Why would they make another, more expensive PS3, with nothing different about it other than 80gigs versus 60. Is that really significant enough difference for another model? at least the 360 gives you the choice between 20 and 120, but 60 versus 80 just to make a more expensive PS3? I don't get it.

Does this mean Sony is somehow threatened by the 360e? It doesn't make any sense as the Elite model is nothing special.

Sony is a freakin' joke and the PS3 is a sorry sack of cells.

Don't waste your money on this junk.

Here's a couple questions someone will hopefully be able to answer (please don't flame, I'm not attacking, just asking):

Isn't the PS3 hard drive replaceable -- and fairly easily, at that?

Now, I realize that a large percentage of PS3 owners may not have the technical know-how to do so, or even care to, but for those of us that do, would there be a point to purchasing the 80 gig version?

If replacing the hard drive doesn't void the warranty, and the introduction of an 80 gb model means that there is a price drop for the 60 gb model, wouldn't you be better off purchasing the 60 gig and applying that saved money toward a larger (ostensibly larger than the 80 gig included) hard drive? Or would the price drop (not confirmed or detailed as to the amount) probably not be worth that much?

With the PS3 becoming a media hub, a larger hard drive would probably be on the horizon at some point -- especially with the much vaunted 10 year life span of the machine. So I'm just interested in figuring out the thoughts and motivations behind this introduction and pricing structure.

Thoughts?

finally! I wanted a ps3 so badly but 60 gigs just wasn't gonna cut it for me. Now that they're rolling out the 80 gig i can finally play beyond

"Don't waste your money on this junk."
I think 360 is more of a junk as its failure rate has demonstrated.

well instied of burying all the 20gb playstations in new mexico, they're giving them to koreans.

60gb+20gb(from unsold ps3's) = 80gb of another failure

whoa, there's another Jeff in here. Well, if i've learned anything from the movies it's that one of us has to destroy the other.

(other) Jeff,
I would gladly buy a 2nd or 3rd 360 from red ring issues than a ps3. the ps3's junk value comes from it being nothing more than a glorified blu-ray player. Its games either suck or they're on the 360 too and they tend to play better on the 360 as well. There's a reason it's failing

The US isn't going to get a price drop, even if they do phase out the 80gb model. Dropping the price $50 or even $100 isn't going to change their sales position and it's just going to increase their losses.

The 80Gb model is just one PS3 60Gb and a PS3 20Gb duct taped together

Suxx to be Americam/Japanese owner of PS3 [models sold 2006-march 2007 at least] as it has BORKED Blootooth!
Euro and Korean model has FIXED Bluetooth 'disconection of joypads' problem.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=25163
"The filing also included details of proposed changes to the console's Bluetooth feature. But according to the SCEE spokesperson, "The chassis of the 80GB Korean PlayStation 3 is identical to the chassis of the European version. The only exception is the larger hard drive.""

Only new models of PS3 in USA have fixed antenna:
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/03/ps3pdf.jpg

@11. Exactly.

Lets copy the Nintendo guys.

Sony Defense Team Unite!

Ohhhh crap! Im the only Sony fan here on joystiq in the mornings! Damn

Anonim

That makes me mad. I hope they fix the controllers with a system update. I hate it with your fighting someone then all of a sudden can move.

So...why 80?

"9. whoa, there's another Jeff in here. Well, if i've learned anything from the movies it's that one of us has to destroy the other.

(other) Jeff,
I would gladly buy a 2nd or 3rd 360 from red ring issues than a ps3. the ps3's junk value comes from it being nothing more than a glorified blu-ray player. Its games either suck or they're on the 360 too and they tend to play better on the 360 as well. There's a reason it's failing"

Wow.. so you rather spend $1200 over $600? Crazy man. And I love how people forget Decemeber 2005 to March 2006, where the 360 selection was very limited too. Wait till Holiday Season 07 when all three consoles will have their lineup at full blast. You can not compare 18 months to six months.

"Ohhhh crap! Im the only Sony fan here on joystiq in the mornings! Damn"

That's because you're the only Sony fan who has an actual job.

DISS!

sam

lol

seems like a pointless upgrade, but we dont know if there is more stuff added or not. if its just an extra 20gb of storage space, its not really a big deal.

If I were making the desicions at Sony, this is how I'd position the 80gb PS3...
at $500, competing directly with the 360 Elite. It makes it comparable directly to the Elite pricewise, has more features than the Elite, and at 80gb eliminates the "twice the HD space" line that could be thrown out by MS and their fans as a positive of the Elite, which is the main reason I see for the 80gb unit to even exist. 20gb may not seem like much, but getting rid of that point alone is why I see it happening.

Anybody want to answer my questions cogently, instead of just immediately saying, "OMG!!1! $ony is teh suXZ0Rz!!lolokbaihehehehe!"

...Bueller?

Sorry, looks like I got some responses in the time it took me to write that last post.

Apologies!

Some things to note...

Korea is NOT getting a 60GB version. You know what this means, right? The 60GB is being phased out in favor of 80GB. In Korea at least.

@Hoop

"Isn't the PS3 hard drive replaceable -- and fairly easily, at that?"

Actually, yeah. Just buy a 2.5" SATA HD of your choice (most sites have em listed under Laptop/Notebook Hard Drives), open up the HDD bay of your PS3, swap out the drives, and power back on your PS3. The system will automatically detect the new HD and format it to PS3 specs. Like all HD formats, though, it will take a while.

As if any Koreans still want a PlayStation 3 now that StarCraft 2 has been announced :s

this might be a good thing if it were a replacement for the 60gb model. like what apple did with the video ipod went from 60 to 80. but a another model kind of a dumb move.

It seems to me that this might be a way for Sony to keep their machine top-of-the-line while also "price-cutting." Every few months you release an upgraded PS3. If it costs them an extra $5-10 for the large hard drive (I don't know how much the difference would be in such bulk), but in the meantime they have cut their PS3 costs by $20 via improved efficiency/lower components costs, then they can keep the price at $600, lose a little less money, but also give customers additional reasons to purchase.

Some of you are pretty thick.

The only reason a move to 80 GB is??????


The manufacturer they get the drives from no longer makes 60 GB drives. And they cost the same or less than 60 GB. It is the smallest drive that they can get volume discounts on.
On newegg.com, the smallest laptop drive I can find is a 40GB. An 80 is 15 dollars more and is faster.

yeah, This is 100% due to the price of a 60GB hard drive is going to be more expensive then a 20GB. just like buying a 60GB 3.5 IDE drive at your local electronics store costs the same as a 300GB one.

(Last time I was at Futureshop they had a 60GB drive for "on sale" for 69.99 and beside that a 350GB for 89.99

Q: How many Koreans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Doesn't matter because they're all too busy playing StarCraft!

I use this as a projection as to how much Koreans care about the PS3, and all consoles for that matter.

Matt B hit the nail on the head. Sony is doing this to CUT COSTS. I bet that now they can get 80GB HDs for less than they got 60GBs at launch.

"Wow.. so you rather spend $1200 over $600? Crazy man. And I love how people forget Decemeber 2005 to March 2006, where the 360 selection was very limited too. Wait till Holiday Season 07 when all three consoles will have their lineup at full blast. You can not compare 18 months to six months."

Um, I'm on my 4th 360. And I didnt have to pay for shipping OR repair on the other 3. Thats what warantees are for. And you can tell being on my 4th that the 360 is worth it, unlike the PS3.

Now go kill yourself for being stupid.

Lol @ Matt B...trying to make a point based on his discovery from newegg.

Koreans seem to love the PSP...

Mainly why consoles have never been embraced in South Korea is because all the manufacturers have treated the region worse than Europe and Australia. PC gaming is strong there because, well, the market acknowledges them. Sony took the first important steps but until other companies treat the region as a viable market, consoles will remain second fiddle to PC there. I mean, hell, evidence? Korea just got their first taste of Nintendo DS in the form of DS Lite as of January 18th... OF THIS YEAR! They never got the original console.

If that doesn't illustrate companies sheer unwillingness to work in that market, what does?

@1. It's cheaper buddy. Look at the price. I think the main reason is they got a good deal on 80gb hard drives when they ordered like 5 million of them or something, and probably couldn't get a 60 gb (since the technology is old and kinda outdated) without spending a lot extra.

Ugh. There's nothing worse than PlayStation fanboys who come on here and actually use the phrase "Play Beyond." Yeah, go try to play beyond the knowledge that the system is still nothing more than an overpriced toy whose biggest claim to fame is trying to cure diseases while collecting dust. Good job.

konajinx, I think the first "Jeff" was being sarcastic when he said that.

if that blutooth hardware revision thing is true, Sony better send me a new PS3.

there is NO excuse for wireless controllers dropping out in 2007. much less on a $600 machine.


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In response to Polly # 16:

Becuz 80 R big!

Um, I'm on my 4th 360. And you can tell being on my 4th that the 360 is worth it, unlike the PS3.


enjoy your 360lemon....

Wait... did somebody actually just use the fact that they've had 3 defective 360's as an argument in -favor- of the XBox?

"Wait... did somebody actually just use the fact that they've had 3 defective 360's as an argument in -favor- of the XBox?"

I was thinking the same thing. like what happens when the warranty is up?

It's an argument because a ton of people would rather get 100 360s replaced for free and still end up with a kickass system with lots of games than purchase 1 PS3 and be pissed that you're still not playing any games worth a crap on it.

There comes a point when fanboy self-delusion goes beyond a mere art form and turns into something almost... mythical.

Sir, I salute you!

my PS3 is rock solid. i know this because its been folding for over a month straight. key word = folding.



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REP96st... You sort of owned yourself in that 'rebuttal' post #32.

...especially in response to such a logical post. Maybe you just get so excited about saying 'Now go kill yourself for being so stupid' to someone that you don't even read what they wrote.

@46

lol Man owning yourself, that must take uber skill...

... The internets go to REP96st for owning himself

The plethora of idiots that comment on this site is staggering. Sony has a PS3 hard drive upgrade manual on their site. Its not hard, they tell you what type of drive to buy and how to change it with diagrams.

As for joypad disconnect issues? Never had one and I've had my PS3 for 3 months now. Sure there are going to be units with problems, you 360 fanboys should be familiar with this.

20gbs more isn't that large of a change. A 200gb or 150gb may be in my future if/when its necessary.

I find it humorous that so many can't enjoy their own system choice without bashing on the 'other' system.

Live and let live, enjoy your purchase for its reasons, let others do the same you dickless tards.

"As for joypad disconnect issues? Never had one and I've had my PS3 for 3 months now. "

Just out of curiousity, how many wireless networks are detectable by your system? Mine finds between 14-16 each time. Based upon the traffic over those signals, I get more or less disconnects. I can go full on months without issues but then on monday night, in particular, I can lose signal several times in one night. Only time it really sucks is when you are having a super heated match on VF5. We only had disconnect there once out of the 100+ hours we've put into that game.