Nice, SCE; slowly giving what potential ps3 want, maybe in a few months they'll give use another game truly worth playing besides resistance...

Wow ok Rumble is slowly coming back

I'm glad I didn't install 1.6 yet. Now let's see if I can hold out until 1.8...

You have to wait for the PS ONE games to be formatted for the PS3 and be updated in the store tomorrow. The games there right now are still for the PSP. They will be updating this tomorrow during their normal updates.


Next gen FTW

Rumble coming back is great. Considering the vast majority of those "fully backwards compatible games" were not without rumble.

They've got me a step closer to buying one. Only thing I'd like to see in regards to backwards compatibility is a guarantee that the saves will be able to jump from the PS3 to the next generation system. Ideally, it would make sense just to use Memory Sticks as the new standard. I'm a bit wary of putting all my PS1/PS2 memcards into the PS3 and having them not able to advance further once the PS3 is replaced.

PS1 downloadable games playable on the PS3 itself.

Finally!

This is a great boost for PSN. The combo of Original downloadable games + downloadable PS1 classics easily trumps Xbox Live's offerings and even gives the virtual console a bit of competition (just a little, though). Plus, you can still play your old PS1 discs if you happen to have them. It's win-win for retro PS1 goodness.

"Your PSOne and PS2 controllers and accessories will now rumble."

Ummm...I guess you need to have the limited edition PS3 that has PSX/PS2 controller ports on it to use that functionality?

What PSOne and PS2 controllers are they talking about?

"The combo of Original downloadable games + downloadable PS1 classics easily trumps Xbox Live's offerings"

Only, the PS1 "classics" so far have all been garbage. PSN has a long way to go before it's anywhere near XBLA, let alone trumping it. It's definitely got potential for downloadable games(I'm all about LittleBigPlanet) but PS1 downloads are a non-factor for me.

I'd like to be able to copy my own PS1 games to the PS3 HDD. Also, when are us Europeans even going to get ANY PS1 games on the PSN? We have a grand total of 0 right now. And last, has this update made any more games work in BC for PS2/1 for Euro PS3? I want Vib Ribbon and Rez to work.

What about being able to copy PS2 saves from the PS3 BACK to PS2 Memory Cards? Is that currently possible? I've heard this isn't allowed. I'd love to see this fixed at some point in a future firmware update (and it would give more repeated use to their PS2 to PS3 transfer peripheral). I'd hate to use my PS3 to advance myself in a PS2 game and never be able to go back to the PS2 to continue my game after that. It would be nice to be able to keep a PS2 in the bedroom and a PS3 in the living room, for example.

@8 I suppose they might add some in tomorrow during the PS Store update?

@9 Yes,that would be nice....

At #7

The way to plug your PS2 controller to the PS3 is via a USB adapter. You could get them for under 10$ at RadioShack.

"What about being able to copy PS2 saves from the PS3 BACK to PS2 Memory Cards?"

It could have worked...if that piece of crap one-time-use "converter" they sold worked both ways. I think they screwed the pooch on that one. Would have made more sense to just make the device right: a dedicated external device that interfaced via USB, HDD, and Memory Stick slot. So you could put cards in, copy to the HDD and/or Memory Stick, copy back to memcards, etc.

I just hope this fixes the game stopping bug when you play Kingdom
Hearts 2 on a PAL PS3

Nice to see the BC list improved already. Gran Turismo 4 is now supported, and I'm sure there will be many more titles with this update.

GT3 and SSX3 were my only unsupported titles.

Sony have done a fantastic job with software BC, even the Sony haters are having problems finding faults...

@jchensor & Mike

There is a possible workaround for this. If you buy a Pelican Codebreaker, it allows you to access the USB port on the PS2 in order to transfer saves, codes, etc. from a pen drive to a memory card. Therefore, if you're able to save your data to a pendrive on the PS3, then you can use this method to get your saves on to a PS2 memory card.

I've installed 1.7 on my PS3. I can not find the 3 PS1 games I DL'd in the past. I've looked at settings on my PS3 and in different folders, but can't find it anywhere.

Anyone know how I can play these PS1 games on my PS3 now that I've got 1.7???

Will we be able to sign up for the Japanese PSN and download PSOne games from there?

Still no blu-ray out at 720p. Sony = teh fail.

Well time to get the good ol' thumbdrive out and copy that gosh darn updated since I has yet to setup the online service thingy.

"Still no blu-ray out at 720p"

Wrong

You guys need to download the PS1 games again.. they have been reformatted for PS2/PSP.. you dont have to pay for it again.

If you can get a Blu-Ray movie to output 720p on PS3, the web would be appreciative to hear your secret. One of the most frustrating issues there is, yet firmware updates focus on trival stuff like "you can now use PSOne save files from your PSP on the PS3". Wowz I had many sleepless nights waiting for that feature.

I hope Motorstorm will have a patch that will include rumble for their game. I would love to hear when the new controllers would come out.

BrunchMonolith

Go to your system settings...
Go to your display settings ans select custom then check the 720p & 1080i (and 1080p if your tv can output this)
Go to BR output settings and make sure your it is set up to output 720p & 1080i...

Mine also upscales DVD's up to 720p. What kind of tv do you have. Sony said some tv's will fuck up the display resolution.

Bah, I still think its stupid to be releasing products that are not even finished, whats with all these patches needed to fix things that should already be working. What if I dont have the Internet to get these patches? Old consoles didnt need this and its why I stayed away from pc games.

Is joystiq's commenting system broken?

You can download most updates here
http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates?ILC-PS3_1304&LINK=PS3SU
and burn them to a disc If you don't have your PS3 hook up to the internet. Who doesn't have access to at least a nearby computer to download updates, but can afford a $600 + system.

I just want the new rumble controllers to come out. God of War II really begs for some rumble.

Pirates wear eye patches for night vision. Still not getting one.

Pirates wear eye patches for night vision.
Still not getting a PS3.

Pirates wear eye patches for night vision.
Still not getting a PS3.

PS1 games look shitty when compared to N64 games but that didn't stop Sony's rise to power back then.

The Guitar Hero guitar finally works on PS3.

I couldn't get rumble to work though...

How many updates does that make now? And how many MB of downloads? I like that Sony has embraced the software upgradeable console model that Microsoft pioneered, but isn't an update a month a bit much? I mean, maybe they could have finished one or two features prior to shipping it?

Boy you can tell some you guys are pure console people. All the whining... Do yourselves a favor and don't download "HOME" when it comes available, you guys will be killing yourselves with the constant updates that will happen before and after it launches.

I mean really you guys want online capabilities and features but you don't want have to download updates all the time? The XBL community has been doing that for a few years and even before them, PC's games and services has been doing for a decade and half. Welcome to 21 century people, plugin and update yourselves.

not to mention the absolute hassle it is to download, read EULAs, and then install updates on PS3. have to plug in the controller, turn on the controller 2-3 times.. now, where's that cable...ugh


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i think the point that's being made is that XBL's method of updates and actual updating is handled *much* better. certainly much more seamlessly.


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@JoNT

Selecting 720p and 1080i means it will output 1080i, which isn't 720p.

Also I can't see anywhere in Blu-Ray settings where you get to define output resolution.

Also the PS3 doesn't upscale DVDs so it must be your display doing that.

If you have a 1080i only or 720p only TV, Sony hates you.

So with that adapter that someone said and this firmware update now the guitar hero controller will work???

So with that adapter that someone said and this firmware update now the guitar hero controller will work???

"The combo of Original downloadable games + downloadable PS1 classics easily trumps Xbox Live's offerings and even gives the virtual console a bit of competition (just a little, though)."

That is a bold, bold claim. We already know that PSOne classics don't have the retro girth of the old 2D games. PS1 games are generally ugly to today's quality 3D standards (although the cartoonish games survive quite well...XENOGEARS!).

I'd like Intelligent Qube, FF7, and FF8...but I already have those. Not much is worth going back for when there's a last or current gen equivalent in most cases.

"What about being able to copy PS2 saves from the PS3 BACK to PS2 Memory Cards? Is that currently possible? I've heard this isn't allowed."

No, it doesn't. This annoyed the hell out of me. First you buy a $15 memory card adapter that doesn't come with a USB cable...making it worthless if you don't have one (I had misplaced the one that came with the PS3...so it was driving me nuts). All the adapter is good for is dumping your PS2 mem cards to the PS3 hard drive...you can't work between a PS2 and PS3 with a game save. It's annoying as hell.

Help,
What do you do if the 1.7 upgrade dies and doesn't display anything after downloading it ? Just pulled the "Upgrade" and i guess it failed, which now means i have a heavy paper wieght, switches on and does nothing else, does't display on screen so can't see/do anything with it ,Any knowledge would be appreciated, thanks in advance , Andy

Hi, does Firmware version 1.7 include everything from firware version 1.6? I ask this because i have a Japanese Playstation 3 and i downloaded v1.7 from the Jap PS3 website, thinking that i would now be able to play my Jap PS2 games. However they are still not working. I did not download v1.6, should i have done this? or is there some other reason for my problem.... any suggestions helpful. Thanks!