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Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:21AM (Unverified) said

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After reading through the comments here I think I can honestly say I hate fanboys. It's weird you only see them on the internet or among friends but out in the wild they're hiding.

Ah forget it, you guys convinced me!

The PS3 is an over-priced train-wreck.

The only reason the 360 has sold so much is because of its faulty hardware. I'm on my tenth one and my friends are at least on their 8th or 9th by now.

The Wii is a total gimmick that will wear off in 6 months, if it doesn't, extend that prediction another six months.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 6:13AM (Unverified) said

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I'm surprised nobody could figure out the business behind this decision.

Firstly, Final Fantasy franchise is not coming to the 360 is most definitely an agreement between Sony and Squenix. Sony cannot afford to lose that franchise and I'm pretty sure they will sacrifice herds of goats just to keep it away from the 360.

Secondly, to step around this problem, Squenix created the Last Remnant franchise. This allows them to publish for 360 consoles and tap into that market without stepping on Sony's toes

Either ways Squenix wins. Sony gets their FF, and Last Remnant VII on the xbox99999 will be the best game ever in 2017.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 6:45AM (Unverified) said

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lol it's soooo funny....xbox fanboys typically saying ........ we didn't want it so there!!! XD

So typical........and comparing it with HALO??? wtf?

Even if this game did get released on the 360....what a waste it would be......absolutely no fan base for the game at all on the 360 (Am I wrong?) Same with DMC4....it's gonna do seriously crap on the 360..... :/

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:42PM (Unverified) said

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Screw Square-Enix and all the other Japanese developers that choose (for no reason I can figure out) not to support Xbox 360.
This is complete bias, and they deserve NOT to get our millions of hard earned scratch.
These turn-based RPG's are antiquated anyway. Give me Action-RPG's like Oblivion or Fable anyday over this crap.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:15PM (Unverified) said

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Okay this just proves how weak minded people are. How many of you read it yourself and realized it was a opinion of the story writer? If it meant there was not going to be a 360 game they would not say it was a blank page. Heck I heard stronger insinuating words for assasins creed, mgs3, vf5,blah blah blah which turned out to come out for the xbox or xbox360. Bottom line is a company will not make a hint for you to draw your own conclusions with they will say. No 360 games for this generation. Blank page? That page could be filled and they will remind you of there words when you say 'I thought you said no 360 games'. Then they will make you look stupid. Just like MGS3. Just like Assasins creed. The fact they are insinuating instead of saying it tells me they just dont want to piss of the ps3 fanbase.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 7:51AM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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Has is ever occured to some of you upset fanboys that while the install base may be bigger in America, it sucks in Japan, and as Japanese are the biggest buyers of RPG games such as these, wouldn't it be best to push the game on consoles within that region that actually matter?

Not only that, 360 is too much work, look at GTA, they can't do everything they want simply because of the messy way Xbox is presented, not everyone has a harddrive, not everyone has a Hd-dvd player, its inconsistant, this will be a major turning point for many games such as MGS and FF and GTA. It is only a matter of time before developers realise that it is pointless porting a game over to the other console because the game becomes limited or crappy on one or the other console.

Stop your whining and face facts, Square may decide to make future titles for 360, you fanboys slating Enix are as iddiotic and single minded as those PS3 fanboys who hated on Capcom and Gear of war dev (can't remember bloody name) because of thier support of Microsoft or the 360 fans that now hate Tecmo for making Ninja Gaiden Sigma exclusive. Thats horrendously childish, quite frankly its iddiots like you that would turn a dev off of making a game for another console simply because you slate them. If I were Square Enix and happened to see you lots comments, even if I had a game in mind for 360, I'd simply change my mind and say its not worth it. How is it okay for a business to support 360 or PS3 and have no rights to support another console without getting slated? Why don't you iddiots try getting a job as a bloody dev then, lets see the trash load of crap you spill out onto us.

If you look at the sales of RPGs in America compared to Japan and which consoles achieve, logic explains the reasoning for this current choice. Thats like getting upset because a DS game isn't on PSP, why do you think that is?

You know what, its pointless reasoning with fanboys ¬_¬ No amount of logical explaination will ever penetrate thier minature brains.

Meh, PS3 needs all the exclusives it can get, Square and Sony have always had a good relationship, besides, Square made it quite clear that they did not want an unbalanced Console Generation, they said they would help to push the underdog, and thats what they are doing. I think its an eye for an eye situatuation, Sony promotes Square's stuff via PSP etc and publishes the movies, so Square does a favour back. Its like Namco and Konami sadly or fortunatly enough. Unfortunatly or fortunatly Capcom and Atari were never on that boat, and as for Gears of war creators, they had no links with Sony anyhow, they got thier popularity from PC games. Notice that all those devs that had a link with Sony are sticking by Sony no matter what, while those that didn't really have a link and only needed to sell games are jumping shift or going multiplat. Even Rockstar who had a great link with Sony likes the attention and cash multiplatform games bring in.

I'm sorry upset and angry Xbox fans, but I seriously doubt Square much cares if you don't like them anymore or throw a tantrum, the Japanese are highly anticipating this game regardless of what console it is on, no doubt it will push PS3 sales, in the UK and Japan anyway.

Anyway, thats enough from me, feel free to comment ¬_¬

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 8:26AM sand0789 said

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To be honest, I wish it would have came to 360. I already own one of those and I feel less and less inclined to get a PS3 every day (well, until it hits $200 maybe). I'm a fan of the franchise and would have liked to play it.

With that said, I'm not to concerned. I passed on FFXII. I got bored before completing FFX. I am more looking forward to more original RPG's. Sure, FF games are a pretty sure bet. But, the same thing is only fun for so long.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 8:47AM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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When you purchase a console, you are basically agreeing to some invisible terms and conditions that you will play what is available on that console and not get upset about it, if a game goes to another console, you have two choices, buy the console to get that game, or don't buy that console, shut up and deal with it, besides 360 already has Blue Dragon, Gears and Halo what do you need FF for?

You don't see me shouting at Nintendo for not releasing Smash Brothers on PS3, PC or Xbox, its thier game :S And as those businesses that choose to sell a game on it, its thier choice.

I am one of the many that happens to enjoy playing FF, and I look forward to playing it on PS3, personally I think Square's descision to not port this game is great, it means they can concentrate on it more, push the PS3 to the max and show us just how great an RPG can be. I really believe that had FF13 been ported it would only have been 50% as good as it could have been. Rockstar is really only making GTA4 half as good as it could have been which is a shame that game went mulitplatform as it would have been massive and yet superb had it stayed exclusive to PS3 due to the 100% certainty that all PS3 owners have the same thing, not this one with a Hd-dvd player this one without, this one with a Hardrive, this one without.

Oh well, thumbs up Rockstar, your game will rock whatever the case may be, its games like GTA that demean the reason for me to ever bother with the likes of Halo.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 8:52AM (Unverified) said

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According to some guy from Ubisoft I read about it costs 10% of a game's budget to port. Surely they would make multuple times that amount back by offering it to what by then should be around a 15 million strong install base, reagardless of whether the vast majority is outwith Japan.

The only logical conclusion is that Sony paid to keep exclusivity And I'm betting they paid a lot.

The only other possible reason I suppose could be that Square thinks that a PS3 dominated market would suit them in the long term and so want to promote the platform over its competitors.

Finally, I think that everybody overestimates the impact on hardware sales that 1 or 2 games can have when said hardware is 600 bucks. Surely there's a relationship between how much hardware sells as a result of a AAA game release and the price of the hardware,ie I'm sure FF would shift far, far more PS3's if they were half the price.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 10:17AM (Unverified) said

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He just said nothing now he didn't say nothing ever.
They even said it's not exclusive.

Oh yeah

"Devil May cry 4 is PS3 EXCLUSIVE"

the poster of this story has no more journalistic integrity.
You're just a Sony fan boy moron

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 9:48AM (Unverified) said

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I'm still waiting for a "NEVER" quote... Otherwise, this game will appear on the 360.

Hashimoto: "As for FF on the Xbox 360, it's currently a completely blank page."

Currently. As in not today. Maybe not this year, or next even... Does anyone have a link to somebody saying "it will NEVER appear on 360" ?

Didn't think so...

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 9:57AM deaftly said

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i was done with final fantasy after 7 , the series went to total shit after that

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 10:00AM (Unverified) said

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"MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, Killzone, Socom, Lair, Heavenly Sword, God of War 3 (when it gets announced), Rachet and Clank, Uncharted, Socom, Warhawk..."

I hate to break it to you, but with the exception of GoW3 (even though it doesn't count because it hasn't been announced), NONE of those games are really system sellers.
That includes MGS4, arguably.

Those games will all, no doubt, sell great to people who already won a PS3, though.
...except LBP. That one's gonna to flop so hard because it has "GAAAAAY KIDDIE GRAFIX!"

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 10:37AM Vidikron said

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@109

All those games are system sellers depending on who you are. Some have more system moving power than others, but all good games sell systems. In fact, I'd say most people buy systems for a set of exclusives and not any one single game. Those games listed are part of the PS3 exclusives and are reasons why people will by the PS3.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 10:39AM ummhello said

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huh....well, I'm excited that maybe my $600 doorstop will get a game that's (for now) exclusive that I REALLY REALLY want!!! so, uh....when is this game coming out again? 2009? obviously there's other games out there, but as someone else mentioned, FFXIII is going to be a true console seller...(especially in Japan).

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 11:18AM darkintragedy said

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Some of you guys should learn to read.
The 'blank page' statement refers to the FF franchise, not other IPs.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 12:13PM arrrgh said

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FF VI ftw

VII+ all paled compared to the glory days

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 12:24PM (Unverified) said

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"All those games are system sellers depending on who you are. Some have more system moving power than others, but all good games sell systems. In fact, I'd say most people buy systems for a set of exclusives and not any one single game. Those games listed are part of the PS3 exclusives and are reasons why people will by the PS3."

Well, no. Not really. If you want to go down the whole, "If it sells a system to just ONE person, it's a system seller" alley, you can...and I certianly can't argue against that. But I think that when we talk about "system sellers", we're talking about games with MASS appeal.

Sure, it's true that for a FEW people, SOCOM or Ratchet & Clank will be the game that makes them say, "A new ______ on the PS3?! SOLD!"
New franchises have it even harder. If something like Lair gets below an 8.0 score, don't expect it to sell even to the hardcore crowd.

More often than not, those kinds of games are like icing on the cake.
For most people, there still has to be at least ONE game that is SO good that it justifies buying the system. In the past this has been games like Tomb Raider, FFVII, GTA3, God of War...or Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, SSBM, Halo, Gears of War, etc.
But a bunch of mediocre-to-pretty good games aren't going to sell any consoles to most people.

Not many people are BUYING the Wii for Mario Party 8, for example. They're buying it for Wii Sports, Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros. Mario Party 8 is just bonus.

Sony's best hope is GTA4. And while we'll find out soon enough how much the GTA games are REALLY worth to people...but it seems like people are writing that game off as a victory for MS.
But, like Final Fantasy, when you say, "Grand Theft Auto", most people think, "Playstation", I bet. I wouldn't be surprised if GTA4 sold more PS3's than 360s.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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360 only has Halo 3...arguably(that wills sell systems).

I really don't think Halo 3 will even really sell systems. Sure it might be one of the best games available, but Nintendo and Sony (yeah SONY) have better lineups IMO. Just like it didn't matter 3 years ago, it won't matter now. Halo will sell like crazy, but it won't sell the 360.

and for everyone saying "oh well Lair, Heavenly Sword aren't AAA titles" you are stupid.

Halo wasn't a AAA title either for a while. Old AAA's die off (see crash bandicoot, syphon filter ect.) and new ones come in (halo, god of war). We are already seeing some of the new ones for this generation (Gears of War), but haven't even gotten close to the rest of the AAA lineup. Why? Because nobody knows what they are yet, over time they get good reviews, which makes god hype, which sells game, and in some rare...very rare circumstances sells systems.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 12:44PM (Unverified) said

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You xbox fanboys are pathetic...

The fact that some of you guys are still trying to twist his words around to make it as if it is coming to the 360 is a joke.

Get over it. IT IS NOT COMING TO THE 360...

ONLY PS3!

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 1:11PM (Unverified) said

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After the experimentation with the Vagrant Story/
Final Fantasy Tactics mash up that was FFXII, I think Square lost a few fans judging by the sales figures. The one dimensional characters and plot were a huge letdown compared to the previous half dozen games in the series, so they need to need to rediscover the "emotion engine" in the next game to keep this series from becoming a relic.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 1:22PM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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Samfish, I hope your nickname does not portray your brain power in any form or manner, thats the most stupid comment I have heard in a while, a system shifter is a game that many people will enjoy playing, regardless of if it is Little Big Planet or Halo, for people such as I, those games you call none system sellers are rather appealling to a person such as I with only Wii and a PC, if your idea of a system seller is GTA of Halo, then it just goes to show that you are not buying the games you enjoy, you are either just following the rest of the sheep because they have the game for the sake of having it like many gamers I know who bought Halo or GTA just to say they have it but yet ditch the games after a month claiming its getting boring, or it wasn't really all that or you are a dev arse licker who buys a game just because apparently its the best game on a console.

Like Vidikron said, you buy the console with the games that appeal to you, not the one that has the supposedly cool games, if that is your idea of gaming, then you are truly blinded, you need to take off those sunglasses because you can't see a thing mate.

Has it ever occured to you that most gamers have already bought their 360 knowing full well Halo 3 is coming out, its stupid to wait till Halo releases to buy the console, why not just buy it before hand? So in return to your rather daft comment, most potential Halo 3 buyers already have 360, most potential GTA gamers already have either of the two and most potential Metroid buyers such as I already have Wii. So what point exactly are you trying to raise? Because if you are talking about system sellers the way I think you are, then not even 360 games can compete with the reception Wii has gotten, I doubt even the so called almight Halo 3 will be able to persuade casuals, non gamers and those who don't enjoy FPS into taking a sniff at the CD case, they would be too preoccupied with the great games available on Wii, heck even GTA4 has more going for it and its not even exclusive, so remind me, just what exactly are you getting at?

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 1:26PM (Unverified) said

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XBOX 360 is the Suxk0rs!! THE CONSOLE IS DOOMED!!!

There does that make you beyond stupid wastes of skin that are PS3tards happy???

Who gives a flying fluck about any stupid FF game! They can keep it. I never liked the games, never liked the whole boys that look like girls homo thing.. I would never in a million years trade the games coming to the 360 like Mass Effect for anything the hot dog cooking, over glorified Blu-ray player has to offer..

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 2:00PM Vidikron said

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@samfish

But how many times have you heard people say, "That game isn't worth $650!" or something similar? Implying that any one game doesn't make a system. IMO, that is the way most people think. I'm sure there are a few very hardcore fans that would buy the 360 if Halo 3 was the only game ever available or a PS3 just for FFXIII, but most people wouldn't.

IMO, most people buy based on group of games they want. Sure, most 360 owners are probably looking forward to Halo 3, but what else do they want? Same with the PS3. I'm sure many people want FFXIII and/or GT5, but I doubt most will drop $500-600 just for those games alone. That's where those other games you claimed aren't system sellers come in. Those are the games that potentially give a system enough value to finally put down the money for a new system. That's all I'm saying... I'm not trying to claim Uncharted or Warhawk will be as popular as FFXIII, but they are just as necessary to move systems.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 2:05PM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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Wait? Whats mass effect? The only time I hear about that game is when I'm on Joystiq, I have never heard of that game in my life :O It has made me curious, I shall go and do some research on it, maybe its an American thing...

SharpBlade, you're a funny guy, you should be a comedian ^^ If you really hated the game that much, you wouldn't be in the comment section tacking time to post and retrive validation just to slag it off, deep down you really like this game, its okay to admit.

*Takes SharpBlade into arms*

Its okay mate, let it all out, express your anger, don't be afraid to cry.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:31PM KiraXD said

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who the hell buys a 360 for its epic RPGs anyways?

I bought my 360 for its FPS.
I bought my PS3 for its (future)RPGs.

Every fanbot on both sides needs to quit whining.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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"IMO, most people buy based on group of games they want. Sure, most 360 owners are probably looking forward to Halo 3, but what else do they want? Same with the PS3. I'm sure many people want FFXIII and/or GT5, but I doubt most will drop $500-600 just for those games alone. That's where those other games you claimed aren't system sellers come in. Those are the games that potentially give a system enough value to finally put down the money for a new system. That's all I'm saying... I'm not trying to claim Uncharted or Warhawk will be as popular as FFXIII, but they are just as necessary to move systems."

And I agree with you. But I don't consider a system seller game to be something you buy just because it'll be a fairly good game.

I'd like to buy a 360, personally. But there aren't any games on it that are worth paying $460 for on it. MAYBE, if it shapes up nicely, Banjo 3. But that's it.
There are, however, games on it that I'd like to play – like Dead Rising, Castle Crashers, Geometry Wars or Oblivion – but I'm not going to drop $460 dollars down for it.
I'm still waiting for a game that makes me take the plunge with the 360. Something that I'm almost GUARANTEED to love.
And when/if I do buy one, I'll surely pick up those other games I mentioned.

Hence, the aforementioned PS3 games are NOT system sellers, in my eyes. Do they factor in to one's decision to purchase a console? Probably! Are those games alone or even combined going to make me buy a PS3? No.
Throw down the BIG guns that you *know* will work and people will take the plunge, though.


And on that note, because Maverick Saturn is a moron, I'm only talking about games that have proven mass appeal. I thought that was clear. NOT what appeals to me.
I have peculiar taste in games that, IMO, probably classifies me as a "hardcore" gamer...IE – someone who plays and is well informed about video games. What I'm arguing about system selling games almost doesn't apply to the 'hardcore' crowd.

*I* bought a Gamecube for Viewtiful Joe. Not a 'system seller', as I defined it.
*I* bought a PS2 for Godhand. A total flop of a game (but the best EVER)
*I* bought a Wii for Zelda...that one actually IS a system seller.


It's entirely possible one of those previously mentioned PS3 titles WILL turn out to be a system selling game. But the historical odds are, they won't be. They'll just appeal to people who already own the PS3.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:08PM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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Sammfish, I still think you're talking garbage, how can you say say the games on PS3 are not system sellers? What gives any gamer the idea to purchase a PS3? What makes PS3 popular in the UK? Do you yourself even know what you are talking about? Yes, the likes of GTA and Halo and Metroid help push sales of a console, but do you think that if Halo was the only game on 360 people would buy 360? You buy a console for a collection of games, not one, one is idiotic. No matter what you say, it sounds more and more like you are purely basing your facts on your own personal opinion, I seriously doubt you have taken many a gamer's desision to buy a console to mind, people complain that they are not buying a PS3 due to the fact there aren't enough great games to support the purchase of the console, notice the key phase in that sentance 'aren't enough' that is not enough proof to say that the games already being produced are of a bad quality or are not worth picking up. Why do you think PS2 sold well, it was due to the fact that it appealled to the mainstream market, there was something for everyone, it wasn't GTA that saved PS2, or God of war that saved PS2 or MGS3 that saved PS2, it was the vast amount of games that appealed to anyone and everyone around the world.

more proof that you are talking out of you backside, what may be your classification of a system seller eg. Halo, is not everyone's classification of a system seller eg. Japan

There are great game on all consoles, there just aren't enough games at the same standard as Resistance or such on PS3 for gamers to choose it over Wii or Xbox. Only an idiot would buy a $400+ console for 3 good games halo stadard and thats it whether or not they are system sellers.

Your idea of gaming is completly different to mine, and I am no less of a gamer then you, except maybe you spend more of your life playing in a virtual world then going out and experiencing the real one around you. Wake up dude.

As for calling me a moron, well no offence taken, I'd be more offended by my little sister. Your statement still lacks any meat because you're basically saying that in order for a console to achieve it has to have that one game that brings people flocking, well I and pretty much everyone I know have always bought the consoles with the games that appeal to us, not the one with the system seller, otherwise I would have been sucked into the Halo crowd despite the fact I do not enjoy FPS titles.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:23PM QuePasa87 said

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i hate turn-based rpg's so its a-okay with me! :D

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:38PM (Unverified) said

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What the Hell? Do...do you just lack reading comprehension, Maverick Saturn?

"Yes, the likes of GTA and Halo and Metroid help push sales of a console, but do you think that if Halo was the only game on 360 people would buy 360? You buy a console for a collection of games, not one, one is idiotic"

I never *SAID* people buy a console for ONE game. I said there is ONE game that pushes people to FINALLY BUY a console.
THOSE games are called SYSTEM SELLERS.
It's like a pinata with money AND candy in it – When you break it open, first you're going to grab the money and THEN you're going to grab the candy.
If you still don't get it, in this case, FFXIII is the MONEY and Lair, SOCOM, R&C and Heavenly Sword are the CANDY.


Secondly, WHO is talking out of their ass again?
First you said this:
"No matter what you say, it sounds more and more like you are purely basing your facts on your own personal opinion, I seriously doubt you have taken many a gamer's desision to buy a console to mind,"

And two paragraphs later you say this:
"well I and pretty much everyone I know have always bought the consoles with the games that appeal to us, not the one with the system seller,"

I'm sorry if you dislike reality, kiddo. But the fact is what I'm saying is pretty much true as can be.
Most people don't plunk down money for a console unless there's a game that they REALLY want for it. Usually that game is anticipated to be very popular, thus MORE people want it than the average game.

Still don't believe what I'm saying? Look at sales trends!
How many more PS2s moved when GTA3 came out?
How many more DSs moved when Nintendogs came out?
How many more PS1s moved when FFVII came out?
How many more Xboxes moved when Halo came out?

Now look at how many PSPs moved when...oh, THAT'S right! There hasn't really BEEN a system seller on the PSP yet! THAT'S why it has such relatively lackluster sales!

STILL don't believe me? Try to get Joystiq to put up a poll! Ask the following:

I intend to buy a PS3 when:
* FFXII comes out
* MGS4 comes out
* Ratchet & Clank 5 comes out
* Lair comes out
* LBP comes out
* SOCOM comes out
* Heavenly Sword comes out
* I don't intend to buy a PS3

In all likelihood, FFXIII comes in first, followed by MGS4 and then who the hell knows.

And if you don't like being called a moron, don't call people stupid.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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IGN needs to get there shit toghether "Square Enix has nothing in the works for the Xbox 360" is just a lie. Read: project sylpheed AND Last Remnant. I'm not saying FF is coming to the 360. At all. But are we really going to believe a news site that makes up stories?

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 7:21PM Maverick Saturn 06 said

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Samfish, all you are doing is regurgitating yourself and changing what you originally said, you said the games 'you took time to mention earlier' were not system sellers and that only people who have PS3 would buy them. Where is your proof of that? Is it simply because you have no desire to buy these games that they have suddenly lost thier novelty to all gamers in the world. Thats speaking for yourself, thats YOUR opinion, theres no proof to back that up, heck, the games aren't even out yet and you're calling them none system sellers, yeah, GTA did shift PS2s but did you take into account the ammount of people who had PS2s before GTA3 released, proof?

GOW was a superb game, wait, how many Xboxes did that shift? God of war was great, wait, how many consoles did that shift, Metroid DS was a great game, wait, how many consoles did that shift, each and every one of these games has a unique audience, your blank opinion that those games are not system sellers and therefore must be crap (which is the idea I am getting from your first comment) is based on no facts, no reasonable point and simply makes no logical sense.

Lets go back to this, seems very biased to me:

"MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, Killzone, Socom, Lair, Heavenly Sword, God of War 3 (when it gets announced), Rachet and Clank, Uncharted, Socom, Warhawk..."

I hate to break it to you, but with the exception of GoW3 (even though it doesn't count because it hasn't been announced), NONE of those games are really system sellers.
That includes MGS4, arguably.

Those games will all, no doubt, sell great to people who already won a PS3, though.
...except LBP. That one's gonna to flop so hard because it has "GAAAAAY KIDDIE GRAFIX!"

First of all the comment is childish I must say, second of all, considering that none of these games have released yet, to say they aren't system sellers leaves me wondering what a system seller is, there are lots of people who purchased a DS for Havest Moon, lots of people who purchased a DS who don't like harvest moon but love Mario, on PS2 there is GTA3, but the is also GOW, Silent Hill, RE4, GT4, I could go on and on, GTA3 is just one more reason to buy the console like any other game, dont say these games aren't system sellers without facts, the potential system seller for me on Xbox wouldn't be Halo, this is just my individual opinion, but its an example, I like racing, so I am more likely to purchase Xbox for Forza and PGR then I am FPS titles. That is my system seller.

By saying these games are not system sellers because they aren't as popular as say GTA is a load of BS. A system seller is basically a game that makes a gamer want to buy the console amongst many other game titles, you said so yourself and I agree, but saying Lair which looks highly attractive had the PS3 been cheaper, Socom which has a large fanbase, you only have to play it online to see, obviously you for one havent, and GOW are not potetial system sellers is basically a point that could not have come out of your mouth as it doesn't make sense.

Either you are being a fanboy which I highly doubt, or you are just being plain biased towards games you feel are inferior are less popular to games that sold more or achieved higher standards. And this is more of an insult to me then your attempt to call me a moron because I would rather be a moron who makes non baised and immature comments then be put into the same bracket as you by you saying that only PS3 gamers will buy those games and that they aren't worth looking at by outsiders of PS3 as they aren't 'supposedly' classified as system sellers.

Word of advice: Think before you type, it always backfires.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 8:29PM (Unverified) said

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MAN, SQUARE ENIX, WHO CARES? FOR REAL! ISN'T IT TIME TO COME UP WITH A NEW FRANCHISE?

Posted: Jun 7th 2007 7:22AM (Unverified) said

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Xbox 360 is the console leader for Role Playing Games.

Xbox 360 has the highest rated version of Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion with all the expansions that aren't found on the Playstation 3 version.

Two Worlds is a game very similar to Elder Scrolls 4, but even better, and it is being released only for PC and Xbox 360 in just a short time.

I personally enjoy Phantasy Star Universe quite a bit on the Xbox 360, and that game isn't found on the Playstation 3.

Final Fantasy 11 is a game on the Xbox 360 right now, and a lot of people really like playing it on Xbox 360.

Take a look at the way Square Enix carefully uses the word "currently" when they talk about Final Fantasy 13 not being in development for Xbox 360. That's the same thing Capcom did with Devil May Cry 4 when they would say DMC4 was only in development for PS3. Now we know Devil May Cry 4 will be released at the same time as the PS3 version for Xbox 360 and PC.

Blue Dragon is a game made by the original creator of Final Fantasy, Mr. Hori Sakaguchi.

Blue Dragon is going to be releases shortly in North America and Europe. Blue Dragon helped the Xbox 360 sell 125,000 systems in Japan in less than two weeks. Blue Dragon is an awesome RPG!

Lost Odyssey is another game made by the original designer of Final Fantasy, and his new company called Mystwalker is going to release that game in just a few months, only for the Xbox 360. That is going to be an amazing RPG game!

Fable 2 is another Xbox 360 Role Playing Game that is going to be absolutely amazing.

Mass Effect was voted the Best Role Playing Game of the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo. Mass Effect will be released this fall only for the Xbox 360!

Xbox 360 is currently the best next-gen console for RPG games. Final Fantasy 13 won't be released in Japan until sometime in 2008, and probably not in North America and Europe until sometime in 2009. That's a long time for Square Enix to announce the game for Xbox 360. We already have Final Fantasy 11 on Xbox 360, and we will see Final Fantasy 13 on Xbox 360.

Posted: Jun 7th 2007 7:42AM (Unverified) said

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I agree with you 100% that the word "currently" used by Square Enix is very important!

Look at all the games that were "Officially" announced as being "Currently in development only for PS3," but were then "Officially announced for the Xbox 360."

Look at just some of these games:

* Assassins Creed
* Devil May Cry 4
* Fight Night Round 3
* Mercs 2
* Unreal Tournament 2007
* Virtua Fighter 5

Just think about how Fight Night Round 3 was originally announced as only a PS3 game, and then it was released first on Xbox 360.

That same thing is going to happen with Unreal Tournament 3. When Unreal Tournament 2007 was renamed Unreal Tournament 3, we found out the Xbox 360 version is going to be released up to six months earlier than the PS3 version!

And look at the way Ace Combat 6 had never been on a home consoler other than the Playstation consoles, but now it isn't even being released for the Playstation 3, because Namco is only releasing Ace Combat 6 for the Xbox 360.

I read that 48 hours before Capcom announced Devil May Cry 4 was going to be released for the PC and Xbox 360 at the same time as the PS3 version, Capcom had said the game was "currently" only in development for PS3. It's interesting the way "currently" is a word that is used "carefully" when a company is actually sending a different message.

We will see Final Fantasy 13 and Metal Gear Solid 4 on the Xbox 360.

LOL, even if we didn't, both of the games have been repeatedly delayed. Metal Gear Solid 4 is now scheduled for spring of 2008, but everyone is right when they say MGS4 will only release during the Holiday shopping season of the 4th quarter of 2008.

And PS3 won't even see Final Fantasy 13 until late 2008 in Japan, and probably 2009 in North America and Europe.

There's no way it's worth spending $600 for a PS3 system, plus $50 for high-definition cables and a headset that don't come with the PS3. And I'm not going to buy a PS3 now just to wait two years to see if those games remain exclusive. Especially since there are so many rumors from reliable sources the games will come to Xbox 360.

Posted: Jun 8th 2007 12:21PM colinisrad said

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Why hasn't anybody said anything about Kingdom Hearts? I want that and MGS4 to come to the 360. Screw FFXIII I've been disappointed by all the past FF games to come out. And I am not a "xbot" it's just I have a life and bought the 360 for three reasons 1. Better Games. 2. Could afford it(I have a life and a job) 3. Live to play with my friends.

Posted: Jun 11th 2007 9:06PM Jiggity said

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Doesn't matter... I want Fable 2.

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