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Posted: Jun 6th 2007 2:54PM (Unverified) said

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Heh,

360 on launch day, death 1 in feb 2006, death 2 in march 2007, death 3 in may 2007 - just got my new box... such is life.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 2:56PM Teabag said

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This is an indirect way of saying "Yes we fucked up" by Microsoft. Way to go rich bastards.

I like the 360 too but reading all this burns me too. MS really need to cut the crap, think about it's customers, forget about the money and do something about it. Its been a year and more and such problem still persists. Shame.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 2:57PM Magic Whiskey said

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Yeah, they really need to just divulge the information to let us really know what's up. It's been well past time for at LEAST a year now.
I'm on my second unit now and upon calling in February for my 360 coffin, it took three calls to actually secure one. The first time the 'servers were down', second time the woman could not finish my order, and the third time was when I actually spoke to someone that spoke fluent English.

After that it was a smooth finish..got the box within three weeks, got my replacement 360 by the middle of March.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:25PM (Unverified) said

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I don't like to bad mouth the 360 either, but I had my first failure a few weeks ago. After calling MS I was told I'd get my box in 3 to 4 business days. After not hearing a word, I called back almost 2 weeks later to find out that they didn't even ship the coffin out for 9 days. That is not good customer service. Hopefully the turnaround will not be that bad.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:07PM (Unverified) said

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I have to say that I've had my 360 since launch (actually a little before, I won it from that Mt. Dew contest) and I've never had a single problem with it.

Something is F'ed up in the production line where they're assembling these things. There are just too many lemons. After getting all these defective 360s back and examining them I think MS should've pinpointed the problem and solved it already.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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I haven't had this happen to me yet. My dvd drive acted up a few days ago...

My friend just exchanged his with Best Buy, and my other buddy has gone through 5 machines.

My question is how is your 360 set up in your house? and are you using a fan for the system?

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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I really doubt that there is any huge increase in the amount of 360's breaking. I have worked in the shipping department for a smallish manufacturing company and we received pallets of shipping materials at least once a week. The Microsoft repair center must use hundreds to thousands of boxes a week. One shipment being late a day or two would cause a shortage. Companies don't have a huge safety margin for things like this, it is expensive to buy materials just to have them sitting around.

That being said, my system is currently waiting for a box and I haven't received it yet so they are supposedly sending out another. Have I been a victim of a material shipping snafu, bad needs projection or a failure in reordering materials? Maybe, mostly I think its just the lousy support and poor communication between the support and repair centers.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:13PM (Unverified) said

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I've never seen a "coffin", as a matter of fact, i thought they were plastic...

Of the 8 cronies that I habitually play with, only one has had his 360 break down, but the timing was right in that he got an Elite and then sold me the refubished unit (once he got it back) which I gave to my buddy that returned from Iraq.

What good would it be to know what the defective rate is? Would you not buy anymore 360s? Wouldn't that stop other people from buying 360s and then MSoft would fold the Xbox department? I bet they never produce those numbers for the public. Not that I care, my 12/05 360 is still running strong. *knock on wood*

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:17PM (Unverified) said

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I am cursed with my 360's I have gone thru 9! yes 9, follow all the stuff they say well ventalated area and so forth, mine however aren't always 3 rings of death my lastest issue is my dvd drive stopped ejecting with my copy of spiderman 3 in it!!! Out of 10 friends of mine that have 360's only 1 has not needed to get theirs replaced yet. In my eyes the failure rate is 87% based on my friends and me. Also we all live throughout the US so theres no way that the failures are area based throughout the US. I still stand strong for my 360 and haven't bought a ps3 "Yet". sigh'

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:17PM (Unverified) said

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In the uk i don't think you get 'coffins'. I had to provide my own box, stick the label on they provided by e-mail and call up ups to collect it. i think that is the uk standard.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:20PM (Unverified) said

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If you lived in a place where you couldn't use the company's support, you'd find your own way to fix it. That's what people have been doing here in Brazil. I had a 3RL xbox and it's been ok for 3 months already. It's a easy procedure, and I've did it myself.

There are a couple of online tutorials (in portuguese) that show how to do that using just some erasures pieces under a memory chip.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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Here's my story:
Bought an Xbox 360 at launch 2005. Problems, got replaced. Second one didn't work. Got replaced. Then, third one came, and strangely they also sent us another one absolutely free!

All good and the customer service was quite good, as I think.

So, since Summer last year, I've had a blast with both my 360's. Couple of weeks ago, the free Core 360 starts overheating and breaks.
So, we try our own method (took bloody ages) to fix this free 360 (not on warranty or anything). And it works! But I'm led to believe that it will only work temporarily.

It was a free console (and I think it was sent by mistake, the address on one said UK and the other said Ireland - I live in N.Ireland...) so I'm not too bothered.
The other one has worked perfectly since and regardless of the failure rate, I'm honestly quite happy I didn't wait for the PS3 (more than a year later). The PS3 may be more reliable, but it still has a terrible lack of games and the graphics are yet unbeaten (or so the critics say).

And the reason why I was so tolerant to the initial failings of the console? It's so damn good!

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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I am currently in a holding pattern...waiting for my coffin to arrive. This will be my second time sending my box to Texas. The first time I wasn't even offered a coffin [cost me about $30 to ship]. They sent me a new console which lasted about 6 months before acting slow, freezing up, then crashing completely. Oh...and I have to pay $$$ for this time. Apparently M$ won't give a warranty on a new console they sent to me. But I'm supposed to get a whole year warranty when I get my new one [yeah right...we'll see?!?].

My advise to all 360 gamers out there...stop what ur doing right now and get an extended warranty.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:23PM (Unverified) said

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No that's not the standard in the UK. For all the problems I've ever had, they've sent out a box/coffin.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:26PM (Unverified) said

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On my third system I had used a nyko fan and it fried the system on the back where the power plugged in. good thing microsoft hadn't caught wind of the faulty units or i might have never got it replaced, also i have always used my laying down, I do wonder if standing it up might work better but it sits on a table in the open, and standing it up on a table with my 4 year old son and 1 year old daughter running around could end up in a bad result.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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My work colleague has just been through his 6th 360 (really!). On the last occasion it broke, the packaging labels, needed to return the console, took over 6 weeks to arrive. Very poor.
I bought my 360 a few months later than he did and I've never had a problem with mine.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:29PM (Unverified) said

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I feel slightly responsible for this problem. That man in the picture has been to my house nine times now. But thanks to my local Best Buy I haven't spent a cent on replacements.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:37PM chdude3 said

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I play with a group of five friends inclusive. Three units were launch, the other two were Dec 2005 units.

Two launch and one December unit have failed. The two launch were covered under the 1 year warranty, the December is going under Visa's extended warranty coverage.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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I also work for a major shipping company. I agree its not uncommon for pallets of shipments to be delayed for any number of reasons... materials, weather, driver error, and shear stupidity.
With that being said, everyday that goes by (I have a near launch system), I wonder if I m next and am I going to keep my accounts if it does fail.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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The main problem are the cold solder used. The dots disconnect from the motherboard causing a malfunction. This explains the epoxy around the problematic area on the Elite motherboard.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 6:08PM (Unverified) said

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that explains it. i'm having problems with my 360 (drive is scratching discs). as of today i have waited exactly one month to recieve my 'coffin'. i had called customer service yesterday for an update and they asked me to call back in 24 hours as they're 'having issues with their systems'. good timing on this article.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 8:54PM (Unverified) said

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almost all my co-workers have had to send theirs back. My friend got his the same time as i did back like Nov. and it got the redlight from hell by Jan. Mine blinked out on me once but started back up have i unplugged it and restarted it.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:04PM (Unverified) said

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Im on number five now, had two with hardware failure & two with dvd drive failure. After alot of phone calls ive managed to get a free pad out of them but over the past 11 months since purchase support have had my console a total of just over three months, i still have new games not yet played! Im waiting on number five to arrive right now, 14 working days.. great. I love my 360 just wish they game me on that works

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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Guys, but it at costco only. Lifetime Warranty. just swap it at the warehouse then.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:21PM (Unverified) said

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When my 360 got three red lights back in April (it was a launch machine), I didn't get this box. Instead, I just got a white cardboard box with two foam thingies to stick on the ends of the 360. That said, it came right away, my 360 was out of commission for about three weeks. I got the original unit back, too, along with a prepaid card for a month of Xbox Live Gold.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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I am on my third XBox. The first's DVD tray quit working properly, and they replaced it with a brand new one. The "new one" made the most aweful noise when the disc spun. Had to fight them to get that one replaced. But, my 2cents is this: When I dropped the coffin/box off at the UPS store the owner asked my what was in the box. I thought this was quite rude, but he said he wanted to know because he saw at least 4-5 of these coffins going to Texas per week! By the way, I live in a small town (Chapel Hill, NC) not some huge city. That says something about the lack of coffins and replacement rate!

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:28PM (Unverified) said

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ii have had my 360 ever since relece and have never had any problems not evn freezin.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:28PM Rax Dakkar said

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My 360 craped out on me about 3 weeks ago {2 days after the Halo 3 beta started, meaning I missed nearly all of it :( } And i'm certain thats not what my box look liked. Mine looked like a regular shipping box, and if it's that their running out of "coffins" maybe thats just what they had to use.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 4:44PM Andre said

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My 360 recently broke on me, and my first box never showed up. I called after a week or so and made them send a new box. 5 buisness days later, that box hadn't shown up either. I called customer support to bitch about it, and the lady said the box had indeed been shipped and gave me a tracking number. The tracking number ended up being incorrect, but eventually I got the info I was looking for - the box had only been dropped off at Purolator 6 buisness days after I asked for the box.

That said, the box that arrived didn't look like the one above. It was a standard white cardboard box, beat to hell. The foam inserts didn't fit properly in the box, too.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:06PM (Unverified) said

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unless i see stats on failure rates, then I will consider everyone posting about a dammage console as an anomanly not a norm

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 6:24PM (Unverified) said

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I can confirm this. My 360 went toes-up last week and after a week of hearing nothing, I called to find out that the coffin had yet to ship. The claimed it was to ship today. To add injury to insult, I was charged for the repair (it is out of warranty) on the day I made the called.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:24PM Mojo Yugen said

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Maybe they're running low on the "coffins" is because there is a major coffin upgrade about to take place! What new and exciting features do you think it will have? Nano-technology? Carbon-fiber reinforcement? The ability to play taps when you put you deceased 360 in it?
I hope mine fails soon so I can find out!!!!

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:41PM Cueil said

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The people who are on their 3rd and 4th and so on are not part of the breakdown ratio... those are refurbished systems and being that they are more likely to break than a new system so don't go crazy when your refurb dies... after the 3rd I think that you can request a brand new one... at least now they send you back your system if they can so you don't lose all those shared downloads on XBLA... me? I'm hoping my 4th one breaks down fast... maybe I can get a Elite if I complain enough :p

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 5:40PM (Unverified) said

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@27,

But isn't a Costco membership (and the lifetime warranty) $50 a year? Seems like its worth it if you shop there often and/or purchase a lot of failure-prone electronic goodies, but otherwise I think its a little more tenuous.

I'll probably just fork over the $80 bucks for the extended warranty from MS, much as I hate to do it.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 6:36PM Paulish said

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I bought my Premium 360 in early Dec. 2006. I didn't have a problem with it until mid April. The dreaded "disc read error" kept popping up and I couldn't play a game for more than ten minutes. I called customer support and sent it in for repairs. Didn't pay a dime since it was still under warranty. Took a while to receive the box itself actually but, overall, took me about two or three weeks to get it back, which was around early May.

So far, so good. I haven't had a single problem with my 360 since *finger crossed* They even gave me a free month of XBox Live Gold, which was nice of them. They were pretty nice during the whole process with someone like myself who never went through the hassle of sending in a console for repairs. I had a PS2 die on me but I just went and bought another one since they weren't as expensive.

After reading this story, I'm seriously considering buying a Core system as a backup, just in case my 360 needs repairs or just dies. It's not right that so many 360s die. Plus, having to pay a massive amount of money to repair it if it wasn't under warranty is just ridiculous. Thankfully, mine was or else I wouldn't be playing my 360 today.

Posted: Jun 6th 2007 9:00PM (Unverified) said

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got my 360 on launch day and its never had a problem....ever ! =)

Posted: Jun 7th 2007 4:09AM (Unverified) said

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I've had a 360 ever since december 2005 and it just died on me last week. They didn't send me a box, I had to supply the packaging myself, call up UPS and have them pick it up. This was in Germany by the way...

Posted: Jun 7th 2007 9:56AM (Unverified) said

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I dunno about u guys but i've had my 360 since launch and not a single problem.......

Posted: Jun 7th 2007 11:20PM ZeroCorpse said

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I still say a bunch of the "failures" are from user idiocy. Sure, there are problems in the line, but I think that most of the "defects" aren't defects at all, but people mistreating their consoles, putting them on the floor or in an enclosed space, or placing them on top of another hot component. They don't dust. They don't take care of their console. They may even physically abuse it.

Forgive me, but having heard the way some of the 360 owners talk on Live, I just can't believe that those guys are responsible with their equipment. There are a lot of idiots out there.

Posted: Jun 8th 2007 5:11PM (Unverified) said

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I'm on my 3rd and I think they have a new 'coffin'... Mine was just a plain box with foam inserts (similar shape for cardboard coffin)

My issues are:
1) The thing obviously should not break
2) Since it does... Debit my account for the cost of a console and send me a replacement console instead of an empty box. Therefore I have a new console in 3-4 days as opposed to weeks. When you receive my broken console then give me a refund on the previous debit
3) Extend my warranty for another year

I currently go and buy a replacement console while mine is in for repair.. I then return it when I get the refurbished unit back. This is unfair to my local retailer, but I'm not going to go 3 weeks w/o a console.

Posted: Jun 8th 2007 7:07PM h0mi said

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I bought an antec laptop cooler for my 360. Despite this, I got the 3RL yesterday.

Posted: Jun 12th 2007 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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just joined the club mines crashed on the 11june 2007. THey want £90 to fix they told me the people who bought launch xbox 360 got their warrenty extended 2 months as a good will gesture they will not help . They also said that out of 6000000 consoles only 120000 are broke ONLY 120000?????????????????

Posted: Jun 19th 2007 1:47PM (Unverified) said

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When mine bricked in March, MS told me to ship the xbox 360 to them... using my own materials.

They said nothing about a coffin. They just told me to package it, and protect it, well.

Posted: Jun 20th 2007 3:09PM (Unverified) said

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there is only one remedy to all the xbox 360 hardware problems.......GET A PS3

plus u'll save a lot of cardboard:)

Posted: Jun 26th 2007 4:47AM (Unverified) said

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Ok, i thought it was just me going crazt at first, then i saw someone else who reported the same problem... my freaking dvd drive is scratching the #$*% outta my discs!!! I'm on my 3rd replacement (i'm averaging one every six months or so since launch). I love my xbox too, yadda yadda, but when is enough really enough? The best part is that MS will attempt to bill me for the repair/replacement

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