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Posted: May 29th 2007 2:20PM (Unverified) said

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Good for you Adam. Good luck on the recovery.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:27PM (Unverified) said

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Let's look at another way this story could have gone. "Woman is SHOT getting robbed and gamer watches on." So, should he have waited just to see if maybe they pulled the trigger? Or should he take action and hope to save a life, even loosing his own?

I pity you pussies on here who wouldn't take action to help another human being in a situation like that. He is a true hero and unfortunately very rare.

Way to go Adam! I hope you are up and going soon.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:29PM (Unverified) said

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Wow I've never heard of anything like this! Guy gets into a boss battle unarmed and gets critically wounded and then the boss flees? No gold, no experience, but he actually saved the damsel? What a sick plot twist.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:30PM Neebs said

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Every CSS player knows chest shots don't do any damage! A speedy recovery for him!

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:41PM (Unverified) said

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hospital??? All he needs is a medipack.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:44PM Altairio said

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@Grant
"if you saw someone being held at gunpoint and hand the opportunity to surprise them you wouldn't?
I'm sorry to say this, but that makes you a coward."

Feel better now? Sorry if I don't take your advice, but if I'm unarmed and have to tackle TWO GUYS WITH GUNS to try and disarm them, I think I'd rather let them have the cashbox rather than risk getting myself or someone else shot. Chances are one of them is going to take you out while wrestling with the other, unless you're Bruce-fuckin-Lee. It's just money. Guess that makes me a coward.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:44PM (Unverified) said

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Euro's act much different around guns than Americans also. I have a brother-in-law from Ireland and some dude had a piece on his belt here in Arizona, and he looked at me and said "Jesus that guy had a Fu*#ing GUN!" I was like yeah, it's legal. So dude does have balls in a country were the cops dont carry guns

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:55PM (Unverified) said

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I can't believe i am reading so many comments trying to paint this man a moron. This man is a hero, through and through. He acted selflessly without hesitation, and that my friend, is a fsking hero.

Wouldn't you risk your life to save another if it seemed they were in mortal danger? No?

Someone is about to kill you because you didn't have money to give, there is no one around save for a few people ignoring your plight. What do you wish would happen at that point? Thought so.

Adam, get well soon mate. The world needs more people like you.

For all the gamers hatin on a brotha, WE ARE GAMERS! We gotta stick together, help our own!

LMOA @ Achievement Unlocked:
250G Security guard rescued.

p.s. Wii60 FTW :P

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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*Options*

1. Stay put and don't put yourself in situation that could make things worst and let the robbers take money from lady.

2. Go fight the guys like you are superman acting like you can take a bullet in the eye without finching and end up dead or injured over money.

Option 1 is the best, hero. Sometimes people mistake courage for stupidity.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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"I pity you pussies on here who wouldn't take action to help another human being in a situation like that. He is a true hero and unfortunately very rare."

Perhaps the fact that I wouldn't attempt to tackle two armed men instead of simply phoning the police makes me a pussy, but the fact that you (supposedly) WOULD just makes you an idiot.

Now if I had a fire flower, it might be a different story.

Posted: May 29th 2007 2:52PM (Unverified) said

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(above comment directed at 'MrKniceGuy')

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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All this guy did was get shot. Those robbers were just wanted the money and they were on thier way. This guy acted foolish by jumping "two" armed men. He got shot because he startled the robbers.

"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight" or barefist.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:11PM (Unverified) said

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The guy may have been brave to tackle the gunman, but he was foolish. In a situation like that it is far better to leave the gunmen in control and just do as they say. Your money and the money of the bank is insured and you're only going to get yourself and/or other people injured or worse if you try and aggravate things. It's lucky the guy wasn't killed. (Oh BTW Georgio, they weren't about to kill anyone - that's the last thing an unprovoked robber would do.)

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:13PM (Unverified) said

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There is a fine line between a Hero and a Dumbass.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:13PM Altairio said

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Georgio, if the gun had gone off in the struggle and killed the security guard or some other civilian, you and everyone in this thread would be singing a different tune.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:16PM (Unverified) said

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I say this when video games are blamed for causing some sort of tragedy, and I suppose it applies here, too.

Why is it that you all think that video games HAD to influence his actions? Couldn't it be entirely possible that he thought. "Oh my God, a robbery! I should do something!" I've heard of people doing stupider things on impulse. Pinning a title such as "gamer" (or any other title, for that matter) and trying to use their lifestyle/hobby as an explaination for their actions detracts from what should be the actual message of the story.

"Brave 24 year old man shot while saving robbery victim."

In any case, I hope everything turns out ok. That's an incredibly courageous thing for anyone to do, and I imagine someone like that doesn't deserve to die so soon.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:31PM sand0789 said

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The fact of the matter is he put the security officer in more danger by charging the men. If they hadn't shot the guard yet, they weren't going to. But once he charges and bullets fly, him, the guard, or Joe Blow down the street are all in danger.

He is a hero for acting selflessly and an idiot for almost getting someone killed. But don't lose the bottom line of the story that the real dumbasses were the armed thieves. Hopefully they get to prison safely.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:58PM (Unverified) said

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If Densha Otoko wasn't true before, it is now.

Also, to everyone saying that he was an idiot, if he stodd there and did nothing, what would you think of him. Something tells me it would be along teh lines of "What a coward, letting the woman get robbed like that." He did the right thing, just stop complaining.

Posted: May 29th 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not saying this guy isn't a hero. He certainly has a measure of courage. I just question his judgement.

I find in interesting to see that some commentors are painting those who call this good samaritan "stupid" or "foolish" as cowards. That isn't the case at all. I, for one, am a U.S. Marine. You can stand on a soapbox calling me a coward to anyone who'll listen if you want to--I risked my life to give you that freedom--but I'm no coward. I'm more than willing to die for the right reasons. But I'm not stupid.

Even a man with courage needs to assess the situation, and weigh the risks against the consequences. In this case, the smart thing to do would have been to call the police. By rushing these two robbers, this young man got himself shot and further endangered the first victim. She was more likely to be shot because of his actions than because of the inital robbery attempt. She's very lucky to have escaped this tragedy without a few extra holes in her body. His actions, while most likely selfless and heroic, were a mistake.

I think most military and law-enforcement types would agree with me. Please don't make the mistake of confusing good judgement with cowardice.

Posted: May 29th 2007 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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Get well soon!

Posted: May 29th 2007 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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Very good post, Lion. That's exactly right.

And for those of you who still have doubts, know that any police officer you ask will tell you that the way to react is by giving them a call. Heroics like those of this man just put everyone in more danger.

Ever hear the phrase "Don't be a hero."? Well this situation is exactly what that's about.

Posted: May 29th 2007 4:52PM LaughingTarget said

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Calling the police would have been useless. Britain isn't well known for having a quality response time and if they did show up, they're also known for not being armed (hence the brazen daylight armed robbery). You'd just have some police with billy clubs show up a half hour too late to do anything. One way or the other, this would have ended badly. Britain is not the place to live if you want to get out of an assault situation in a positive light, just too much working against the victim.

Police in the US are usually advocates of concealed weaponry, so the "don't be a hero" line isn't true and normally comes from the movies.

Posted: May 29th 2007 5:17PM sand0789 said

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He made the situation more dangerous through his actions. He got himself badly injured. I am impressed by his bravery. Right or wrong, he put himself in harms way to fight for an innocent person against armed thugs. But to the children at home, charging armed robbers without even possessing a club is foolish and puts everyone in more danger.

And you are not a coward for not charging two armed robbers. You can yell at them from a safe position with an escape route. You can call the cops. Bum rushing them is so very dangerous. What if they'd have killed him for rushing and killed the guard and a bystander with their stray, panic fired bullets? They weren't going to shoot the guard in this situation. His rushing them would only make them more likely to shoot the guard. Seriously, you can surprise tackle one guy and beat his ass. But if there is another one it doesn't take a genious to figure out that you have no chance of getting them both unless you have a sword or a mean jumpkick.

Posted: May 29th 2007 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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Awesome! Great job, man! I wish you a speedy recovery, and bravo to your guts and strength!

Posted: May 29th 2007 5:49PM (Unverified) said

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Mega Dude X
I heard the news report on BBC, and his father who read the brief statement about his son, made it a key point to state that he was an in his own words an "avid gamer and heavy rock metal fan"

The fact that he is a gamer is I agree with you, irrelevant, but his father felt that this was one of those key points that made his son what he was, and therefore stated it about him to news crew. His father seems to think it was a key point about his sons personality that made him carry out this brave act, any other conclusions based from that is purely guesses.

Personally I think the man is highly brave, and a damn hero. None of you in this thread criticizing him know exactly what the people doing the robbery was thinking or doing. He was there, not you, and he made the decision that he felt was the best at the time during a highly pressurized situatiob WHICH DID save a life, would she have been safe even if he did nothing and left them alone? I and you DONT KNOW, but the actions he did take did save her, thats a fact. So stop your bitching. If you were the one who just saved someones life i'm sure you wouldn't want people saying how stupid you
were.

Also I love how some of you seem to know that the robbers were never planning to kill anyone, because you know exactly what they were thinking don't you ? and all robbers have the same motives and ways of executing their plans don't they?

Also here is another thing calling the police is not some full proof plan that everything would be okay, thats not even a good argument idiots, because calling the police would have only heightened the situation because now the bank robbers would be surrounded with not much options left for them but to use but the hostages as means of guaranteeing their safety, which could lead to them killing some people as proof that they were serious, and I would also like to know how you are going to call the police in the middle of a bank robbery and the criminals not know what you were doing.

Posted: May 29th 2007 6:05PM (Unverified) said

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"Police in the US are usually advocates of concealed weaponry, so the "don't be a hero" line isn't true and normally comes from the movies."

THAT'S a load of bull, my friend. I'm telling you, ask any police officer what you should do in a situation such as this. They will tell you to contact authorities and let them handle it, rather than putting yourself and others in harm's way.

Posted: May 29th 2007 6:20PM Bluebrake said

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"There is a fine line between a Hero and a Dumbass."
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And it's easy to spot that line after the fact, sitting in your chair an ocean away.

As it turns out, what he did probably wasn't the best choice, but he didn't have the luxury of pondering over hypotheticals. He made the decision he had to in the heat of the moment, and he's one brave son of a bitch for doing it.

It's never "rational" to risk your life to help somebody else. That doesn't mean it isn't commendable.

Posted: May 29th 2007 6:39PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think you can have it both ways. Now that this has been posted and attention has been called to it, we have no right to complain when someone else posts something about someone doing something horrible--and oh yeah, they play games too. We fault the media (and Jack) for making a mountain out of a molehill, when we're doing the exact same thing right now. Imagine if the headline were "Gamer robs and shoots his victim". Our first response would be, "Well he was crazy anyway, games were not a factor."

I hope the irony was not lost on anyone else.

But in any case, pretty badass what the guy did and I hope he pulls through.

Posted: May 29th 2007 6:45PM (Unverified) said

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I tip the proverbial cap to you.

Get well soon on behalf of me and the NDF.

Posted: May 29th 2007 6:55PM Bluebrake said

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@77

I don't think anybody was saying he did this because he's a gamer. The point is just that it shows not all gamers are violent sociopaths. This is literally the stereotype Jack Thompson is promoting, and so incidents like this are a real defense.

Posted: May 29th 2007 7:04PM (Unverified) said

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The NDF (and everyone else) could use more heroes like you sir. Never stop fighting for justice, games, and heavy rock metal music, and may your battle damage get you loads of ass.

Posted: May 29th 2007 9:00PM (Unverified) said

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@79

I'm not saying that people are saying he did this BECAUSE he's a gamer, I'm saying that people are making this into a factor of why he did it. I think that's what the media in general (excluding JT and a handful of others) are saying, that while gaming is not the cause, it seems to be a factor to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the media's position on video games. I'm just saying this is slightly hypocritical.

Posted: May 30th 2007 3:00AM (Unverified) said

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Good to hear about someone helping someone, world would be a better place with a little more of that. Sure you got shot but some people don't even help old people with heavy bags, so something extreme was needed to get society as a whole cough up in the karma bank. Nice to see chivalry isn't dead :). Good luck and god speed on the recovery.


And to open a whole new can of worms... In Texas someone would have just shot said robber, and then beaten and robbed him for giving a woman a hard time :).

Posted: May 30th 2007 11:05AM (Unverified) said

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wow, aren't guns illiegal in the UK? Howw could this have EVER happened? And really, isn't an unarmed security guard just a fanciliy dressed truck driver? You know the difference between hero and dumbass as it applies to this situation? Concealed carry laws.

Posted: Jun 1st 2007 5:59PM (Unverified) said

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Hope the guy recovers soon, rare to see ppl like this.

Posted: Jun 3rd 2007 9:25AM EechuTah said

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Wow! This guy is the real hero! I hope those damn robbers get their asses kicked! I hate people like that. They have no rreason for living. Robbers suck balls! All of them!

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