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Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 6:19PM (Unverified) said

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Maybe this guy should start making games again and stop bitching and moaning in public about how hard his life is and how sucky everyone else in the industry is.

Man, am I the only one who misses the days when game designers were anonymous?

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 6:59PM (Unverified) said

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I actually like Jaffe's ideas more than his games. This could've been a good game. It would've been nice to have a game with more going on politically than "kill the nazis/mutants/zombies/aliens/robots to save the country/planet/galaxy/universe."

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 7:01PM iBubbles said

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This game wouldn't of been that great anyway.
Too much politics in it.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 7:13PM (Unverified) said

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"Man, am I the only one who misses the days when game designers were anonymous?"

Garriot pimped himself as Lord British in Ultima as far back as '81. Would you really rather be playing games from before that time?

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 7:25PM zsavior said

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I really do not like David Jaffe, I am not saying hate because that is a strong word, but I adamantly dislike the guy. When being interviewed by Jeff Kahey (sorry for any mis-spelling) he left a bad taste in my mouth for one reason.

In gist he thinks Gamers should be glad to pay more for games like Shadow of the Colossus, and Okami. Games that in his view are good and artistic. He believe that Gamers should be willing to pay more because the game designers like himself should get more revenue and earn more for making good games. In his world he isn't getting enough credit monetarily and he thinks this is why a game like lets say Ice Age the game makes more than Shadow of the Colossus, because gamers aren't discriminating enough and willing to pay for quality.

I do believe he has a point in one retrospect that gamers aren't discriminating enough. What I find fault with is the idea that he wants to be paid more and he wants to pass that buck off to the gamer. Basically that would be the equivalent of Bruce Willis saying "Hey Pay and extra 10 dollars a ticket to see my movie because I am a better action star than Van Dam." That doesn't fly with me, and it also shows a type of elitism that I don't like about this man. Gaming left in the hands of people like this will implode because they will destroy it from the inside. I am glad that for now he doesn't have the power to have his word be the final say, or else a lot of us would be screwed.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 11:52PM (Unverified) said

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Sounds like he was trying to make the Citizen Kane of videogames or something.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 7:39PM (Unverified) said

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I don't like this guy.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 8:08PM (Unverified) said

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Developing games is a career. Wanting to make more money is basically the fundamental base on which the United States of America sits. Getting payed more for better work is what separates us from Communists. What I disagree with him about though, is that he deserves to be payed more. Gears of War is fun enough, but it's the same old gameplay mechanic as Devil May Cry before it. He's probably making 100k a year, and I think he should shut up and be happy with it.

Not everyone is content with making a middle of the road salary and living in a modest home (like Shigeru Miyamoto)

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 8:09PM (Unverified) said

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a movie where a america is invaded by the chinese, the game would take place in a small town and a group of teenagers would create a resistance to the foreigh invador, one of them will be caught and a tracking device put in him, he will 'escape' and lead them to the group. they will.... wait a minute this reminds me of a certain 80 movies.


Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 9:01PM (Unverified) said

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I'd take David Jaffe more seriously if it appeared he'd ever actually learned anything about Greek mythology.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 9:34PM (Unverified) said

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I would have liked to play his PSP game. Its unique perspective on war and the US would have been an interesting departure from traditional games.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 9:38PM (Unverified) said

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Jaffe is an arrogant prick. He pisses, moans, and swears up a storm every time the asshole gets bad feedback. Twisted Metal Black was cool, God of War is cool, but this guy thinks he's the second coming of Noel Bushnell.

He reminds me of the Video Professor. Where you had the "try MY product" infomercials and then the short-lived "try OUR product" variant, as if the other people who worked on it demanded some freakin' credit.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 11:23PM (Unverified) said

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Zsavior well put man jaffe will bleed us all dry.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 11:24PM rubyrhod said

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I don't know why everyone keeps interviewing Jaffe. Everyone keeps taking his views way to seriously. The dude has only made a few good games, 1 of which isn't even out yet. He only has like 3 original ip's at the moment. Twisted Medal, God of War and Calling all cars. God or War 1 and 2 are pretty much the same, nothing really new there. Just another hack and slash with some over the top action sequences. And he worked on the twisted medal games which are pretty much all the same to say the least. Until he comes up with something new and original I not going to value his opinion any more than the next game designer.

Posted: Apr 23rd 2007 11:58PM (Unverified) said

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@Zsavior

Guy, you're taking only bits and pieces of what he says. If you watch his full interview with Geoff he says it explicitly that he knows exactly what it feels like to pay $60, and that it's not fair to the consumer to have to pay $60 for a shitty game.

He never says any of what you construe; he feels a game like Shadow of the Colossus should have more buyers than bad movie licensed games, not that they should cost more money. He also feels like the devs for great games are under compensated because publishers can just say, "I'll go out and just license a movie and it'll sell better than a great game, so I don't have to pay for quality developers." He's basically saying that, unlike movies, with games you can make them really shit and people will buy them. He's hoping that gaming in popular culture evolves to the point where music and movies are, e.g, the best are what make the most money.

Don't hate, 'cause the guy really does sound like he's looking out for gamers, not just himself.

Posted: Apr 24th 2007 12:10AM (Unverified) said

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No one does this stuff because they are "looking out for gamers' they are looking out for themselves. it is how human nature works. When his interests align with gamers, we win. But don't mistake lip service for behavior. He is doing this to make a living -- a damned good one probably. He cares about gamers only so far as they are willing to pay for his wares -- which is fine, but I get tired of his posturing. GOWII is selling great and is a lot of fun, but it has about as much to do with art as any other dumb action flick. He ain't making Citizen Kane, he's making Rambo. But at the same time he wants to complain about how shitty the industry is. "Make me rich making shit so I can bitch about how making shit is making me rich"...

And to the guy who mentioned Shigeru drawing a tiny salary... um not. He is a director of Nintendo and a major stockholder and living quite well. An also notice he doesn't pop up in the press every week trying to promote himself as some sort of game design god like Jaffe. A little humility goes a long way -- but no one is in this busines out of altruism.

Posted: Apr 24th 2007 1:51AM (Unverified) said

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The second keyrat said "the best make the most money, like MUSIC and MOVIES" he lost all credibility. The worst movies imaginable make the most money. And it seems like all the top albums are rap or some derivative. The best stuff does not sell the most in any form of entertainment I can think of.

Posted: Apr 24th 2007 4:16AM (Unverified) said

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I'd take to this much more easily if the person suggesting it was intelligent and not the stereotypical man-child developer who thinks battles with GIANT FRICKIN' MINOTAURS IS SUCH A SWEET IDEA.

Posted: Apr 24th 2007 4:46AM (Unverified) said

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The industry really needs games like Heartland. Its not that it needs politics involved but a meaningful story or subtext that actually makes people think and engage the game in a way that no other (really can't think of any right now) game has done yet.

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