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Posted: Apr 6th 2007 6:59PM Quaddw said

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Leaks are always nice.

On a Side Note:
Just got my first issue of Games for Windows from your free sub give away, thanks :D. Came on my B-Day too :P

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:05PM PoisonedAl said

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The only time leaks are bad is when game code is leaked. Most PC games only have a week of beta testing of the full version becuase publishers are so parinoid of leaks...

That and the fact it's cheaper to let the public test their half-finished pile of crap and patch it later. But yeah, leaks of new hardware comming out might be wrong or a little misleading, but it stops you blowing money on the older system a week before it plumits in price! And that's nice.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:08PM JoshMilewski said

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I still didn't get my first issue yet...Maybe tomorrow?

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:33PM spasewalkr said

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nice non-biased title, there tony

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:56PM (Unverified) said

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Sensationalize story titles much Tony?

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:48PM (Unverified) said

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The problem with leaks is that people work themselves up into a froth daydreaming of all the cool things that the new item will do, then when the product doesn't live up to their expectations, which of course it never will, they are disappointed. You then end up having to suffer through the usual backlash of articles and comments by people lambasting "New Product X" and the fact that it doesn't have "Feature Y".

What's even better is when bloggers end up saying how "Product X" is a failure because it didn't live up to their idea of the product. Take for example the Zune, everyone was quick to announce that "it's no iPod Killer!" yet Microsoft never once even hinted that it would be. Instead the iPod-Killer label was something the community attached to it all by themselves, because of leaks and their own day dreaming.

Leaks are a little bit like knowing exactly what you're getting for Christmas... 6 months early. Sure, if you're dead inside and don't enjoy surprises this may be appealing but I happen to enjoy a bit of the unknown.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 7:50PM (Unverified) said

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Is he blaming the leak on the huge poostorm that followed the "special midnight announcement?" If that's the case, he'd be wrong. The announcement of the Elite was a huge PR stumble for Microsoft in a time when the bloom may be off of the Wii and the PS3 is really struggling in the marketplace.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 8:00PM (Unverified) said

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Easy there, fellas! It's a reference to the old sci-fi show "The Outer Limits."

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 8:44PM ummhello said

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apple did this to me when I bought my photo ipod (60gig)...a month and a half later they came out with the EXACT same storage size/price, but it was a VIDEO ipod. f-ing bastards.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 9:04PM (Unverified) said

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Why do they do this? It's just such stupid PR to be talking about their leak problem in public. Deal with it internally. When I hear them say things like thes I feel like MS is:
1. Insulting my intelligence. I'm passing on the Elite because it's not a great deal, not because I lack context.
2. Not in control of their employees.

Also, as Apple is renowned for it's secrecy it can be frustrating when you buy from them only to have a new version come out a month later.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

That link keeps a timeline of their products and compares the time into the current products lifecycle with an average of all the previous lifecycles of that product. It's a good tool to figure out when a new release is likely.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 11:01PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think it's stupid PR, in fact, I bet the reason behind it is that he's trying to say to us: "*WE* didn't hype up the 360 Elite SKU, *YOU* did, so if it doesn't meet your expectations, that's not our fault". Which is technically true, when you think about it.

And actually, it's sort of funny he'd put this out there, as just yesterday I was thinking to myself "I wonder how many people have held off buying an Xbox 360 because of the early leaked news of the Elite, and the cooler running chips". And I can't help but agree with them on this one, because I personally have put off buying a 360 until the new chips start arriving. And based on certain comments here at Joystiq, many others have done the same.

It's bad business to announce better things are coming in the future when you're trying to sell a product in the present.

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 11:14PM (Unverified) said

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Kudos to Tony for recognizing the Outer Limits reference. But what do you expect when you throw the Sony/Apple dogs a bone with that headline?

Posted: Apr 6th 2007 11:25PM (Unverified) said

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Nice title... You make it sound like Microsoft is the only one who wants to prevent leaks. How about when Sony's Home service was leaked and Sony threatened to ban Kotaku from all events and information.

Of course leaks are bad for business, and I would expect any business to do everything possible to control them.

Posted: Apr 7th 2007 12:02AM (Unverified) said

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yeah leaks must be the problem. surely it has nothing to do with it being expensive as hell and screwing over early adopters.

Posted: Apr 7th 2007 2:15AM (Unverified) said

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Why does it matter if I, your inevitable consumer, hold out on buying your product now and purchase it later? All that does is delay your money, which you're going to get either way. Not only that, but in the case of the Elite, I'm paying even more for your product. If it's hurting your sales for the month, you need only utter "elite's commin'" to your stockholders to calm 'em. Assuming your stock holders aren't idiots (which I'm guessing someone involved in predicting the future isn't, but then again, there ARE meteorologists) that should do the trick.

Posted: Apr 12th 2007 4:46PM (Unverified) said

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I think the best part about this story is DS Fanboy gloating about how they knew Nintendo wouldn't be releasing a DS Lite for at least a year.

Posted: Apr 7th 2007 1:01PM (Unverified) said

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Seems like the real reason companies hate leaks isn't because people wait to buy the new console instead - after all, the newest iteration costs more and so likely makes up for the brief delay, if people are going to buy one of the versions anyways. (At least in the case of leaks that aren't extremely far off in the distance, like this 360 leak.)

Rather, I suspect it prevents them from rolling out a concerted marketing campaign and presumably selling even more of the Elites once they do show up.

-Geoff
http://www.alinktothefuture.com

Posted: Apr 8th 2007 12:52AM h0mi said

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There are a few problems with leaks... the leaks may have incomplete (if not incorrect) information. Look at the "zephyr" leaks. We were told 65nm, hdmi and 120 gb bundled all together, then it became a limited edition SKU, then it was "all 360s will get HDMI after the limited edition epters out"...

What do we have? No 65nm yet, and that "redesign" will be later this year. We have a 3rd SKU that isn't limited edition, and no HDMI for existing users, let alone for the core/premium SKUs. Meanwhile, a lot of frothing and handwaving and FUD and fanboyism has been spewed on weblogsinc sites, as well as other gaming forums.

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