Metal Gear Solid 4 TGS trailer gets graphical upgrade

Never played a Metal Gear, but this looks good. If it is PS3 only I'll wait till Killzone comes out and get a PS3 then and MG with it. Else I'll probs get the 360 version.

Looks very good.

Nice try Brian. Until the PS3 has a game with graphics that are even close to the best looking 360 game, the 360 owns the graphics crown. No matter how bad you still want to believe Sony's pre-launch hype, the PS3 doesn't pwn the 360 in the graphics department.

And after Mass Effect, Too Human, Bioshock, and Unreal III drop this summer/fall on the 360 and not on the PS3, that fact will be even more obvious. The two systems are basically equal in power, with the 360 games benefitting from familiarity and better dev tools. But, kids like you will still be pointing at the cutscenes and fmv and "in-game footage" of some other far-off game screaming "see, see, the PS3 really does pwn!"

Get real and play the games that are out, enjoy them, and shut the hell up already. If you actually just care about playing games with the best graphics available, buy yourself a 360 and Gears today. Get the games I mentioned earlier over the summer to hold you off for Crysis. When Crysis drops, build a monster PC and sell your 360 and PS3.

At no time in the PS3's 10 year lifespan will it have the best graphics out there. The 360 owns it right now and will for a few months, then the PC will take over until the 720. Graphics are not a selling point for the PS3 other than in marketing hype.

@17

Friggin' A man!!! HOME is NOT A GAME!!!!!!!!!
/end rant
I was totally with this game until the Raiden scenes. The cardboard box scene was funny. And hey! For all those that keep putting out the other game titles saying we'll have those games to keep us busy until MGS4 comes out, when exactly are those OTHER games coming out??

PS- just to reiterate, HOME is not a frickin' game!!

Uh... I could be wrong, but there isn't a graphical improvement to the actual game here guys. I think the game trailer guys (/possibly/ the kojima guys) just changed the saturation and lighting a bit. Previously the trailer was alot darker and hard to see certain things. I actually remastered it myself (not as good of a job mind you) a long time ago because I noticed how dark it was in places.

The people asking about the cow noises:

They are supposed to sound like that. i asked about this on Gamefaqs when the trailer was originally doing the rounds and while I can't remember the exact response it was something about making the robots [ThEy R nut tEH M3t4l geerzs! BTW] sound more 'organic' and to lull enemies into a fall sense of security (because giant robots making cow noises are obviously no threat).

Now Personally I laughed my ass off at this, but apparently this came straight from the horses mouth, or was it the cows mouth.

To those who are praising halo 3. I don't see why you do. There are many better fps games out there. Halo just has a big player base. You wanna play a great fps how about some unreal or fear. You know what these games have that halo doesn't? weapon balance also not to sound like a fan boy for sony but any racing game for 360 vs Grand turismo. GT clearlly comes out on top. I plan on getting my ps3 when god of war 3 comes out. i love mgs but im not paying 60 bucks for 2 hours of gameplay and 8 hours of cinematics. Thats why ill just rent it. But ya to all the sony wii and 360 fanboys. they are all good systems but im sorry world of warcraft owns anything these systems will put out for the next 5 years. Bioshock please

Slvrgun - Actually, many game developers keep flip-flopping back and forth on the issue of just how powerful the PS3 and 360 are in relation to each other. One minute, the PS3 is super powerful, the next, it's the 360. And many of the people who talk about how powerful each system is are the one's who develop multi-platform games. Often, they develop for the 360 first, but they can't do a proper port to the PS3, so it becomes graphically inferior. Check back in the Joystiq archives, they have a story about this somewhere.

To everyone who thinks that's Meryl's nipple, it's not, stop looking for what's not there. It's light reflecting off the material she's wearing. Watch when she turns to her right (our left).

Raiden was a huge character in Japan, hence his return as the new ninja. Japanese heroes aren't always the most manly looking characters by western ideals. And it wasn't Raiden that ruined MGS2, it was his girlfriend, Rose. Rose: "Don't you love me anymore Raiden? You can't remember that it's our special day today?" Raiden: "I'm....kinda in the middle of a mission here...to save the world..." Rose: "SPECIAL DAY!!!!" By the way, if it makes you feel any better, the ninja character always dies.

Halo 3 graphics vs. MGS 4 graphics? We can't say yet, since we haven't SEEN the Halo 3 graphics yet. We've seen the Beta's graphics.

Greaatttttttt!

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@ RoroCo

There is a trailer that shows gameplay. Look it up...

@ Slvrgun

As much as I don't like Halo and as much as I'm not an irrational fanboy I say you make fine points. Its true that multiplayer takes a hit when compared to the gameplay of the singe player mode.

"am not saying it won't be pretty, but if the true in-game graphic were as brilliant as some of you are suggesting, I am pretty sure we would have seen a game play trailer for this already. Especially if it is due out this year."

Your lack of knowledge and trust in Kojima Productions is sad. MGS trailers in the past didn't show gameplay either, but were always done with in-game graphics. There was also a MGS4 presentation, where they changed the scenes on the fly, which is kinda hard to do with a prerendered movie.

@ jack

Yeah, I saw the gameplay videos you're talking about and they looked almost exactly like the trailer with the exception of some weird animation in places.

As far as Splinter Cell being better...these people that so easily dismiss MGS must not have played Snake Eater which is one of the greatest games ever made.

@ Deus


thanks for catching that. i wanted to address that ridiculous comment but it slipped my mind among the other bullshit I've been reading here. MGS has never used CG, ever.

@ 43. Brian Spence

First off who ever said Halo 3's the benchmark of graphical prowess on the Xbox 360? Halo 3 can hardly hold a candle to Halo 2 for that matter. If you're going to be a fanboy and compare PS3 graphics to the 360's at least use a decent looking game.

Second, regardless of graphical capabilities Halo 3 will outsell MGS4 2:1 and that's being generous (and that's not because it'll be a better game, it's just because Halo's Microsoft's ace).

Thirdly (not trying to beat a dead horse) Halo 3 hardly equals the graphical prowess of the 360, and visa versa for MGS4. Besides the fact that everything shown so far has been video footage (in-engine supposedly), and the few screens out don't exactly scream "this is the end all be all of graphical fidelity".

So if you're going to try and make a point about graphical "prowess" at least use a game that looks good, say Gears of War, Mass Effect or even BioShock to MGS4 and not Halo 1.75 aka Halo 3.

Posted at 9:46AM on Jun 7th 2007 by Brian Spence

i will only do this once, and write in caps like some crazed fanboy..

HIDEO IS SO FUCKING INSANELY KOOL, THAT VIDEO BEATS ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN IN THE MOVIES THIS LAST MONTH, ESPICIALLY "EMOMAN 3"

I only wished i played MGS when i was younger, now ihave to buy the collection tomorrow and play them all before 08.. I mean 07

I just had to stop lurking to say this:

I am a big fan of MGS but I HATE Raiden. When are the Japanese going to realize when you try to hard to be cool it is really friggen lame? I will get this game to get the end of the story but I will not buy Metal Gear Raiden. I definitely cannot go through any more of this emo crap with my main characters!

LoLoL @ this being gameplay! FACT fanboys this is NOTTT gameplay!!! I must agree with 39, give me Splinter Cell ova this game anyday, anytime, any wuteva...

@65. Ummmmm... Im pretty sure nobody said this was gameplay. Its pretty OBVIOUS that its NOT. Im sure Im not going to be hitting a button to put a gun in my mouth in this game. However it IS realtime graphics and they DO rock.

When are you Xbox people going to realize that its a platform excusive there is no "waiting until the Xbox verison". And yes in repsonse to other posts the wait for this game is agonizing at the least...

Oh and some other things i would like to add.

1. Splinter Cell is "teh suxor" compared to MGS example Snake Eater which is way better then any crapy Splinter Cell game. They are not even close in terms of which is better.

2. Yes Halo will outsell MGS4 but they are two totaly different games. One is meant for multiplayer and one is meant for single player.

3. Most people who criticize MGS have never played it and are Xbox fanboys.

I hope i didnt go on to much of a rant there but i am sick of people who have never even played MGS criticizing it and caiming Xbox and Halo are so much better.

why do the metal gears sound like cows?

simple, hideo had the idea that metal gears made noises of different animals so people think it's the environment, sometimes it;s a real cow, and when you think it's a cow BAM it's a metal gear, same for bird noises, dog noises etc. It's to keep the player paranoid at all times.

it's a huge investment to make this game, if there are not enough consoles to get profit, they will just port it to the xbox so they can make the profit they couls possibly lose, bussiness wise my friend.