Japanese hardware sales, Jun. 25 - Jul. 1: Slippery slope edition

@ 'the Nintendo DS is nothing more than a farcical fad'

Ahahaha...I lol'd when I read that. DS will never die, it's just that everybody and their grandmother already has one, so unless Nintendo starts selling them in the maternity ward at hospitals for the new mothers to give to their infants I see this sort of thing happening more often now.

@ 'the Nintendo DS is nothing more than a farcical fad'

Ahahaha...I lol'd when I read that. DS will never die, it's just that everybody and their grandmother already has one, so unless Nintendo starts selling them in the maternity ward at hospitals for the new mothers to give to their infants I see this sort of thing happening more often now.

On the other hand PS3 up 24% way to go Sony!

Wow..sorry about the double post..

"salamajamas" That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Ever.

nintendo needs to step it up a notch and dodge the kiddyness if they want to attract more audiences for the DS. Hopefully they learn there lesson before this happens to the wii, i mean look at how easy Twilight princess was compared to previous zeldas just so that "EVERYONE" could play it. They really need thier hardcore audience back and fast.

360 is still 1/4 of the sales of PS3, even though both seem to kind of be up.

And...Salamajamas! Yes!

Hurrah, 5 digit sales! It's almost like it's a real console in Japan again!
And, I concur with salamajamas being the highlight of the weekend on Joystiq already. Well played sir, now I have no reason to come back until Monday.

@6

You're kidding right?

we can only hope Ska

Are you guys serious??? The DS sold more units than all other consoles combined! If any one is in trouble, it's anybody who isn't selling the DS.

From vgcahtz and wikipedia

Assuming that no one has more then one ds then Nintendo only has about 8% of the population of japan.

My GOD I wish I was interested in the DS!! So dominate...so sexy.

As you can see Nintendo is clearly doomed to fail forever.

thanks for the good laughs engadget
=p

NOOO!!! IT'S TOO YOUNG! IT'S TO YOUNG!

Obviously, Joe, parody is lost on you.

I don't... I don't get it... People are still going crazy about the DS and the Lite. Is this some sort of joke? Some sort of sick joke that's trying to feed on how popular Nintendo's little touchable friend is? It isn't funny, Joystiq. I'm used to at least an only slightly cynical view, and now we're reduced to throwing insults about pillows being replaced by crocodiles and Nintendo wearing salamajamas. Is this the fourth grade? The second grade? I don't mind comedy, but this is stooping to the level of comedy VGCats uses. Do you really need to be doing this to us, joking about the DS?

The Wii is selling more than all competing consoles combined, and the DS is selling more than all other consoles combined PERIOD.

Has there been a single non-nintendo dominated week since the DS lite came out?

Well, by the assertions above, then I guess the DS Phat and GBA SP is where it's at (50% and 37%) increases respectivly. Retro is back!

Gotta love statistics... and satire lol.

lol salamajamas :D

It's good to see Sony on the rise and is it really a big deal if the DS fell 6%? everyone in Japan probably owns one, so I expect the sales to slowly drop until the next DS craze starts up.

DUN DUN DUN! Ahem...Excuse my lateness.

@Axel_Silver: Can I borrow some sand..? My vagina, unlike yours, is running low...

And as to what caused the drop in DS sales, one can only guess... My bet is that, as StrangeBum said, _everyone_ already owns one...

I think that this article did overdo it. I think a single sentence, maybe enhanced by an exclamation or two, might have done the trick better. Maybe something like this:

OMG! DS Lite sales are down THREE POINT NINE FOUR PERCENT in Japan this week!

Oh, and I also agree with StrangeBum and Mort. When you hit the bottom, you can only go up... and when you reach the top, you can only go down...

And besides, as they say in Japan, the nail that sticks up will be pounded down... and DS sales have been sticking up for a long time now, so maybe we should expect more pounding.

I feel bad for anyone who can't enjoy a term like "salmajamas".

Am I the only one who noticed #15 just called Joystiq, "engadget"

as usual, PS3 is pwning the competing 360.

as usual, fanboys think Wii is pwning the other systems, namely PS3, even though Wii is in a different league and is not a direct competitor, contrary to wat fanboys want to believe. do u Wii fanboys also compare cellphone games to arcade games?

Curmeo, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are all in DIRECT competition for MY DOLLARS. Some people want 1 console so they pick between Wii or the 360, or 2 consoles, and they have to pick between Wii60, WiiS2, or some times even WiiS3, so yeah... you're right, Nintendo isn't competing, they're DOMINATING.

And yes, cell phone games are in direct competition with arcade games for MY DOLLARS. Do I want to buy a $5 cell phone game or go drop $5 of quarters into a couple machines? I choose neither, and uh you, Pikachu?

Has there ever been a week where everything went up (or down)?

Purple Haze's comment made me laugh more than any of the actual post. Does that make me retarded?

Rubang B,

why dont u go ahead and include toilet paper in the mix? after all, toilet paper companies and nintendo are in DIRECT competition for YOUR DOLLARS! will you spend your money buying a bag of rolls to clean your ass or instead go for Cooking Mama?!

you dont get it: the *majority* of Wii owners do not own a 360 and/or PS3, in the same way as the majority of cell phone gamers do not visit the arcades every day.

Dont fool yourself into thinking a $250 game system (that has mostly casual games, a motion sensing remote largely designed for the casual gamer, and a joke of an online service) is directly competing with PS3/360, two systems that are made for hardcore gamers.

I love how some people try to convince themselves that the Wii isn't part of the competition. You've fell for Nintendo's tricks - of course they're in direct competition, they just dont want you to figure that out because you might then go and buy an Xbox360 or PS3 instead.

Don't fool yourself with the whole hardcore and casual gamers aswell - are you saying 120m PS2's sold were done so to hardcore gamers? I don't think so.

To win over the console market you NEED to pick up more casual gamers along the way than hardcore gamers, who don't make up the majority of the market.

@Curmeo

I know that, if the Wii didn't exist, I'd own a 360 by now. I was planning on buying a 360 last Christmas, but the Wii intrigued me. So, the Wii cost Microsoft my sale, and I'm sure there are many more like me.

I don't compare cell phone games to arcade games, or toilet paper for that matter (where the hell did that come from, your ass?)


But Usually it's alright to compare console games to console games. Are the 360 and PS3 in seperate leagues because they have different software formats?

Anonymous,

dont compare PS2 to Wii. last gen had totally different circumstances. Last gen all three consoles had similar hardware, software, and services:

a) all three consoles were prices similarly, $300 to $200.

b) all three consoles had similar controllers.

c) all three consoles had similar graphics/capabilities.

d) all three consoles had similar multiplatform and exclusive games.

e) atleast two consoles had online services.

this gen is totally different:

a) Wii is much cheaper than PS3/360.
b) Wii has a joke of an online service.
c) Wii remote is built for the casual gamer and *focuses* on motion sensing unlike Sixaxis.
d) Wii ports are casual versions of PS3/360 ports. whats Call of Duty 3 without online play, in 480i, with limited stereo sound, and with motion sensing controls? yes thats right, its a casual version of the hardcore PS3/360 version.
e) Wii focuses on casual games MUCH MORE than PS3/360 do.
f) Wii hardware is totally different than PS3/360 hardware. Wii doesnt even have a hard drive, has a much weaker GPU and CPU, has no no PPU, and has much less RAM.

@32 curmeo


throw toilet paper into the mix?? that was the worst analogy ive ever heard




and your really going to say there not in the same league because they target different audiences?? are you retarded??

the movie Knocked up targets a different audience of people than Hostel 2, but there both movies, targeting the audience that goes to the movies, and they want people who are only going to see one movie in the next month to see their movie


if your trying to say that the PS3 is winning because the wii dosent count as a contestant thats just fuckin hilarious, and even more so because you belittle fan boys in your post while saying this


i am amazed at the shit PS3 fanboys will say to defend there purchase, just calm down, you system dosent have to be the coolest for you to enjoy it


just because the Wii is beating the pants off all the other competitors in sales dosent make it any more fun to play, and the PS3 any less

although owning the winning system does make joystiq.com wayyy more fun....




and besides,as 33 pointed out, its nintendo that constantly claims there not competing directly with them and are going a different direction, thats just part of there propaganda to make the wii look even more unique, no one fell for it but you apparently

and lastly, do you think if there was no wii ever produced that the sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 would be the same as they are now??of course not, all the wii sales would be divvied up into them almost entirely,especially now that the 360 is only 50 dollars away in price

anyway thanks for the laugh

How come we never see any sales outside of japan?

@curmeo said
d) Wii ports are casual versions of PS3/360ports. whats
Call of Duty 3 without online play, in 480i, with limited stereo
sound, and with motion sensing controls? yes thats right, its a
casual version of the hardcore PS3/360 version.

that makes it more casual?? only the hardcore people can handle the intense audio capabilities and better HD resolution??

those casual gamers just dont know what to do when that 1080i is thrown in there face, they just run away to their casual version.... i know i cant handle it, thatswhy i bought a wii, im just not hardcore enough for a 360 yet...



@39

the rest of the sales charts dont come out officially as often,japans come out weekly

Sony's up because four big games were released on June 28th:

1st - Super Robot Wars: Original Generations (PS2)
5th - Ratchet and Clank 5 (PSP)
7th and 8th - Tales of Fandam Vol 2 (PS2)
19th - Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas (PS3)

If they can release games like that every week, then maybe they'll keep on going up.

Its nice to see wii sale so well to bad most of the games suck balls...

mo,

yes, having no online makes the Wii Call of Duty 3 version casual.

not having 5.1 surround sound makes it casual.

only supporting 480i makes the graphics and performance crappy. playing local splitscreen on 480i is horrible. this is 2007, not the PSX/N64 FPS era. even playing the single player campaign in 480i is a horrible experience as one finds it irritating to spot the enemy in the distance. again this is 2007, not 1996.

having gimmicky motion controls makes the Wii version crappy. PS3/360 controls are much smoother for the game.

@Curmeo,

Your points hold no water, technical specs of a console do not make it either a casual console or a hardcore console (even though I will never accept that a company is aiming for only the hardcore audience as that would be financial suicide)...how it's marketed is (and in that regard EVERYONE in the industry is looking to grab as many casual gamers as possible)

All i've gathered from your posts is that you do not like the Wii, from what I can see, you're trying to belittle the Wii simply because you dont like it.

It's quite easy to compare current gen consoles with last in this context - you're trying to convince people that the Wii isn't competition to either the Xbox360 or PS3 because they're going after a different market (casual and hardcore), would you therefore say the PS2 wasnt competition for the Xbox because the original Xbox catered for the hardcore gamers more whereas the PS2 was actually a casual gamers choice last gen?

The Wii IS in direct competition whether you believe it or not - the Wii will take sales away from the Xbox360 and PS3. Just because people say "oh you can buy two different consoles this gen, the Wii and [insert console of choice]" doesnt mean people actually will (as sales have seemigly proved).

@curmeo:

The 360 doesn't have a hard drive either, as far as developers are concerned.

5.1 and online do not hardcore make. I've been gaming longer than most of you here have been alive. I don't do online, and I don't give a flying flip about 5.1. I care about *games*, nothing more. The tech means little to me. I don't care if its "kiddie" or gunning down pedestrians, as long as it's fun and low maintenance. This generation doesn't fit both of those yet. Not enough games on 360 (IMHO, but borderline) or Wii, definitely not enough on PS3. The 360 doesn't fall under low maintenance by a longshot, and with all the firmware upgrades, neither does the PS3.

well its not ninja gaiden thats boosted the PS3's sales.

I wonder if its that cool looking "kids summer vacation" game i keep seeing advertised on the trains.. the on where you go swimming, catch insects and ride down the hills on carts. It certainly looks like the most fun games on the PS3 until LittleBigPlanet.

Wish my japanese was good enough to catch the title so i could look it up. Summer Vacation 3??

plz tell me wut i must do 2 b h4rdc0r3. i want 2 b hXc like you.. plz. should i sell my Wii for PS3?

OH MY GOOOD! the DSLite died like a dog!

Curmero is right the Wii does attract people to gaming who otherwise would not be seen dead with one. And because Wii brings new blood into gaming thats also good for MS and Sony, ironically.
Wii is good for sexual inuendo too, great for when that bird you've been wanting to shag for ages comes round ;p

Wow, Curmeo can't handle Nintendo being a successful videogame company. I wonder how he'd have gotten along in the 8/16-bit days. :p

Nice guys finish last ....

PS3 and 360 takeover ?