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Posted: May 12th 2007 3:44AM EclipseCDN said

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lol. Frankie couldn't have answered the Shiggy question any better.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 5:03AM (Unverified) said

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I stopped reading when he said "You don't want to put sumo wrestlers in a football game."
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Posted: May 12th 2007 6:14AM (Unverified) said

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too busy
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Posted: May 12th 2007 6:32AM (Unverified) said

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Oh my God how great is this!! All Halo All The Time is the new motto here at Joystiq.com!! I can't wait for the interview with the janitor who cleans the floors at Bungie and the in depth look at how the blades of grass in Halo 3 were designed and implemented!!
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Posted: May 12th 2007 7:18AM (Unverified) said

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Oh my god! Joystiq.com as well as every other gaming site in the godddamn world because there's a halo 3 event happening in cali and new york right now! And it's basically the biggest selling game that exists (ya know, besides pokemon and hannah montana)! What are the chances joystiq would cover something important like that? How dare them! Shu Nuff's stupid.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 7:43AM (Unverified) said

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Gaming journalists sure do love taking quotes out of context.

When Miyamoto said he could make Halo, he meant that he could make a game that appeals to western audiences. He didn't specifically mean Halo.

Read the full question and the full response. I'd post it, but I'm late for an appointment as it is.

Realize that there's a language barrier, too. Miyamoto isn't the best English speaker.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 8:09AM (Unverified) said

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I loved Frank as Herb on WKRP.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 10:54AM ZippyDSMlee said

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Fix the control scheme already time splitters plays better...hell half of the N64 FPS's played better, something about auto aim as a option and button mapping and no cookie cutter controls that makes a FPS "FUN" to play not a chore.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 8:53AM kingofwale said

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>I'm the writing lead at Bungie and that basically means that I lead a small writing department that does game script, combat dialog, some of the Marvel graphic novel, the comic book series, the books, the marketing,


Is the Milkman (just look at what he does) the best person to do an interview with?

I know people are all excited about Halo 3, but this is really not really telling us anything. Especially when someone doesn't even work on the game.

btw, ask him how he came up with that FANTASTIC storyline ending for Halo 2? and how the hell is he STILL working there.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 9:15AM (Unverified) said

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The interview with Frankie works since he's basically Bungie's de facto PR guy when it comes to Halo-related announcements, so even if he doesn't work on all the aspects of the game, he'll more than likely know the answers and know how to dodge the good ones. Also, he draws teh gud misterchiefs.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 9:47AM (Unverified) said

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Take that Shiggy!
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Posted: May 12th 2007 11:50AM (Unverified) said

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"When Miyamoto said he could make Halo, he meant that he could make a game that appeals to western audiences. He didn't specifically mean Halo.

Read the full question and the full response. I'd post it, but I'm late for an appointment as it is.

Realize that there's a language barrier, too. Miyamoto isn't the best English speaker."

Actually, I'd personally argue that you're taking it far too metaphorically. Beyond that, the fact that he'd be speaking for the entire interview in English is ridiculous. They have a translator with him for almost every thing.

When someone says they can make a game, but then do not because they want to concentrate on making games that are "fun"... I mean, how is that supposed to be taken?

If he's just referring to "Western style games", then that's even more ignorant and insulting. Then he's not just referring to Halo, he's referring to every game that's not from Japan.

Seriously, it wasn't the only thing he put in that way. Between that and a lot of the "I did" this "I did" that stuff in the interview, I felt it came off very poorly.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 12:50PM (Unverified) said

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"If he's just referring to "Western style games", then that's even more ignorant and insulting. Then he's not just referring to Halo, he's referring to every game that's not from Japan."

I think "Western style games" aren't simply games that come from the West, haha. I definitely think he is at least referring to a genre that is more realistic and intensely action packed. I think he was saying that it's not the type of game he wants to create, and I'm glad he doesn't. Frankly, I think many game creators could have come up with either Mario Bros or Halo.

And I also hope they never really considered making some side-scrolling game to mock Miyamoto. That would be childish and pathetic. Same goes for Miyamoto if he really had any kind of resentment behind his statement.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 12:52PM (Unverified) said

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Shiggs was saying he could make games on a larger scale ala Halo as opposed to simpler games like Nintendogs, not specifically Halo. All this little son of a blowjob has contributed to video games is the oh-so-amazing dialogue in the Halo games. The next time he talks about Miyamoto, he gets a boot in his ass. He wouldn't have a job if it weren't for Shiggy and his plumbers.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 1:17PM (Unverified) said

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Props to enbob89
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Posted: May 12th 2007 1:28PM Triforceowner said

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Shu Nuff, if there were individual blades of grass in any game that each had their own physical space and attributes I would want to hear about it ;).
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Posted: May 12th 2007 1:33PM (Unverified) said

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@ZippyDSMlee

Did you seriously just request auto-aim? I personally think RPGs would be more fun if they had "auto-run-to-the-objective" but that wold kind of defeat the purpose of the game wouldn't it?
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Posted: May 12th 2007 1:59PM (Unverified) said

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@enbob89: Oh please, next time you make such pathetic comments you get a boot in your ass. Frank O'Connor would have a job even if Miyamoto hadn't created Mario Bros and it would probably be in the video games industry. I respect and admire Miyamoto as much as any Nintendo fanboy but attributing all success the videogames industry has had to Miyamoto is an exageration. Perhaps without Miyamoto Mario wouldn't have existed but the industry already had a lot of momentum by the time Mario came about, and I believe it would be as big as it is today even without Miyamotos games. So, don't be so naive because per your criteria, Miyamoto wouldn't have created Mario or a job for that matter if it wasn't for Willy Higinbotham.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 2:10PM (Unverified) said

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props to qbix
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Posted: May 12th 2007 2:27PM (Unverified) said

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Miyamoto's comment was kind of an ass thing to say, but there was no lie in it. There is nothing revolutionary about Halo, they just happened to release at the right time to the right audience, and now that fan-base is going ape-shit over Halo 3. The story is the only thing unique, and lets face it, that isn't that good either.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 2:46PM (Unverified) said

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"btw, ask him how he came up with that FANTASTIC storyline ending for Halo 2? and how the hell is he STILL working there."

No need to ask him; Frankie wasn't the writer on Halo 2. Ask him instead why he is STILL working there after forwarding so many lolcat photos to the entire company.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 2:58PM (Unverified) said

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Shiigy Shiigy! You gotta speekah dah engrish! We noo unastan shitty folk!
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Posted: May 12th 2007 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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"Sorry Master Chief, Miyamoto isn't in this castle."
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Posted: May 12th 2007 3:20PM (Unverified) said

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"The story is the only thing unique, and lets face it, that isn't that good either."

Haha.

Obviously someone has never played Halo with an unbiased mind.

... heh, story line's not that good...
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Posted: May 12th 2007 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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"If he's just referring to "Western style games", then that's even more ignorant and insulting. Then he's not just referring to Halo, he's referring to every game that's not from Japan."

You know, there's a few things wrong with that. First, I can walk up to anyone who lives outside of Japan and tell them to yell out the first thing that comes to mind when I say "Japanese game", and I bet their answer is "Katamari". Everyone seems to have this perception that Japanese games are all bright, colorful, and fail to make any sense. I guess what I'm saying is, get over it, because that's how the West views "Eastern style games".

Second, if he truly was making that broad statement, is he that far off-base? People here always want to know how every shooter stacks-up to Halo or CoD. A new Sci Fi shooter launches, doesn't even have to be set in space, and people compare it to Halo. Gears of War was compared to Halo, and Resistance was compared to both Gears and Halo. WWII, Vietnam, War on Terror shooters are compared to CoD. The West loves shooters, to the point where its absurd.

It doesn't make Miyamoto right, but I don't think he's too far off.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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A lot of eastern companies make western games to tap the XBox market, like Capcom with Dead Rising and Lost Planet. Miyamoto was saying he could make a shooter if he wanted, but he doesn't like shooters. I didn't see any hate in it. And I read Frank's rebuttal as a friendly zing back, and didn't see any hate there either. But still, the man said "You don't want to put sumo wrestlers in a football game," so he has no idea what he's talking about.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 4:28PM samfish said

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OK, morons- here's the quote:

"You mentioned social issues in Japan. But games are a global business — and the youth of America have a host of unique issues in front of them. The reason I mention this is that one criticism of Nintendo's games is that they are very Japanese-centric. American gamers have bought more copies of Halo than they did of Metroid, for instance. Do you ever worry that you're losing touch with what young American players might want to play?"

"I could make Halo. It's not that I couldn't design that game. It's just that I choose not to. One thing about my game design is that I never try to look for what people want and then try to make that game design. I always try to create new experiences that are fun to play."

WOW! Look at that, fifth graders! When you put the quote in context, he's NOT ripping on Halo! HOLYMOTHERFUCKINGSHITFACEDMONKEYRAPINGGOD! THAT'S AMAZING!

In other words, it would be:

I COULD be a pool boy...but I choose not to. I instead choose to cut grass because that's what I prefer to do!

I COULD use a PC...but I choose not to. I instead choose to use Linux because that's what I prefer to use!

I COULD wear a black shirt...but I choose not to. I instead choose to wear a blue shirt because that's my favorite color!

I COULD look at gay porn...but I choose not to. I instead choose to look at farm porn because that's what I prefer to do!

I COULD drink Gatorade...but I choose not to. I instead choose to drink Powerade because I think it tastes better!

I COULD eat cookies...but I choose not to. I instead choose eat cake because that's what I prefer to do!

I COULD go to Six Flags...but I choose not to. I instead choose to go to Cedar Point because that's where I prefer to go!

Holy crap...if you think Miyamoto was ripping on Halo, you've seriously got an IQ below room temperature.
OR you never bothered actually reading the thing in context.
For some of you, I have no doubt that it's a little from Column A and a little from Column B.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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If you don't want to make Halo you're a moron, duh!!! Let's ALL make Halos, right now! W00T!

::calls dibs on designing the volcano level::
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Posted: May 12th 2007 6:36PM (Unverified) said

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So he's essentially saying that Americans want to play Halo. That's why everyone got mad?
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Posted: May 12th 2007 8:05PM (Unverified) said

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The majority of the responses above are a good example of why I am sometimes ashamed of being an American.
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Posted: May 12th 2007 8:37PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, no kidding. If I see one more "Shiggy is an asshole" or "Frankie does jack shit and should be fired" post I'm probably just going to move to the Pirate-Bay island and import the games I like. Jesus Christ, people, It's called PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS! Miyamoto likes to put emphasis on minute details and story. Bungie puts emphasis on quick and engaging fun. Both are right in their own respects. Metroid and Halo are two great games in their own rights. Metroid is slow and very long with lots of puzzles and story intricacies. Halo is well timed, with good story and quick timed strategy.

Both are good.

Get over it. xx;
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Posted: May 12th 2007 10:15PM (Unverified) said

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@qbix: pardon my comments, i haven't had my apple juice today. i will say this: could miyamoto make halo? maybe. could bungie have made mario? heck no.

and i hate to sound like mr. miyamoto-be-praised, but i think you underestimate the value of nintendo's contributions to the games industry. miyamoto didn't invent interactive entertainment, but he's revolutionized it a couple of times.

where's my apple juice!!!!!
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Posted: May 13th 2007 1:23AM Mike Knew said

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Wow alost every comment here is about miyamoto. Also I reckon Miyamoto is the best game creator fella ever, because that seems to be the topic now.
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Posted: May 13th 2007 7:03AM (Unverified) said

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Just to remind people, there's a LOT of Halo Movie information, including videos of Neill Blomkamp's work at this site: http://halomovie.trivialbeing.net/
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Posted: May 13th 2007 6:13AM (Unverified) said

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Miyamoto said he could make Halo. Not western or any other shit.

Bring it on Bungie, try making something without Gates infinite wallet and prove Miyamoto how good you are... making halo 4! yawn...
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Posted: May 14th 2007 8:01PM Dauss said

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@ 34

Before anyone knew what Halo would become, you think Bungie got all the funding form Microsoft that they asked for?

And before you answer "BUT THEY STILL GOT FUNDING" think about where Miyamoto got his funding from.

The parent company.

Regardless, Miyamoto is cool, so I'm not ripping on him. But really, I think we've heard enough of "MIYAMOTO SAVED VIDEO GAMES" as I'm pretty damn sure that that honor would have to go to the collective industries which, in the face of poor sales, continued to compete with each other and develop the superiour products we enjoy today.
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Posted: May 13th 2007 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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Are you really trying to say that Halo doesnt have a good story line Kyuubi? My opinion, shared by many others, is that the Halo story line is one of the best in video games. I know that you could just say "oh it's just aliens attacking life as we know it." Yeah it's much more complicated than that bud.
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Posted: May 13th 2007 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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And Frankie is overrated? How could he be? He is their writer and thats it. He dident write the story in Halo, they pay writers to do that. He brings us info in updates and interviews and writes for Bungie. That is so bad right? He should be banished!
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Posted: May 14th 2007 11:13AM (Unverified) said

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haha, there was a writer on halo or halo 2? haha! halo is, hands-down, the WORST written game ever. dialog and story are 100% trash. it's on a par with a bad sci-fi channel movie. basically, this guy gets paid to suck. if you play this game for the story, i'll tell you what your friends don't- you have no taste or intelligence.

what is the purpose of this beta, if not collecting data, then? publicity.

and what a sucky interview- he says "Well, this is a multiplayer event and we're not talking about campaign at all" but goes ON AND ON AND ON about the movie, which has nothing to do with the game!

what a name-dropping, arrogant bastard, too, "peter jackson peter jackson peter jackson" - i thought this was a multiplayer halo3 event.

obviously, Bungie's mindset is:

- lets put out the same game over and over again, like madden

- we have been popular for 7 years now, so that makes us better than you

- we don't care what you say.

i will really enjoy it when halo tanks like pac man, nes, mortal kombat, street fighter, and a lot more did - just like all pre-teen trends do.
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Posted: May 14th 2007 2:31PM (Unverified) said

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I would love to see Bungie do a better job at a side scroller than Myamoto, as much as I'd like to find better chicken wings than the Tara Inn, but unfortunately I feel it will just end up being a sad embarrassment. For the record, I didn't know Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy were side scrollers. Their response was as dumb as their games, seriously.
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Posted: May 14th 2007 8:05PM (Unverified) said

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If you really think Halo is the worst written game ever, you're a moron. It's not Shakespeare, but relative to the writing in other games, it is Shakespeare. Off the top of my head the only thing that could clearly best it in this category is Planescape: Torment. Not to sound xenophobic but the simple fact that it isn't translated makes it better written than about 80% of (console) games. I do enjoy the Halo series primarily because of the story, and actually I do have good taste and am fairly intelligent (my IQ is indeed above room temp.)Haters need to stop hatin!
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Posted: May 14th 2007 10:42PM (Unverified) said

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Just to add more wood to the fire, I think what miyamoto was saying is while halo is a great FPS it is still a generic first person shooter, albeit with great balance and story but still it hasn't made an improvements of the genre since tribes. Also bungie could make mario NOW but they aren't the kind of company that could think up the side-scrolling genre. This is where the differ miyamoto wants to make something no-one has ever seen before. Bungie wants to take what we already have and make it awesome.
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Posted: May 15th 2007 4:19AM (Unverified) said

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Bungie was making games for mac when microsoft decided to invest in them, just to get rid of games on macOS, steve jobs even had a keynote featuring Halo as a mac game, too bad Microsoft was watching that. prior to that there was this game called Marathon and that was very forgettable as time showed.

About Miyamoto, you can read how they started as arcade game creators, before Nintendo decided t invest in their games. There are tons of pages about his history, and he didn't invent video games, he was one of the pioneers of the 8-bit, which gave birth to a whole next gen of gamers, that didn't liked pacman anymore...
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Posted: May 15th 2007 4:26AM (Unverified) said

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Besides, answering Miyamoto's opinion about their unoriginal game, with "we could copy your game anyday if we wanted to" is pretty shitty. So now they will copy Mario Bros? I wonder what the "X button" will do???
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Posted: May 16th 2007 9:29AM (Unverified) said

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The guy is just a moron... He's a writer, the only thing he can criticize about is the story. They shouldn't even be asking him some of those questions... Jesus
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Posted: May 17th 2007 1:50AM (Unverified) said

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I thought it was an interesting article. Unfortunately, I seem to be the only one here who doesn't really know or *care* who Miyamoto is- which I find to be a shame, because his mention was little different from a footnote; and a 46-post flame-fest really wasn't necessary.

Anyways, Nice article. Personally, I didn't even know the H3 Beta was out... I look forward to seeing the gameplay in RadioShack, and then if it's good, maybe I'll buy an XBox 360.
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