-ray on the PS3, I have to bump up the brightness to 40 since I have the Blu-ray video option in the PS3 menu set to YPbPr instead of RGB.
Display settings and differences could be a factor. Is the video comparing component/VGA to HDMI with each set correctly?
The HDMI RGB output from the PS3 has a higher black level than the HDMI component output of Blu-ray (when set as such in the menu) movies. Is the display being used properly calibrated?
The Xbox 360's VGA output can appear darker on some displays until properly calibrated. Once calibrated, the VGA output can look as good or better than component.
On my display for example, I have to set the brightness at 25 for the PS3's output via HDMI RGB (games) and at 40 for the Xbox 360's output via VGA (games and HD-DVD). For Blu-ray on the PS3, I have to bump up the brightness to 40 since I have the Blu-ray video option in the PS3 menu set to YPbPr instead of RGB.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 12:08PM (Unverified) said
The PS3 version looks way better than the 360 version. I have already played bought of them.
Posted: Mar 19th 2007 4:02PM gigadigit said
I was going to get the 360 version b/c it had voice chat. But after viewing this video, I think I may just be getting the PS3 one. The 360 one seems too dark and sometimes you can't even see anything.
Posted: Mar 20th 2007 12:18AM (Unverified) said
The thing is that _every_ release on both the PS3 and 360 is this way: PS3 is washed out, 360 is darker and has better color.
It was like this at launch, but I didn't think it would be this way in March.
It was like this at launch, but I didn't think it would be this way in March.
Posted: Mar 25th 2007 3:07AM (Unverified) said
I just bought the 360 version today and part where you drop down the vent shaft was nowhere near as dark when i played that mission. so maybe the contrast is off or the lighting angle was just wierd. anyway this game is awsome - footprints in sand, geomod technology in some places(destructive terain), and some nice garage upgrades(u can swap out main,leg,OB,and quick thrust bosters independently). and finaly up to 8 player online battles
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