
Boyfriends aren't the only ones facing dilemmas. Publishers and developers have been struggling to develop games that appeal to women, because they represent a huge demographic who haven't traditionally been associated with the video game market, and that translates to lost dollars. But how do you begin to approach making a game for girls, or is it even a mistake to set out to do that from the beginning, rather than just making a game that's fun?
The panel first asked the question, "What constitutes a female gamer?" Jame Pinckard said, "Women aren't just this monolithic block of 'gamers', they all want different types of games. Just because a Barbie video is made for a 12 year old girl, doesn't mean a 26 year woman has to play it." Sheri Graner Ray took it a step further, adding "There is no definition of a female gamer, and trying to tack a label to them does a disservice. The female gamer is simply a female who plays games. She's just a diverse as any other market out there."
Then they broke down some of the numbers they have about female gamers. According to the numbers, 42% of all online gamers are women. At first, this number is fairly impressive ... however the panelists were quick to point out that "online gaming" consists of things like casual games (Super Text Twist, anyone?), and that female gamers are an extremely small portion of online gaming when it comes to consoles, which is 98% male. Still, even with that note, 42% of all online gaming is still a large number, and large numbers attract companies hunting for customers.
Market research firms take this information and use it to form focus groups for video games, where they try and figure out what type of game a female would want. Pinckard quips, "Has any great art really come out of a focus group or a committee? Have they made 'Jane Austen: The Game' for women?" Hopefully not, because the title alone puts us to sleep. But this illustrates a good point that has the development of games for girls in a bit of a vicious circle. The majority of game publishers and developers are male, and when they try to make games for female gamers, they use things like focus groups and research numbers. As a result, they usually miss the target and develop games for them that suck. Then the games don't sell, so the publishers say, "Well, women don't play games."
The panelists point out that the market data and research is important, because it allows them to open the door to the publishers, but too often they use it to tell them what game to make. Some market research has shown that girls like stories that are story-driven, or games where you have a specific, constructive goal like The Sims or Civilization. However, we've seen women who love to frag people in Halo 2, so it seems like the types of games that girls like ... are exactly the same kinds of games that guys like. Call us crazy.
They did all agree that in-game tutorials bring girls into the game a lot faster, because they like to be told how the game works, rather than just dropped into an environment and told to explore. However, this again applies to guys as well. That and the fact that everyone seems to hate reading game manuals. Pinckard points out that innovation is the key to reaching gamers of all kinds, "The Nintendo Wii is f-cking brilliant. Not because it's cutesy and for girls, but because it makes gaming fun for everyone, not just the hardcore console crowd."
So it seems like more of a problem in marketing than anything else. If games are appealing to both girls and guys, but mostly guys are buying them, then you need to market your games better. Don't develop a video game version of The Devil Wears Prada and then complain when it doesn't sell. Instead, just make fun games that anybody would want to play. Then make sure that they know about it. According to the panelists, "Please don't lock your game up in EB Games, girls don't like to go in there. And don't put a chain-mail bikini babe on the cover." So there goes the Chain-Mail Bikini Babes exclusive game we were developing in an exclusive agreement with EB Games. Dammit.













(Page 1) Reader Comments
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What in the world? Grow up.
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Obviously the games industry is caught in that vicious cycle of trying to use numbers to quantify the "mystery" of female gamers and then being astonished when the focus groups don't create great games. But I will concur that the solution is to make great games that appeal to gamers and then give a marketing push into female spaces (print, online, tv) to draw attention to the product. And say, "hey, this game is fun, come check it out," and not "this game is made just for girls" (which seems to pander and belittle the expanse of female experience and interests).
I mean, the Sims did it...who knows what game might be next?
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Started her off with a DS and Brain Age... Then slowly slid some Mario Kart DS in there. Now she's enjoying Elebits, and after that? I'm going for the kill.
Twilight Princess.
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Exactly. I remember reading an article (not sure if it was on Joystiq) about how guys in relationships treat their girlfriend/wife when playing video games together.
The girl writing the article said that it is never fun when all the guy does is complain about how they're playing. I took that advice to heart and zipped my lips when playing any game with my wife. Guess what? She plays a lot more, now.
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Tis true, most females wait for things to get cheaper. That's not just limited to video games, for some reason, women tend to shop around for the lowest prices or wait for x%-off sales (maybe they just have a better head for business). Whereas we men tend to see something we like and buy it ASAP.
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But my point is that guys and girls are a lot alike in terms of gaming. We all have our likes and dislikes, and we share those with plenty of other people regardless of their gender. First person shooters? Yeah, there are guys and girls that are into those. RPGs? Those too. Platformers? Yep. Puzzle games? Like you wouldn't believe. Racing games? That's covered too. Sports? No, no one likes those. Especially Madden. Fighting games? We like those too.
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My fiancee hates video games but she's playing with the wii and even mentioned that we should get one. Unfortunately, her ultra-competitive side peeked out when she admitted she wants the wii so she can, "crush that 4 year old terror." Okay so, it's not a noble reason to want a wii but it's pushing one more female into a traditionally male dominated venue.
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Funny cause its true? haha, probably.
Don't worry, I used to date a good lookin girl who used to like video games a lot. I just like getting a rise out of the Joystiq crowd.
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http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2007/03/how_gadget_make.html
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HEY POW ZAM!
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Stereotypes from the 1980s and early 90s are why girls don't play today, the imagery of the rowdy teenage boys in the dingy arcades, slugging quarter after quarter into the machine, and the image of the overweight guy playing Quake 2 on his PC for hours and hours on end
That's what turns girls off to this sort of thing, but its just a stereotype
In 20 years, we won't be seeing this discussion at all
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@ Brinstar
Because ugly nerds lust for what they cannot obtain (i.e. hot chix)
Although this applies for me too, if i'm attracted to her, it usually means she's waaaay out of my league
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The gaming industry can market to whomever the hell they want. I'll still do my own research and buy games from various genres, as long as they appeal to me. As an individual, not a female. I don't want to be catered to or represented. I just want to shoot/slash at things, advance a story, solve puzzles, or be mind-****ed by Hideo Kojima when the mood strikes me. End of story. As stated by 18, yeah, I basically "STFU and play the same games that guy gamers play". Only I'm not "hideous".
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I agree, but then again so are Male gamers...
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If you can't speak about girl gamers in general terms, then how can we be having a discussion about designing and marketing games for them? Shouldn't we all just sit and twiddle our thumbs, confounded by the overwhelming diversity of the female populace?
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What an ass hole, ha ha!
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Heh heh, a "broad brush" seems to be the perfect implement to paint female gamers with.
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Get it?
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It makes sense- chick flicks make a lot of money so why not create the video game equivalent of that if such a thing is possible? We already have the video game equivalent of guy movies (brainless action games with lots of explosions, loud noises, fast cars and huge overcompensating weapons).
Let them try.
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I have to somewhat agree with the female = careful spending thing, because I DO scour reviews like a fiend to see if the game I was all hyped up for really is good. But I'm also a sucker for getting what I want NOW, DAMNIT, with the nice colored manuals, and the lack of "Player's Choice" or "Platinum Hit" scrawled attop the box art, and the nice colored manuals.
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Struggle usually implies effort and the effort is pretty poor. There are a few games out there but the big shops and the big console makers are just not really trying at this point.
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As I see it, I think girls are very intuitive-- they'll see games and they'll know what is fun and what isn't. I think that developers need to be more open in terms of not making things so hard core sometimes. Adding the several difficulty levels, as well as not having a million controls to confuse people will allow more non gamers to get into gaming. That's why DS and Wii are so popular among women...
And I love the jackass comments...
I work in a male dominated industry, and none of them say things like this.. People are hilarious...
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I think that girls like a lot of the same games as guys, but it's somehow less acceptable for girls be gamers because it 'doesn't fit'.
Perhaps we do buy stuff later. In my case its a budget thing. But the weirdest look I've ever gotten when buying a game is when I was pestering salesclerks to get something out of the back on a game's street date.
And there are hot girl gamers. We are just smart enough to stay away from boobs like Neal.
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NOBODY CARES KTHX :)
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Fuck that, why can't we all just be people who like games, its like people who play football with friends all the time, they aren't football players, they're just people who like football...
My girlfriend loves EQ but hates Gears(She hates gore period), but I've played Gears with other girls, so can you really say its the demographic and not the person...
I'm tired of all this social bullshit about how people ca't get X type of people to do Y type of activity under Z conditions, have to make a good game for a target audience, you can't just make a good game and have it find its own audience...
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@Kamizar, exactly. I don' call myself a male gamer, or a Californian male game enthusiast of European descent who likes adventure/platform/puzzle/rhythm/RTS/everythingbutsports games.
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http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/scguru9697/Motivational/1152840521152.jpg
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Much like your middle name, Bob.
I heard your mom's name was Swallow.
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Theres a lot of things women arent supposed to do, and it seems most women believe that them self.
So its up to the women to change them selves, dont be what your told. Be what you want to be!
Note that this applies to men as well, you dont HAVE to play violent/ultra realistic games just because you have a penis ;)
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