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Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:10PM (Unverified) said

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"UMD as a Universal Media Disc is, indeed, a failure"
I agree with you on that and basically the rest of what you said, I'm just saying the idea that it's a failure as the format for the psp, and thus will be dropped is just wrong.

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:17PM (Unverified) said

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"I see 2gb SD cards on sale for $5 virtually every week."

Where, seriously. I'd buy a couple at the price for my camera, but haven't seen them quite that low.

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:42PM Extinction said

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"The UMD is probably the biggest mistake in the design of the PSP"]

No, UMD was REQUIRED for PSP. Had they gone with carts, developers would've had to deal with the filesize limitation of an exponentially more expensive medium. EVERY SINGLE PSP game would've been stripped down of it's non-essentials (voice acting, FMV, high res texture, etc) thus defeating the point of it's powerful hardware.

You retards know nothing about what it takes to make games. UMD wasn't a mistake, it was the best thing to happen to portable games. The same reasons why CD/DVD are used in consoles.

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:41PM Extinction said

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"Um, N64 had rumble before sony slapped it on their controller, analogue sticks too"

PC had both before N64.
Intellivision had analog before N64

""Wasn't it Nintendo's idea to use the CD drive in the first place? "

Nope.

"UMD as a Universal Media Disc is, indeed, a failure"

Only in the minds of the incredibly stupid

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 10:43PM Extinction said

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I have a PS1 controller with analog sticks that came out before the N64

Posted: Jul 5th 2007 11:37PM samfish said

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"I have a PS1 controller with analog sticks that came out before the N64"

No you don't, you halfwit.
The PS1 controller had analog sticks bolted on after Sony saw how popular the N64 was. If you ever played the ORIGINAL Playstation, you'd see that the controller just looks like a funky SNES controller.


"yeah, like how when Sony copied Nintendo by putting CD and then DVD as their disc-driver."

Nintendo was PLANNING a CD system WITH Sony. Did you just throw your brain in the toilet before you typed that?
On top of that, there's also the SegaCD. Also predated Playstation.

"or introducing rumble feature."

Starfox64 and the Rumble Pack says "hi!"

"or selling 100+ million units in two iteration of system in a row?"

This is innovation...how again??


"in fact, explain to me what did Sony copy from Nintendo again? :)"

In addition to analog sticks and rumble, you can now add motion sensing to the list.

Sony is GREAT at taking other people's ideas and bringing them to their fullest, logical conclusion. But coming up with their own ideas? Especially ones that have a profound effect on gaming as a whole?
NOT so great at that.

And before any of you kids gets it in your head, innovation ISN'T doing something first. It's doing something first and doing it RIGHT.

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 2:06AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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FUN FACT:
TurboGrafx-CD was the first CD-based console (well, it was an attachment to TurboGrafx-16, but it still predates Sega CD).

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 7:37AM iHEARTbiff said

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Gran Turismo 4 for the PSP anyone?!

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 8:02AM WedgeTalon said

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"We'll never walk away from our base."

So.... how's that Betamax doing for ya?

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 9:41AM (Unverified) said

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@Tahiri

Read my post, not just that sentence. UMD as a game media format is excellent and the casing around the optical media protects the disc. It's a clever solution and a good deal all around. But as a UNIVERSAL MEDIA DISC, it's a failure.

Universal Media indicates that it's a good format for all media. Theoretically, it is. In practice? Let's just put it this way...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/002-9308343-6425619?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=umd+music&Go.x=7&Go.y=11

Blink 182 on UMD is $18 on sale... for a $10 release CD. Offspring Video Collection on UMD is $23 for a $10 DVD. In the words of Riley Freeman, "That's messed up, Huey."

UMD media pricing is drastically inflated. And that is the core for the failure. Do you know why iTunes succeeded and MP3.com did not? iTunes was $.99 a song and $9.99 a CD. MP3.com was $2.49 a song and no option to buy the full CD. At iTunes debut, iTunes only had a 80,000 song lead over MP3.com (meaning it was 420,000 vs 500,000). iTunes took a business model everyone else was looking to exit and found the price point would logically be lower for DD or lower quality media. And guess what happened?

If UMD took the iTunes mentality, aka, "the fuck? These discs cannot hold a large resolution, all the extra content, and we even have to struggle to fit a couple trailers on... how is this worth the 100%-300% mark up again?" we would be looking at UMD differently. But all the media moguls saw was PS2s success coupled with a captive audience and wondered why magic didn't happen.

Posted: Jul 6th 2007 5:44PM Dummy00001 said

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I have nothing against UMD in particular.

As long as Sony would confirm downloadable games running off memory stick.

"Games only on UMD" concept really suck. And it is not only game load times problem - battery life is also sunk by spinning UMD. Ppl were consistently cracking PSP games more or less for sake of booting them from MS - what both is faster and saves battery life.

2 hours of game play from a charge does suck.

P.S. It might have been other story - had been UMD based on BD and not DVD. As of now UMD is dead to me also because it is really old technology. BD in UMD formfactor?? I'd be sold immeadiately!!

P.P.S. Disclaimer: DS owner here. And heck, Nintendo was right using good ol' cartridges for NDS.

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