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Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 9:56PM (Unverified) said

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i'd like to point out that xbox live players do NOT have to pay for the extra map packs. since these were announced for the PS3 for free, live owners are being reimbursed and newbies to Vegas can download them for free.

with that out of the way, this is a great shooter on any platform, the graphics being different is a developer issue i'm told, where the spu is being used and not the cell (i can't really remember what Andir3.0 said so forgive me if i'm wrong lol).

developers should be fixing this prob in the future as more learn how to port 360 to PS3 and vice versa.

just thought i'd clear that up.

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 10:00PM (Unverified) said

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At least, they're free NOW. I wonder if that had anything to do with them being free on the ps3 version...

I picked this up last week, but haven't actually fired it up yet; been lost in The Darkness. That game really seems to grow on you. When I first started playing it I wasn't too impressed with the game, and although it still has it's issues there's just something about the way your powers are able to rip through a room (or a church! The humanity, where's the Church of England to save us!) with the help of your little darkling friends that's just satisfying and quite fun. Once you get into it, and the oh so appropriately dark story, it's pretty damn fun.

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 10:40PM GRT said

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"And that brings us to ... multiplayer: the meat and bones of any true Rainbow Six game. "

So what's the single player campaign? Skin and fat? Am I the last gamer on the planet who enjoys kicking back with a good single player campaign? I deal with people all day long. I rather enjoy some solitary time with a good game at the end of the day. Guess that's just me.

"The tacked-on Sixaxis functionality, however, doesn't fare as well."

I'm not surprised there. I can't wait for this "motion sensitive controls" fad to pass. They ruin more games with this crud. I'm glad there's an option to skip it here.

Anyway, I'm trying to figure this review out. A lot of time is spent discussing problems with the game. But then the last paragraph says the reviewer can't get enough of it... but even then uses "Despite the.." in 2 sentences in that one 'graph alone.

So bottom line, would I be better off getting this on the XBox 360 or the PS3? I don't much like the idea of having to tweak the PS3 to force it into 720P mode, and I like the idea of fiddling with my tv settings every time I want to play even less.

Not trying to start flames, just wanting to make sure I get the version that's better for me. When all else is equal I'd go for the PS3 version because every time I turn the 360 on I hold my breath hoping it isn't going to roll over and die... :)

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 10:46PM (Unverified) said

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I'll pass; seems like the single player campaign can be blown through in a day. And, im not into multiplayer FPSs.

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 10:53PM (Unverified) said

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@GRT: I was thinking the same thing! The reviewer seems to indicate that much is wrong with this port, and yet states that they couldn't get enough of the game. I'm actually starting to think that they are trying not to say: "great game, stinky port job" to every Ubi game that comes out. It may not seem fair, but I think it may be the truth. Then again, I didn't write the review, so I don't know for sure - I can only conjecture about what the reviewer meant. But being an Ubi game, I'll take my guess for now. =/

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 11:01PM (Unverified) said

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one MAJOR issue - the cruddy 1080i implementation.

I hope Ubisoft release a patch that locks the game in at 720p, as it looks terrible in 1080i...

Plus if you have 720p, 1080p selected, but not 1080i,
the game STILL runs in 1080i

it's quite frustrating manually setting your ps3 down from 1080p just to play one game, to tell the truth, i haven't been playing it much because of this!

otherwise game is kewl, much better port than most i've seen recently.

Posted: Jul 2nd 2007 11:16PM (Unverified) said

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I am really hoping Ubi holds up with their new gameplan. Which if you haven't been following along is delivering exclusives which work best on certain consoles. Rayman for Wii. Splinter Cell for 360. Haze for PS3(it will be exclusive)

Way to go Ubisoft my new fav devoloper (if all things go as you say!). Sorry Insomniac I want to dream. Damn that line worked well.

About Rainbow Six.

I really should give it a try because I have never tried a tactical shooter. I like Ubisoft as a dev. I still play Rayman on my computer and I might actually get the PS1 version now that I have a PS3.

Happy belated Canada day.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 12:01AM (Unverified) said

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Rainbow Six: Vegas is a strange beast indeed. On the one hand, there were glaring issues that couldn't be ignored (like the 1080i bug, the abundant jaggies in certain locations and the lack of a lobby system for online play) but the game delivers such solid and addicting game play, it's easy to overlook them.

We didn't want to riddle the review with frequent Xbox 360 comparisons to keep the review pure in spirit to those that may be discovering Rainbow Six: Vegas for the first time. In the eyes of a newcomer, we instead focused on what one can expect coming into the game without any previous knowlege of its Xbox counterpart. That being said, we DID run side-by-side comparisons to the Xbox 360 version and fanboys of both sides may be disappointed to hear that the differences are minimal at best. Jaggies on PS3 are more noticable at times, but the draw distance was a little more deeper and clearer, so it was a trade-off of sorts. The Xbox 360 version has higher quality textures that you'll notice when crouching against walls and such for cover, but we also noticed colors appeared more washed out in general, when compared to the PS3's crisper color scheme. Again, minor differences at best.

Online is a bit different, but we can be a little forgiving to the still-free PlayStation Network over its more matured cousin, Xbox Live. With the recent outcry for a lobby system, we dare say the first patch for Rainbow will bring about that very feature, bridging the small gap between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 versions.

We certainly hope the minor issues we outlined in the review are corrected in future patches (and, there's hardly any reason to believe they won't be, after reading the recent threads on Ubisoft's PS3 Rainbow Six: Vegas thread on their website). In the meantime, we're still enjoying ourselves immensely with the multiplayer component. So, come join us online, will you?

Peter

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 12:10AM (Unverified) said

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I've read that as far as ports, this one is pretty much spot-on to the 360 version. Some small issues here and there, but I've also read in a few reviews that if you have both a 360 and a ps3, the ps3 version is the one worth buying; of course, that was back when the map packs were still $10 a pop, and this week Circuit City has it for $40.
If you have one system or the other, easy choice, just buy it already. If you have both and don't already own this on the 360... go with whichever console you prefer to game on.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 12:54AM (Unverified) said

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Hm, it's great to give advice on running the game at 720p instead of 1080i, but you guys sound like Sony or sites like IGN - they don't seem to believe that there are people who have 1080i only TVs. I really would have figured a site like this would actually be conscious of that fact.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 1:47AM (Unverified) said

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whoa, that was alot to stomach Turian_Tim!

but like i said before it's the developers fault for not taking advantage of the Cell processor, and not the PS3 for it's hardware.

and what you said about the Fatal Inertia game holds true to this by them having "problems with the PS3 engine." this is more evidence that it is the developer's incompetency.

i won't say the usual "wait for the future of PS3's Potential" because, hell i'm not the mass collective of developer minds for the PS3. it's them that has to learn how to program games for PS3 not I.

i do know that done right the PS3 delivers. Heavenly Sword is BEAUTIFUL exclusive title and Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a GORGEOUS port of an XBOX game.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 2:01AM (Unverified) said

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wow tim.. you are by far the most dedicated fanboy i've seen.. i appreciate you making sure you said that the unreal engine doesn't perform as good on the ps3.. even thou most if not all of the things you said point at the developers' half ass job like we knew ubi was gonna do, you still managed to say the ps3 sucks in a nicer way

bottom line dude the 360 and ps3 are way different and devs keep trying to find a common ground and they wont, they keep trying to make crappy ports just looking for the quick buck and for now is bad for the ps3, but by next year when most devs use the ps3 as a plattform the 360 will be the affected one..

the truth is that if they tried to port resistance to the 360 it will look like crap on the 360 and someone like you will be on the 360 fanboy site writing the same crap against the 360...

it's pretty sad the time you took when in less than 6 months you're gonna see some amazing graphics on the ps3 that you will never see on the 360 and you're gonna feel dumb for writing this long post, trying to feel better about your 360 when the lack of better graphics on the ps3 (if this is actually true) were worse because of ubi's fault.. not the godstation3..

now bow to it and ask for forgiveness.. lol jk..

enjoy your console tim.. stop hating others

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 2:23AM (Unverified) said

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yo Tim, that was some nice "missioning" , but we natives are happy with our chosen religion, and you're wasting your time....

This -
"Friend, I'm just trying to explain things clearly and tell you which version of the game is the best."

takes the cake as the most Religio-sounding comment today!

Friend, I'm just trying to explain to you that there is only One True Path, and all others lead to HELL. :-)

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 3:07AM (Unverified) said

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Wow! Look at Turian_Tim go! He's shilling. Oh, well. I guess he can't stand that the PS3 games are actually getting better each month.

Turian_Tim. You can cry all you want. It's up to you. But the inevitable will happen. The PS3 will start to PWN the 360.

Oh, and by the way. SEVEN MONTHS later release is not what is important. It's how long the developer tools have been in the hands of the developers to learn. There's a learning curve ya know! You can't just download the info into the head of the developers before the tools have been finalized and/or learned.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 7:10AM Darko85 said

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@BulletToothTony

This is not a fanboy rant of any type just facts.

Actually from what I've read they can port PS3 games to the 360 pretty easily. Such as DMC4 and every other game that used to be an exclusive. (and they dont suffer graphically)

Games will never look any more amazing than the graphics on the 360. They both have great hardware and have one similar bottleneck.... the graphics card. You can only squeeze so much out of one. I hate to break it to you but it just isnt true. Games will start to look better... on both systems. Take a look at Crysis.... neiter system is capable of running it in DX10.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 8:41AM (Unverified) said

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Is anyone here even familiar with game programming, or am I just listening to people talking out of their asses again? I mean, every time I hear about how the 360's got this or the PS3's got that, it really makes me wonder what their technical background is or the actual experience they have. It's getting more annoying than having Johnny Romero constantly blabbing about his always-near comeback. So come on, instead of bragging about it, pull it out and lets measure everyone. I'm just so sick of hearing bullshit.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 9:47AM (Unverified) said

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@Darko: "Games will never look any more amazing than the graphics on the 360" I thought the same thing about Mario 64. You're a FUCKING IDIOT!!! Never huh? Rainbow pwns anything that the 360 had out at 7 months, and God of War 2 looks like it could be a launch 360 game. Don't let your hatred of the PS3 drive you to say stupid stuff. Word mean things. And Tim thanks for trying to save me, but like most PS3 owners, I COULD AFFORD A 360 IF I WANT ONE (I actually have one), so fuck off w/ you're "deep analysis" of why the 360 is better. I get it, you cant afford a PS3, and you're glad your 360 is holding up. Now go play it and stop trolling, fag...

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 8:46AM (Unverified) said

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Turian Tim is really a loser known as Unbiased Technology Professor. He posts on another forum as a "professor" of gaming technology, but he really is a chubby 20 year old loser from Ohio.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 9:42AM (Unverified) said

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Ongoing flamewar aside, does anyone know which singleplayer game is longer, Rainbow Six or the Darkness? I'm torn between the two of them and I'm leaning towards this game at hte moment but I really want an engaging singleplayer experience as well as nice multiplayer.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 9:52AM (Unverified) said

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James I haven't played the Darkness, but Rainbow has a solid single player campaign. Too bad there arent many places to rent from...

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 12:00PM GRT said

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@9 Peter --

Thanks for the update/clarification. I've waited this long...I think I'll wait a bit longer and see if Ubi releases a patch for the 1080i issue. As I said, all in all I much prefer gaming on the PS3 to the 360.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 12:26PM (Unverified) said

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The multiplayer lobby thing is a problem with Double Agent as well.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 1:25PM (Unverified) said

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Once again I'll pass due to the ps3's problem in displaying anything in 1080i

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 1:26PM (Unverified) said

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also Black N red player packs are free on xbl

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 4:18PM Darko85 said

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@Titty Pink

Wow, what a troll.... You seem to lack all common sense.

First off you completely took "Games will never look any more amazing than the graphics on the 360" out of context I meant PS3 games not games in general... I apologize for the mis-statement. Note how I pointed out that neither console is capable of running Crysis... I would say within the next 10-15 years game will be damn near photo realistic.

Second off First gen xbox 360 games != first gen ps3 games.... there is a year difference in there. What you seem to be missing is the fact that R6 was on the 360 6 months ago, it was "ported" over to the ps3... its not like they started from scratch and made a first gen ps3 game.... ugggh I dont even want to go on... why do I waste my time on Trolls?

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 6:45PM (Unverified) said

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Darko: I don't see how you can make that assumption this early in the game. As I said before, God of War 2 could rival at least a few of the 360 launch titles. How can the PS3 never catch up? I don't see the logic. Rainbow being ported has little bearing on my comment. I mentioned Mario 64 because the PS1 eventually caught up, and made a decent showing against the 64, so I think I understood. As far as trolling, this is a PS3 forum called fanboy, and you leave a bunch of negative comments on the PS3, and I'm the troll. As far as Brian's comment on fiction, I'm willing to bet that a vast majority of PS3 owners have a 360, or could get one if they really wanted to. It's the most expensive system on the market. To think not would be like saying a guy who bought an I phone can't get a Treo. The point is, we don't need saving, and again we get it. The 360 has an advantage right now, and maybe for a while. I don't think it will drive any of us to the rubber room....

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 6:53PM easo said

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James:
Both games top out at about 10hrs, but The Darkness gets my vote. I have both games, and if you want to know what single player game i enjoyed more, i would say The Darkness. However, RS:V has a much deeper multiplayer expirence. *If you want more opinions on the two games, you should read the review for the 360 version of both games.

*Why the 360 version, because the content for both games on both consoles is near identical, and the review wont be full of meaningless comparisons between the two consoles. I dont know why review sites feel it nessessary to compare PS3 and 360 in the PS3 reviews for games, but it f***ing irritates me. I dont honestly dont get it. Unless there is a significant difference between the two, people that own both consoles are going to buy the game on their favorite console, and everone else will buy it on the console they own. I dont see the need to niggle over better textures on the 360 version but brighter colors in the PS3 game. I dont feel like there is anyone in the world that will read the review and say "Wow, Im glad I read this review, otherwise I would have got the ps3 version and been stuck with slightly worse texture quality."
sorry for the rant, but i feel like ps3 reviews are too full of 360 compairisons. Even reviews for exclusives like motorstorm and resistance have tons of meaningless comparisons.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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@ Darko

The reason a PS3 to 360 port wouldn't suffer graphically is because after developing a game for the PS3, it is much simpler to port over to the 360 than the opposite.

Posted: Jul 3rd 2007 7:02PM easo said

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Titty Pink:
I think your refering to 360 launch games that were ports of ps2 games, in which case, yes God of War 2 does indeed look better than some of the 360s launch games. However, since I consider God of War 2 the best looking PS3 game I have, thats giving the game faint praise.

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:47PM (Unverified) said

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i liked rainbow six vegas but i clocked it in 2 days
and i wish you could use your headset in single player mode.
and the sound kepted going funny in some areas

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 9:46PM (Unverified) said

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this is bull clitoris ,our system is supposed to be better.what ever happend to the rug ripple effect ,7 month delay 4 this ,have logan put a snake cam up my ass .this is full of shit

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