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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:43PM (Unverified) said
This graphic sucks they look too cartonish please bring something like Gear of War or at least Virtua Fighter 5 graphics......
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:48PM DarkTetsuya said
@1:
Gears of War = 3D.
Virtua Fighter 5 = 3D.
SSF2T = 2D.
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Gears of War = 3D.
Virtua Fighter 5 = 3D.
SSF2T = 2D.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:49PM Fernando Rocker said
@Trio
This are HD Sprites, ala old school... they are not polygons like Virtua Fighter or Gears of War.
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This are HD Sprites, ala old school... they are not polygons like Virtua Fighter or Gears of War.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:51PM (Unverified) said
Rad, looks great. Kudos to Udon and Capcom USA.
lol @ #1
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lol @ #1
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:52PM (Unverified) said
Trio, your mom is calling she just poured you a big glass of Sunny D before you go outside and play with your preschool buddies and then come in for a story and nap.
I think you should go.
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I think you should go.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:52PM (Unverified) said
What I'd like to know is of there will be more frames for each move. Otherwise, those HD sprites will look off.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:52PM Negativecool said
Trio = moron
Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!
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Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 3:56PM (Unverified) said
Does anyone know when in the fall this game is coming out?
Also, does anyone currently experience button lag during the current XBLA SF game, when playing online?
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Also, does anyone currently experience button lag during the current XBLA SF game, when playing online?
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:07PM (Unverified) said
I studied animation in college, and one of the first things we learned is that the more detailed a drawing is, the more frames of animation nessisary to trick the viewers brain into thinking your drawing is moving.
I fear for how these drawings will look animated.
Plus, that "anatomy" on Guile's asemetrical, seemingly tumor infested arms is a little scary.
His face is well drawn though.
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I fear for how these drawings will look animated.
Plus, that "anatomy" on Guile's asemetrical, seemingly tumor infested arms is a little scary.
His face is well drawn though.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:15PM (Unverified) said
Trio = moron
Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!
Dumb ass why would it be different game, because of the graphics...?
it seems that you never played Street figther 1 and 2
and what about Mortal Kombat 1,2,3 the were 2D games but with difference graphic engines...
Duhhh...
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Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!
Dumb ass why would it be different game, because of the graphics...?
it seems that you never played Street figther 1 and 2
and what about Mortal Kombat 1,2,3 the were 2D games but with difference graphic engines...
Duhhh...
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:18PM (Unverified) said
Looks good for a 2D game, but if you really want to be impressed just wait for Sakaguchi's third Xbox 360 RPG (Cry On). It uses a never before seen cel shading technique that makes it look like an actual anime. There are a few scans on Xboxyde.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:18PM (Unverified) said
Im glad they limited the colour pallete for the sprites.. makes them really HD sprites; very stylistic.
Too bad Wii cant handle HD graphics... you guys are stuck with the snes version of sst2.
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Too bad Wii cant handle HD graphics... you guys are stuck with the snes version of sst2.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:18PM (Unverified) said
Trio, have you ever heard of Street Fighter EX and Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game? Well look them up and see why Capcom is sticking with a look not involved with bad games.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:21PM (Unverified) said
Porter, the SNES was 224i. The Wii is 480p. That does allow better 2D sprites than on the SNES. So it would be Capcom's choice if the Wii is stuck with the SNES games, not the Wii's limitations.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:25PM (Unverified) said
Canebi your mom and your dad is calling they just poured you a big glass of Sunny D before you go outside and play with your preschool buddies and then come in for a story and nap.
I think you should go Canebi....
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I think you should go Canebi....
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:26PM Seroth said
Why the hell was Street Fighter EX a bad series? I loved those games. Granted, I never played the original, but I did play Street Fighter EX2 Plus and Street Fighter EX3, and I thought they were both awesome.
As for the Guile sprite...doesn't look as good as the previous HD sprites I've seen, but I have high hopes that it'll look better in motion..it better, 'cause Guile is my favorite character. >=[
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As for the Guile sprite...doesn't look as good as the previous HD sprites I've seen, but I have high hopes that it'll look better in motion..it better, 'cause Guile is my favorite character. >=[
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 4:52PM (Unverified) said
Aw, crap. Trio just reminded me that most kids are probably out of school by now. I don't know how many 8th grade "intellectuals" I can stand.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2007 3:12PM (Unverified) said
Yep, trio is one of those guys you love to hate.... Oh wait, no we just plain hate people like him.
But seriously, I can't wait for this game.
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But seriously, I can't wait for this game.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 5:22PM (Unverified) said
people like Trio above are the reason why great games die off. stupid immature kida who dont know real games and just proclaim GFX!
you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.
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you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 5:23PM (Unverified) said
I love what these guys are doing, it's a perfect homage to the games we loved, and we can experience them again, in a new way, via hi-def.
I am curious if the developers will use smoother moves than the original games' jerky few animations.
If they do, they are going to have a load on their hands making gameplay familiar and similar.
If they don't, we can still play the old games, just prettier.
I hope they do both!
Play it in hi-def as the original game, with all the limited animations, or play the new version, with 'smooth moves' (no ex-lax jokes!) for every character, but altered gameplay.
Hmmm... we shall see...
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I am curious if the developers will use smoother moves than the original games' jerky few animations.
If they do, they are going to have a load on their hands making gameplay familiar and similar.
If they don't, we can still play the old games, just prettier.
I hope they do both!
Play it in hi-def as the original game, with all the limited animations, or play the new version, with 'smooth moves' (no ex-lax jokes!) for every character, but altered gameplay.
Hmmm... we shall see...
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 5:24PM (Unverified) said
Ahhh, Trio's response and the subsequent replies are simply more proof that sarcasm will never translate well on the interweb.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 5:41PM (Unverified) said
They are not adding frames of animation. Stipulations in place mean no new frames, same exact gameplay.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 7:03PM (Unverified) said
anybody else notice that the flag on his left arm is backwards? ...idiots.
also, i think Akuma and Ken look way better.
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also, i think Akuma and Ken look way better.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 7:10PM (Unverified) said
This sprite looks more like a digital painting than pixel art. It seems to be done in a slightly different style than the previous two that you guys shared here. Is it slightly enlarged, which would explain the slight blurriness?
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 7:41PM (Unverified) said
I like how Trio completely avoids using punctuation during his sentences, but puts 9 of them at the very end of his comment. It's like a punctuation assault! 9-HIT COMBO!!
Thank you, Trio. You have made my day, along with the comments here.
Oh, and like all the other HD sprites that they've released, Guile looks fantastic. Keep 'em coming.
-Corn
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Thank you, Trio. You have made my day, along with the comments here.
Oh, and like all the other HD sprites that they've released, Guile looks fantastic. Keep 'em coming.
-Corn
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:01PM DarkTetsuya said
#30: I think that's more a technical issue than anything else... these are based on actual in-game sprites remember, so I don't think they 'fixed' the flag.
This phenomenon reminds me of something else I read about SSF2/T's sprites, When DeeJay was originally drawn, apparently his long pants had 'MANTIS' down the side, but since the N and S were reversed when he faced the other direction, they went with 'MAXIMUM' so it'd be less evident when the sprite was flipped.
(Also I think the same phenomenon happens with Sagat's eyepatch.)
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This phenomenon reminds me of something else I read about SSF2/T's sprites, When DeeJay was originally drawn, apparently his long pants had 'MANTIS' down the side, but since the N and S were reversed when he faced the other direction, they went with 'MAXIMUM' so it'd be less evident when the sprite was flipped.
(Also I think the same phenomenon happens with Sagat's eyepatch.)
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:03PM Cru said
People that rip on 2d artwork make me cry, they need to lighten up.
These drawings will look great in motion, and if you had a shred of nostalgia in your body, you'd either by moved by the artwork - or you'd be demanding better drawn 2d sprites. But, I suppose that's pointless in your eyes, since you're comparing a 2d fighter with a 3d one - what you really want.
If you're clamoring for another 3d street fighter, you are definitely voicing your opinion to the wrong crowd.
And if you think this looks too cartoony, then I'd have to wonder where your head was at when you were playing the original.
I have to wonder where people like you find any space for light-hearted, happy gaming. Not everything has to be epic, realistic and gritty to be appealing.
No wonder everyone playing Counter-strike is miserable. It's nothing but grit and players shouting noob as a blanket word to cover up their community's lack of openess.
If that's what makes you happy, stay there. Don't shit on my bright and colorful diamond in the rough.
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These drawings will look great in motion, and if you had a shred of nostalgia in your body, you'd either by moved by the artwork - or you'd be demanding better drawn 2d sprites. But, I suppose that's pointless in your eyes, since you're comparing a 2d fighter with a 3d one - what you really want.
If you're clamoring for another 3d street fighter, you are definitely voicing your opinion to the wrong crowd.
And if you think this looks too cartoony, then I'd have to wonder where your head was at when you were playing the original.
I have to wonder where people like you find any space for light-hearted, happy gaming. Not everything has to be epic, realistic and gritty to be appealing.
No wonder everyone playing Counter-strike is miserable. It's nothing but grit and players shouting noob as a blanket word to cover up their community's lack of openess.
If that's what makes you happy, stay there. Don't shit on my bright and colorful diamond in the rough.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:05PM Negativecool said
"'Trio = moron
Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!'
Dumb ass why would it be different game, because of the graphics...?
it seems that you never played Street figther 1 and 2
and what about Mortal Kombat 1,2,3 the were 2D games but with difference graphic engines...
Duhhh.."
Yes, FUCKTARD it WOULD be a different game! And the Mortal Kombat games ARE different than they used to be. ANY game that switches from 2D to 3D inherently changes! Some do it well (Mario, Mortal Kombat, etc.) and some do it horribly (Sonic).
You aren't too bright are you kid. You are also way to young to remember how Street Fighter is suppose to play to call me a dumbass. Read everyone's posts, your self esteem should go down enough to make you want to end your own life. Loser.
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Street fighter with the Unreal 3 engine? That would be an entirely different game than what Street Fighter IS!'
Dumb ass why would it be different game, because of the graphics...?
it seems that you never played Street figther 1 and 2
and what about Mortal Kombat 1,2,3 the were 2D games but with difference graphic engines...
Duhhh.."
Yes, FUCKTARD it WOULD be a different game! And the Mortal Kombat games ARE different than they used to be. ANY game that switches from 2D to 3D inherently changes! Some do it well (Mario, Mortal Kombat, etc.) and some do it horribly (Sonic).
You aren't too bright are you kid. You are also way to young to remember how Street Fighter is suppose to play to call me a dumbass. Read everyone's posts, your self esteem should go down enough to make you want to end your own life. Loser.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:08PM (Unverified) said
Capcom is a few years old, they should have come out with HD Street Fighter when Guilty Gears came out.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:19PM ill trooper said
Trio, if you want to see a "more realistic" Guile, you might consider renting Street Fighter: The Movie.
Seriously, though, not everyone is in to this 'sprite' look, while others LOVE it - but that sums up the years that have passed since Street Fighter II was state of the art - despite the technology evolving towards easily handling 3D characters, and then cel-shading of 3D characters, Finding Nemo, etc, a core group of people has continued to support a highly successful series of 2D arcade fighters like SNK vs. Capcom, Marvel vs Capcom, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Street Fighter Alpha, etc.
This update is for that group of people who love the hand-crafted 2D art.
Personally, I want to see BLANKA... Any one else hope they add a Maori face tattoo to Balrog?
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Seriously, though, not everyone is in to this 'sprite' look, while others LOVE it - but that sums up the years that have passed since Street Fighter II was state of the art - despite the technology evolving towards easily handling 3D characters, and then cel-shading of 3D characters, Finding Nemo, etc, a core group of people has continued to support a highly successful series of 2D arcade fighters like SNK vs. Capcom, Marvel vs Capcom, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Street Fighter Alpha, etc.
This update is for that group of people who love the hand-crafted 2D art.
Personally, I want to see BLANKA... Any one else hope they add a Maori face tattoo to Balrog?
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:25PM (Unverified) said
My commendations to Capcom: I love the art they've been showing us for this verions of SFIIT. I do hope it looks just as good animated, though, but I have little doubt it will. These images are also being viewed at many times their in-game size, so I imagine they'll look much sharper during gameplay.
It is a shame, however, that such a fine piece of in-game artwork should be so quickly blasted by the first near-anonymous poster.
Although it MIGHT be interesting to see Street Fighter run on the Unreal 3 engine, I can't see how that makes these graphics unfavourable. Sure, it may be cartoonish and unrealistic . . . but that just makes it DIFFERENT, not better or worse. It's like saying apple juice is better than bread. Both are suitable for consumption, but entirely different types of food (and drink).
Now I'd just like to see what the rest of the characters will look like . . .
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It is a shame, however, that such a fine piece of in-game artwork should be so quickly blasted by the first near-anonymous poster.
Although it MIGHT be interesting to see Street Fighter run on the Unreal 3 engine, I can't see how that makes these graphics unfavourable. Sure, it may be cartoonish and unrealistic . . . but that just makes it DIFFERENT, not better or worse. It's like saying apple juice is better than bread. Both are suitable for consumption, but entirely different types of food (and drink).
Now I'd just like to see what the rest of the characters will look like . . .
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:35PM (Unverified) said
Yeah this crazy Guile has no eyes how he will be able to fight, what the heck its going now with capcom, i prefer street figther 2 graphics at least you can see his eyes, shame on you capcom shame on you.....
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:48PM (Unverified) said
@ 24 zViolence
people like Trio above are the reason why great games die off. stupid immature kida who dont know real games and just proclaim GFX!
you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.people like Trio above are the reason why great games die off. stupid immature kida who dont know real games and just proclaim GFX!
you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.
Yeah i think you are only able to make games like pong and tetris with your old PC, hello,hello i sell games for ATARI 2600 $2.00 each, helloo......
Shame on you Dumb ass shame on you......
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people like Trio above are the reason why great games die off. stupid immature kida who dont know real games and just proclaim GFX!
you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.people like Trio above are the reason why great games die off. stupid immature kida who dont know real games and just proclaim GFX!
you have no freakin idea how long it takes to make great frame by frame sprites like those above in comparison to a model.
im a game programmer and designer myself and i can tell you sprites like those on a grand scale like capcom makes em takes so much more skill and dedication to make over a great 3d model.
and you people like Trio wouldnt even understand that.
Yeah i think you are only able to make games like pong and tetris with your old PC, hello,hello i sell games for ATARI 2600 $2.00 each, helloo......
Shame on you Dumb ass shame on you......
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 8:56PM (Unverified) said
@ 26 Ratboy
Ahhh, Trio's response and the subsequent replies are simply more proof that sarcasm will never translate well on the interweb.
......???????
Duhhh.......
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Ahhh, Trio's response and the subsequent replies are simply more proof that sarcasm will never translate well on the interweb.
......???????
Duhhh.......
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 10:06PM Cru said
Part of poorly received sarcasm is not running with it and regarding the people that couldn't read into the imaginary inflections in your voice as stupid. Subsequent replies are just assuming what someone would spend their time posting on the forum is to be taken at face value. And the source.. doesn't do much to change that, but fan the flames higher.
It's like a child that touches things just to see their parents get pissed off.
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It's like a child that touches things just to see their parents get pissed off.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 11:16PM Chyld989 said
"They are not adding frames of animation. Stipulations in place mean no new frames, same exact gameplay."
Actually, I'm about 95% sure that they ARE adding new frames of animation. I seem to recall them even saying that people that are very used to the game will have to relearn it a bit because the timing will be slightly different due to having more frames.
I can't give you a quote, but I seem to recall reading it on Joystiq.
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Actually, I'm about 95% sure that they ARE adding new frames of animation. I seem to recall them even saying that people that are very used to the game will have to relearn it a bit because the timing will be slightly different due to having more frames.
I can't give you a quote, but I seem to recall reading it on Joystiq.
Posted: Jun 16th 2007 11:54PM BurntMeatloaf said
@11 (Tron Knotts): So true. What makes it worse is that the poses are so radical. That first image looks positively gut-wrenching... literally.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2007 11:58PM Rainart said
Trio, we get it, now shut up. We don't need a new KingofWales. Everything you say will be counter-acted, if by nothing else than your own ineptitude.
As much as I like the art, it makes me instantly think of the mid-late episodes of DragonBall Z, where muscles seemed to protrude from the most inexplicable places...kinda has me worried about Cammy. Still I was, and still am, a big fan of Street Fighter, and the fanboy in me really wants this...even though I have no PS3..or 360...
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As much as I like the art, it makes me instantly think of the mid-late episodes of DragonBall Z, where muscles seemed to protrude from the most inexplicable places...kinda has me worried about Cammy. Still I was, and still am, a big fan of Street Fighter, and the fanboy in me really wants this...even though I have no PS3..or 360...
Posted: Jun 17th 2007 3:26AM (Unverified) said
"Actually, I'm about 95% sure that they ARE adding new frames of animation."
%100 wrong. It's been said over and over by David Sirlin himself that adding new frames or changing the engine is beyond the scope of the project. It's just a visual update.
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%100 wrong. It's been said over and over by David Sirlin himself that adding new frames or changing the engine is beyond the scope of the project. It's just a visual update.
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