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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:22PM (Unverified) said

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Whats FUD?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:26PM (Unverified) said

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Oh shi..! Quickly! Fill this topic with Anti-Sony messages!!

I'll start: P$3 is too expensive!! LAWL!! ENJOY YOUR BLU-RAY PLAYER!!!

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Sorry... But seriously that's a good feature.


Still don't want a PS3 though...

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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So fl0w is $7.99 while PSX games are what, 4 bucks?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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Disappointed with you Joystiq. Where are all the anti-PS3 posts? Get with it.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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You've been sounding awfully bitter as of late, sheppy.

Where's the love? :(

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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Too bad this should have existed from Day 1! You had months and months to learn from XBL you lazy asses.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:30PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, I got first post in this topic. Too bad it's my shadow... how you doing, shadow? Stil masqueraiding as me, I see.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:31PM (Unverified) said

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Well, good job Sony! You learned from your competitors and made sure you could at least match their feature exactly. And why not, MS finally (after a brutal wait) got their downloading in order...so just follow suit.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:31PM DBX00 said

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Jason

Just like Live will have years and years to marvel at HOME. I'm more interested in what's going to be in firmware 2.0 and the release date.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:31PM (Unverified) said

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Come on X-Boxers! Spin this to be negative. You guys are awesome at that.

Serious question: Once Home launches (which includes the "achievement" style system) what exactly does the $50 for Xbox Live Gold get you that the PS Network doesn't?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:36PM (Unverified) said

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@6 they were too busy working on background downloading that they forgot to secure their networks from hackers right? :P

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:36PM DrXym said

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Queueing != downloading so don't get your hopes up. Personally I really don't see the big deal either way. It's much better in 1.60 than it was in 1.50 and I'm sure Sony will improve and refine their firmware more as time goes on.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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dark, Fear Uncertainty and Doubt and sometimes F'ed Up Data.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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Why can't either console download while playin online? I do it all the time on the PC, as long as it doesn't throttle your connection you will be fine, even then its really hard to download enough that you can't do anything else online at the same time. there wont be bittorrent on the PS3 or Xbox anytime soon, and thats the only thing that ever eats up enough resources to even notice ingame.



Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:41PM (Unverified) said

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James

WHEN it launches, works well, AND it's free, then you'll have something to brag about. Currently, it hasn't, it doesn't, and you don't.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:43PM (Unverified) said

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I already marvel at Home, as in "who the heck wants to hang out in a virtual apartment and decorate it?"

My 10 yr old brother did this for hours with Habbo Hotel and I couldn't believe it. I'll be busy playing games with my 360, thanks.

And the Trophies? Again, no interest in loading up somebody's trophy room. How will this translate to cool statistical pages like top360tag.com ? At least that's kinda useful...

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:46PM (Unverified) said

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I already marvel at Home, as in "who the heck wants to hang out in a virtual apartment and decorate it?"

My 10 yr old brother did this for hours with Habbo Hotel and I couldn't believe it. I'll be busy playing games with my 360, thanks.

And the Trophies? Again, no interest in loading up somebody's trophy room. How will this translate to cool statistical pages like top360tag.com ? At least that's kinda useful...

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:47PM (Unverified) said

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nice, i am one of the fortunate "double posting" victims... why is this happening the past week or so Joystiq?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:47PM (Unverified) said

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James, it got us this stuff since 2005, and YOU and SONY the whole idea of achievements. what you think Sony would've come up with the idea themselves?

good feature, hopefully they'll totally catch up to live by the end of 2007.


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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:52PM (Unverified) said

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But if it wasn't for Xbox Live, I wouldn't know a new Modest Mouse album was dropping. I don't listen to the radio so play on stations means nothing to me.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:52PM chrisgrant said

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Just banned Sheppy's shadow permanently. He won't be back.

Jason: Not sure! The trolls are hard to contain! We're banning as fast as we can, so if you could alert us to when you spot an impersonator, we'll trace his comment history and ban if appropriate.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:54PM Crono141 said

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I'll think home is the shit when its a VR interface, not second life.

Second life is lame. I don't care if my virtual crib is awesome.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:58PM (Unverified) said

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Great feature for the PS3!

Too bad fanboys of "that other console" will spin this into a negative.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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funny thing is that modest mouse is signed to Sony BMG.but i guess thats what happens when the beast has too many heads

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:00PM erac3rx said

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@18: Sony did come up with the idea of achievements, it was implemented in various forms in Spyro and Star Ocean. This has been discussed before.

What bugs me is that Sony didn't make the queue handle up to 7 d/ls instead of matching 360's 6 precisely. It would have made these posts so much more exciting:

PS3FB: Oh you can only queue 6 items on your 3-shi**y? I can queue 7!

X360FB: Of course on PS3 there aren't even 6 things you would want to queue up, so it doesn't matter anyway.

etc. etc...

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:00PM (Unverified) said

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@20, Christopher

No man, sorry, I meant this problem of posts not appearing 1st time they are submitted, so I hit the back button and re-send the comment, and then they display twice... It seems to have surfaced only recently, AFAIK.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 8:14PM In A World said

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Welcome to Windows 95 functionality.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:05PM (Unverified) said

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achievements per game is a natural extension of an arcade Hi-Score; building it into the whole console platform, in every game from arcade (also pioneered by ms) and retail, that you can access in-game at anytime.

thats when people starting caring at all about them.


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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:10PM (Unverified) said

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Sweet. My PS3 needs as much "unsuck" as it can get. How about fixing that damned controller-disconnect bug? Mine still does it. How about component output that doesn't suck?

Keep working, Sony.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:14PM (Unverified) said

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Man, every single "bullet point" that the 360 fanboys had against PS3 has been proven wrong through time, like this thing about downloading while playing (and before, games costing more because they are on blu-ray, Sony will never surpass Xbox LIVE, Sony will never make innovative games, PS3 will cost $800, PS3s will break just like Xbox 360, games will come on BD-9, etcetera). I hate FUD.

And to the naysayers, Home is much better than LIVE because it has an interesting 3D interface, it is not game centric (but it does have a lot of games), it goes more in line with the "customization" microsoft always promised (and delivered with "faceplates" and proprietary HDDs and OS), you can use your own content and share it with others, way more social, and it's free of charge.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 7:14PM orionzdrm said

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As a PS3 and happy 360 owner I look forward to this add on. Come on people the PS3 is not as bad as some claim but it does not have the games of the 360 yet. I got my 360 day one and my PS3 day one too (as well as most other home consoles for the last decade and 1/2. Each system has its + and - but what it comes down to is games.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:16PM (Unverified) said

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Oh, and about gamerscore and trophies... I prefer to show unique virtual objects that display my gaming skills in an interesting way, rather than just a number in a non-interesting interface. It's nice that Xbox LIVE is relatively interactive, but it should be interesting too. I hope Home gives LIVE a run for its money so they make LIVE free.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:20PM (Unverified) said

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I wish bootsielon was sheppy's shadow. In other news, thank god for background downloading - even if it should have been there from the start.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:22PM sand0789 said

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Wow, like 10 comments saying "wait until xbots spin this into a negative" without a single post saying Sony's addition of background downloading is a bad thing. That's silly.

Sony's entire online strategy should be to try to make it as close to Live as possible. Once it pretty much the same, then they can think about putting their own touches on it.

As a 360 owner, I want Sony's service to catch up because it will probably save me $4 per month. As it stands, MS has an argument for why you have to pay for their service, it is vastly superior. If Sony had them matched, they would look like arse charging for something you can get free elsewhere.

*waits for someone to say, "but you can, Sony's network is the same and free!" To which I give a blank stare and feel pity for all the teachers that will have to spend extra time explaining everything to said individual.*

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:28PM (Unverified) said

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@ #8 James:

I think that this is great for the Playstation side of things. I remember when they fixed the 360 to do this it was a really cool feature.

As far as "how I justify" spending .14 cents a day for Live, let Daddy worry about that. Trust me there are still quite a few reasons but I'm not gonna name them here because you've heard them a thousand times anyway, lol.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:30PM Ordeith said

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Jake:

$3.08/month.

13 month Live Gold subscriptions can be easily found for $40 at most retailers.

Like this one here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874103030

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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"20. Just banned Sheppy's shadow permanently. He won't be back.

Jason: Not sure! The trolls are hard to contain! We're banning as fast as we can, so if you could alert us to when you spot an impersonator, we'll trace his comment history and ban if appropriate.

Posted at 3:52PM on Mar 21st 2007 by C. Grant"

Thank GOD!

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:33PM (Unverified) said

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I know $5/month is a lot to some of you... It would mean one less cheeseburger combo a month or something. In 2008, when Sony reaches 6 million online users (or whatever XBL is managing now), I hope things continue to run smoothly.

But don't you think the network costs are being passed down to the consumer somehow? What developer would find bearing the brunt of that responsibility on their dime attractive? Maybe they'll take a few shortcuts, or join the crowd and jump to Xbox 360 where there's money to be made. It's a market 3 times the size! MGS is coming, I feel it.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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Oh, and to all you idiots on both sides.

Have you ever noticed that on the
-Xbox 360 Dashboard-
-Games Blade-
to the left of the -Achievments Menu-

is a little symbol that is shaped exactly like a TROPHY? LoL

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:38PM sand0789 said

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Bootsie. Arguing with you is no different than arguing with a 6 year old or a mentally handicapped person. You are that out of touch with reality.

"Home is better than Live, and it's free" is the dumbest thing I've heard all week. They aren't even the same thing. Live is an all-encompassing online service for the Xbox brand that basically links together everything that your system can do.

Home is a neutered Second Life who's only link to gaming is that you interact only with PS3 owners and you put trophies in your apartment from games you play.

You are comparing apples to hamburgers here. Don't you understand that? Are you that out of touch?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:39PM (Unverified) said

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boots,
again, what's special about live is that it's *always available*, no matter what you doing, playing a game, watching a movie, whatever.

HOME isn't going to be like that, it will be a separate environment you load into. you can't just meet someone playing resistance hit a button and see everything about them, then go back to shooting aliens. that makes *all* the difference.


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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 11:25PM (Unverified) said

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If the download work even with ps1 and ps2 games then the feature would actually be BETTER then XBOX 360's. Since on my 360 the download are stoped when playing xbox1. Also there is word that the downloads will show the download speed in kbs! on PS3 something 360 doesnt do either.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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I like most other Xbox user defend Live on here, but it's pretty funny when that one time of the year comes back around and it's time to cough up $40-$50. Then I cuss MS until I get it fixed again and all is well, lol.

I'm all for Sony having a great online setup. MS even said themselves that they may consider making Live free or discounted if Sony gets their shit together and it's still free. That's a lot of money to give up that they're used to though.

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:48PM (Unverified) said

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@Digi Smalls

When you use all the features Xbox Live has to offer you could say it makes all the difference. For someone like me, who only pays the $50 a year to play games online and download demos, the PS3 network appears to be a nice addition. It comes down to the same useless argument PS3 fanboys make about the $600 console being worth it. "BUT I DONT NEED OR WANT THAT FUNCTIONALLITY"... Now if Xbox Live silver allowed you to play the games online.. that would be a whole nother story o.o

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:51PM Sloar said

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Is it just me, or does the picture of that game on the purchase screen remind you of a certain video you watched in 8th grade health class?

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 4:58PM (Unverified) said

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Aex, really? you don't start a chat with a friend who just came on playing another game? or want to give that racist peabrain bad feedback or put that 10 yr old on avoid instantly before you forget their name? compare progress on a game a friend is also playing (and where he is IN the game)? or see how long ago a friend was on and what he was playing?

sorry if that sounded like a shill, i'm just aware of what i think a lot of people take for granted. yes, *granted* because all the stuff above is FREE with Silver!



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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 7:52PM (Unverified) said

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"Come on X-Boxers! Spin this to be negative. You guys are awesome at that.

Serious question: Once Home launches (which includes the "achievement" style system) what exactly does the $50 for Xbox Live Gold get you that the PS Network doesn't?"

I can spin this negatively. Pretty much everything that has come out for the PS3 has been borrowed from other systems that its no longer funny.

The motion Controller was taken from Nintendo. Sony even said it was childish.

The point of having two systems was taken from MS. Sony said it was just to show how money hungry MS is.

The new @Home is nothing more then just Second Life. Since @home is going to be "free" at this moment in time that just means your going to have commercials and spam where ever you go. So far after a year on XBL with my 360 I have yet to get one spam message.

Trophies are nothing more then just achievements.

And what I get for my $50 a year of XBL Gold I get continues online game play with the servers never being closed ala Konami and EA sports did with the PS 2 games. Last I checked I can still play wacked on XBL even though no one else plays (mind you i do not play the game)

So tell me again what does your FREE online give you?

Oh and btw Housing ya they took that from MMO's which are pointless

Posted: Mar 21st 2007 5:01PM (Unverified) said

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sorry, obviously not the multiplayer stuff. my bad. but the friend stuff.


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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 5:02PM (Unverified) said

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sorry, obviously not the multiplayer stuff. my bad. but the friend stuff.


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Posted: Mar 21st 2007 5:04PM (Unverified) said

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PS3 is now slightly more up to par!
Celebrate!


Oh, and I'll miss you, Shadow Sheppy.
*sniff*

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