Like divorcing Han Solo from his carbonite tomb, the bounty hunters at Llamma pulled the new and improved motherboard from its black shell and proceeded to pore over its silicon surface, documenting every facet and imagining what it would look like in golden bikini. What did they discover here? First, what appears to be a quick-n-dirty fix for the RROD: some epoxy around the CPU and GPU. The big question: while both chips are different revisions from the current models, they can't be certain if this indicates a die-shrink to the 65nm promised land though they state there's a "good possibility" it does. Remember, Microsoft's Albert Pinello told us the Elite would use the "same components" as the existing Xbox 360 consoles, so we're gonna wait for a definitive answer on this one.
[Thanks, l3ftonm3]
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For shame, Christopher, for shame.
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(AND I'M NOT ANGRY, IT'S JUST IT'S ALL-CAPS DAY, SORRY)
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THANKS MIKEAWESOME!
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But I really wish they would have made more improvements before they released a new version, I want a console that allows me to actually hear my games over it's fan...
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http://www.ps3center.net/story-394.html
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-TheJT
-TheLamma"
Can you kiss any more ass? Did Microsoft pay this guy or what? It i still a rip-off for it's price. Come On!
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1 - larger HDD
2 - HDMI
(black is a sad "feature")
If you are buying it for HDMI.. why in the world would you care if they included the normal component cables?
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You don't have a copy of The Empire Strikes Back the book, -10 geek points for you. It's Tauntaun, I just checked.
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With microsoft, price drops have always come in either may, or november. So if it ain't in may, be prepared to hold out for another 6 months.
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The problem isn't the console then, it's your speakers... :P
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Actually, I think if they don't drop it before Halo 3, it ain't dropping until after the holiday. With Halo 3 and GTAIV, why bother? Gonna sell a crap load of consoles between October to December. And with rumors of a fall release for Halo 3 (August/September), 360 will see much better months thnn this previous NPD, which was disappointing to say the least.
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These are the same size, but probably a respin (a smal redesign to the core architecture) and reduce the power draw.
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it seems like after some months of heat, those chips gets a little loose and "fall" a little from the board.
i was hoping they had that fixed on the Elite, but it doesn't seem so...
my 360 died from error 0102 (if you know what it means) and i had it back this way. it works most of the times and people have been doing this for months since the first one came back from death (and never died again).
if anyone needs this tutorial let me know. i think someone already translated that to english.
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Ebolaboi, just because his opinion is pro-360 doesn't make him a fanboy. He just has a different opinion than you.
Konny, if you were purchasing the Elite just for HDMI, you wouldn't really need the analog cables. The thing is, not everyone is purchasing it just for the cables. The vast majority of buyers will be new 360 owners, and they will select it for larger HDD, HDMI, and/or black color. Most people don't have an HDTV, but they could still buy the Elite for large HDD and play on an SD tv with component.
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For me (have a 360 of course) the main allure was the bigger HD, HDMI isn't factor (VGA is just as good) but the big one was going to be newer chips/fans/etc.... this is a major letdown for me....
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gaurantee it is not 65nm... the die of the cpu would be smaller.
A thing to note about the coils: there are less turns which means that the current passing through the coils is greater...
Also three mosfets are missing on the new board, noted on the right side. This means they chose to use a three phase power supply instead of a four phase, Note three per coil. Generally, the more phases the less ripple/noise for the power output.
The capacitors are all different, all skinnier now; note that this probably means they went with a higher voltage rating or less farads.
The amount of surface mount caps next to the cpu has increased. This is most likely from the switch from 4 phase power to 3 phase power.
Generally looks like they are cutting costs across the board ;) pun intended.
Oh and the epoxy to prevent board warping is painfully hillarious!!!!
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Still not seeing the appeal of this vs. the Premium, it really seems like they're trying to mimick Sony with the Elite
It certainly isn't the compelling product that was wished for
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Oh, and for anyone in the know, like NickMali (for example), I'd love to know what we can expect, and as such I'd also love to hear your thoughts on what I just mentioned.
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Whats so great about that oh wait I remember all that QQing about the PS3 and its price.
Microsoft take you all for fools.
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If you are a gamer..... There are zero reasons not to have one.....good games and variety, affordable hardware, great online services.
My PS3 experience has improved recently.....though its ironic that the game I've ended up playing the most is MORTAL KOMBAT 2......yes it plays wonderfully online.
FOr Wii......Suffice to say.....Super Paper Mario = pure joy.
So basically the only reason to Poo Poo on any other system is that you just don't have enough money to own them all.......which is ok for a deprived fanboy like you I guess.
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I was saying that the fan is loud, but also, I don't like it when I'm playing Gears of War at 4 AM and I wake someone up because the TV is too loud.
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I still refuse to purchase a system I'm not sure that it turn on the next time I want to play a game. I'll stick with my "reliable" consoles for now
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It seems to me that they are just making it cheaper. This doesn't mean less quality just cutting corners slightly. They probably shaved a good $10-$20 off the cost to offset the inclusion of the upgraded scalar chip and the hdmi connector. It most likely costs around the same as the premium board.
Things like these don't usually change power consumption on a grand scale. Scince the cpu and gpu are the same I'd gather that the power consumption would only be a watt or two different. Though this sets them up for a good price cut once the 65nm tapes out and enters production.
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