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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:21AM (Unverified) said

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wii Nights PWNS killzone 2!!!! Just kidding. But seriously, I want to fuck this game.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:25AM (Unverified) said

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I am sorry but this game looks better than Halo 3. I understand that Halo 3 is still a work in progress and im sure also this game.

But from what we've seen so far..Killzone 2 looks better.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:28AM (Unverified) said

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The fact remains that we're basically getting impressions of someone watching someone else playing a game. Clearly it's pretty (although oddly articles on that seem to be contradicting each other -- some thing the facial animation is amazing, others think its weird), but I don't know how excited I can get when no one writing these articles got to play it whatsoever.

I'm sure it'll be a good game either way, but considering that I don't know how it could be labeled a "killer" of anything yet.

I remember when Killzone was coming out and there were tons of articles about it being a possible "Halo killer" (I'm not a huge Halo fan to begin with, but whatever) and then it got lackluster reviews. It's still on the fence how that'll turn out.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:30AM (Unverified) said

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Ah, I love it. Usually the PS3 fans say things like "Who cares what IGN and Gamespot say? No one reads them! They must be paid off by MS."

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:41AM (Unverified) said

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Holy Sh&t! That trailer was awesome!! Everyone needs to check it out in HD: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21504.html

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:32AM Vidikron said

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@samfish

Dude, you the biggest Wii fanboy around and all you ever do is drop complaints about the other systems (especially PS3). So it's particularly difficult to take any complaints you have about PS3 graphics seriously...especially in light of the fact you are indeed a Wii fanboy.

But, yeah, I agree they fall short of the 05 CGI render, but to say they look "horrible"? That's simply ludicrous.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:07AM (Unverified) said

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Ahh, the ol' "you like something different, therefore your opinion is invalid" argument. My favorite. I expected better from you of all people, Vidikron.

Ok, let me rephrase it: the character models don't look horrible. They look like a dog barfed up it's own shit. I don't see Gears of War and think "Those are character models". So something is obviously wrong here, to my eyes.

It's like MP3 players before the iPod. They all sucked, but some sucked less than others before Apple got it 'right'. Killzone 2...looks to suck a little bit less than others, but it still hasn't gotten it 'right'.
I was fully expecting this to look more 'right' than anything I've seen to date, at the very least...I was expecting something a few rungs below Shrek. After reading reviews and reading comments, WHY SHOULD I HAVE EXPECTED ANY LESS?!

One more time: the in-game stuff looks good, the cut scene looks like dog vomit poo. Rigid, blocky character modeling killed it.
I don't care if it looks better than 98% of everything else out there. I'm going by what I was told to expect...and what I saw isn't what I expected.


Also, the only thing I typically rip on MS for is the RRoD and too many shooters/lack of games that interest me.
You're right, though – I don't like Sony. But that has less to do with their gaming division as it has to do with how they run the company and treat consumers and such as a whole.

But at least someone finally called me a Nintendo fanboy. You noticed! I was starting to feel lonely, always being left off the NDF roster.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:16AM Vidikron said

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@samfish

"Ahh, the ol' "you like something different, therefore your opinion is invalid" argument. My favorite. I expected better from you of all people, Vidikron. "

Where did I say that? That's pretty much YOUR view. All you ever do is rip the non-Nintendo systems and FPS games. The point I was was making is that it's a bit hard to take complaints about the KZ2 graphics from a known Wii fanboy given that the Wii is far inferior graphically to anyof the current systems... in fact, many of its games are worse than last gen games.

And, sorry, I still don't agree with your assessment on the models. Your stance is still completely asinine. They looked fine. Certainly far better than "horrible" or "dog vomit". Spare me.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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Where did you say it? You just reiterated it!

"The point I was was making is that it's a bit hard to take complaints about the KZ2 graphics from a known Wii fanboy given that the Wii is far inferior graphically to any of the current systems... in fact, many of its games are worse than last gen games."

If that isn't saying my opinion doesn't count because I happen to like the Wii, I don't know what is, man!

I told you what I think. I think it looks horrible in light of what I was expecting.

And I don't tend to 'rip' on FPSs. Unless by that you mean I occasionally say, "Blah...I don't like FPS games, there's too many of them."

Anyway, Nintendo thing should be starting soon. Seeya in that thread, I guess.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:08PM Vidikron said

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You don't understand what I'm saying!!! I'm saying your opinion is invalid because you like the Wii, I'm saying it's hard to take you seriously because you're such a fanboy about the Wii. And, seriously, how can you call those models dog barf? That's simply ludicrous. You would NEVER use those comments in reference to a Nintendo game even though the Wii can't come close to what is shown in the KZ2 video. THAT'S my problem with your comments. You aren't the least bit objective when commenting on non-Nintendo games.

Sorry, but you have dug yourself into this hole. No one takes your comments about other systems seriously because you continuously make stupid comments about anything non-Nintendo.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:10PM Vidikron said

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Ooops... that first part inmy last comment should say, "I'm NOT saying your opinion is invalid because you like the Wii".
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:40AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:52AM Triforceowner said

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I'm so glad i gave up on this game, because this trailer would have completely disappointed me. The thing I loved about the E305 trailer was that when the squad landed they were pitched into this really cool battle... but the battle in this trailer looked like a basic combination of Halo, Gears, and Resistance. I'm sure it will be a fun game, and it will make the idea of no Halo on the PS3 much more easier for some of the people who bought the PS3, but it just doesn't consist of the same gameplay as what we saw in the E305 trailer.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:04AM (Unverified) said

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wow, big surprise- someone with the name triforceowner "gives up" on a PS3 game that looks amazing based on the new trailer :roll:

That's like people giving up on Metroid Prime 3 because it looks like the same old crap. Yet as soon as a new video comes out for a wii game, everyone will be singing its high praises...*sign*
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:54AM Triforceowner said

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I'm so glad I gave up on this game, because this trailer would have completely disappointed me. The thing I loved about the E305 trailer was that when the squad landed they were pitched into this really cool battle... but the battle in this trailer looked like a basic combination of Halo, Gears, and Resistance. I'm sure it will be a fun game, and it will make the idea of no Halo on the PS3 much more easier for some of the people who bought the PS3, but it just doesn't consist of the same gameplay as what we saw in the E305 trailer.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:02AM (Unverified) said

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Okay, I, unlike some of the other XBOX fanboys here, thought this looked pretty good. No, it's nothing near the E32005 trailer, but it still looks damn good.

That aside, the Killzone franchise has been nothing better than mediocre. Therefore I really don't see why everyone is so up in arms about this game. If Halo 1 sucked, no one would have cared about Halo 2. Get it?

Here is where my fanboy side kicks in. Why is it that Sony fanboys always go on and on about how much Halo sucks, and how stupid the 360 is for having so many FPS games yet as soon as a trailer for a game is shown, they instantly label said game a "Halo Killer" and are excited to play it? So, they hate Halo, but they can't wait to play a game that's been dubbed the "Halo Killer".

Regardless, I must reiterate my point that this is the sequel to a game that got a 6.9 on Gamespot. Wow. I can't wait. Beyond that, I think I already played this game when it was called Resistance.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:10AM (Unverified) said

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Flame me all you want, but I wasn't that impressed.

The lighting seemed on par with Resistance and Gears, some of the textures were ridiculously low res (ship floor), and the smoke and fire were identical to COD2 (judging from this short clip, COD2 actually had better smoke effects).

It's good, but it's definitely not as cancer curing good as some of the comments would have you believe.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 10:45PM (Unverified) said

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This game will be flogged and hated because it will never look as good as the '05 trailer, no matter how fantastic it looks or plays. One of the reason series like Halo do so well is they hide the game until they have something fantastic to show that's actually in-game instead of mouth watering pre-rendered cinematics that the game can never live up to.

In my opinion Killzone 2 will always just be that game that TRIED to live up to it's announcement.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:22AM (Unverified) said

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Hey everyone

I did a comparison of this with Gears of War...

Check it out!

http://www.g1gahurtz.com/index.php?id=12

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:32AM (Unverified) said

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You do realise your comparing a pre-alpha demo with a completed game dont you? The textures in KZ2 are bound to be a little rough, its not finished yet!
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:46AM (Unverified) said

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This is not pre-alpha. I say mid to late alpha. Guerrilla has had 2 years to develop this game. Apparently the engine is working. The textures aren't "developed" by the same guys who develop the engine. Textures are made by artists parallel to the developing. Considering this is a WOW E3 presentation, those are textures are not hi res because the engine or the console can't handle it (yet). We'll have to see if the textures get better. But it's so much more than the textures, the game is dark, the physics aren't there and there's lots of graininess. If you factor in better textures, more colorful environments, less fog, full on physics and real AI; then luckily it will run at ~30 fps when it goes gold. If the game stays in the same quality as this stage, it might run at 60 fps.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 12:15PM (Unverified) said

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that's an impressive comparison g1gahurtz. good work with the images. you should post more of them.

the PC comparison is not really fair though.


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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:11PM (Unverified) said

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nice job, nice job keep on the good work......
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:21AM (Unverified) said

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I just saw the HD version of this years E3 video and a lower res video of e3 2005. Objectively speaking, this years demo didn't go even half the distance of the CGI render from 2005. The real time video looks so grainy and it has a lot of fog to avoid rendering and detail of some not so far objects. If you pause the HD video several times you can see the textures in the environment are low res, the only things that have hi res textures are the models and the vehicles.

The lightning and fire effects suck. The world in the CGI video was far more open and colorful than this one. Notice that my opinions sound negative, but I'm just comparing both the CGI and real time videos. Forget Halo 3, Gears of War, Crysis, or any other good looking game. This year's video lacks the fluidity, sharpness and fidelity of the pre rendered one.

If I hadn't seen the pre rendered video, I would've said that the game looks good. It does, but at this alpha/beta stage it's not that impressive grpahic, physics and gameplay-wise. The only thing sthat look cool are some models, the lighting (not lightning), and far away non interactive volumetric smoke.

If this game becomes a system seller, at this point is just because of the PR and trailers, it could end up being that good or a game which will maek you say: "I thought it was way better".

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:30AM (Unverified) said

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Totally agree.

In fact, I would go as far as saying COD4 looked better.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:25AM Triforceowner said

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Tom, you assume to much. You reply to my topic assuming I am some kind of fan boy. First of all, you assume that it was this trailer that made me give up on the game. I was a huge PS3 fan in 2005. I loved the PS3 and couldn't wait to get one. 2006's Sony E3 conference had me thinking otherwise, because they turned the console into a media player instead of the amazing console it had previously been. At that point I gave up on Sony and also this game.

Fast forward to now. I am glad that I gave up on the game, because if I had not than I would have been disappointed with the lack of gameplay I saw in the CGI trailer in this video.

By the way, I really don't like the 3D Metroid games. Call me old fashioned, but lock on systems and too much backtracking killed the game for me. I prefer the 2D ones.

So, Tom, what did we learn today? Don't assume anything about anyone you don't know or else you will have your virtual ass handed to you on a silver platter like St. John's head (bless his soul).

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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It was nothing personal Triforce- it just seems that way too many people (maybe not yourself per say) will bash almost anything, no matter what, if it is from Sony. And no offense, but the fact you state you gave up on Sony (and basically the PS3) before the system even came out, makes you lose alot of credibility.

But I totally agree with you about Metroid- I'll take Super Metroid (arguably my favorite SNES game along with FF3, Chrono Trigger and Yoshi's Island) over Metroid Prime anyday.

Anyway, again, didn't mean to make it personal. It's just the all the mindless Sony bashing that goes on these days is incredibly annoying- and I'm not even a fanboy. I have all three current gen systems, and view things quite objectively.

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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:30AM MosquitoControl said

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Watching the high-res, the graphics seem rough but nice, and I'm sure they'll get much more polished. Lacking the polish of Halo 3 at the moment, though, and that's going to be what it's judged against (even if the style is much more similar to Gears.)


But the gameplay... awful. It looks like a shiny new engine with dated gameplay. Yeah, the column blowing apart is cool, but that's it. Every other aspect of the gameplay looks terrible. Not that you see much, so it's unfair to judge, but whoever put this video together really needed to pick better things.
The action is weak.
The models show nothing to indicate they're being shot.

Reminds me of early FPS games from last-generation. Reminds me of Killzone 1 with a new engine. That's a very bad thing.



I don't understand why anyone is caring about this when Bioshock is coming. The ONLY reason I can guess is that PS3 owners want to be able to moot Halo. Let Halo moot itself, Halo 3 is almost definitely going to be more of the same. It's time to move on to something new.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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Now this is what im talking about, just wait 360 jokers the power of the Cell its comming its comming......

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:35AM Shagittarius said

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And yet another great reason to own a PS3.

Looking forward to it, haters can stroke their e-penises.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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Xbox 360 fanboys, just reed em and weep. You can't deny the graphics is amazing. The Halo 3 trailer was god awful...especially with cardboard trees and retard bumpmapping. The reason why Master Chief wears a helmet and has no real name is because it gives room for Halo geeks to imagine themselves wearing that invulnerable 7-foot suit and saving the universe.Ever wondered why the enemies in halo act silly in an extremely cheesy manner? I know you have one cardboard halo suit in your closet... just accept the fact that KZ2 is up to expectations and you were proven wrong after posting that "OMG FAKE SHYT!" comment 2 years ago or you could play your damn Halo 2 again and again whilst wearing your Gay costume and jerking off to cortana.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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Firstly, calling people fanboys just because they don't orgasm over this trailer is foolish.

Secondly, I indeed can deny that the graphics weren't amazing. They were good, but not 'I need to buy a PS3' great. In fact, several posts before yours detailed why they thought the trailer was lackluster. PS3 owners need are inflating this trailer to make up for their console purchase - and I don't blame them. Just don't get bitchy when other people call you on it.

In response to the rest of your post, I suggest you make sure your teacher/mom/dad doesn't see it and take away your computer privileges.

That would suck.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:50AM Triforceowner said

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Tom, who knows, but in two hours I could have a completely different outlook on Sony. It happened last year. I swapped from Sony to Microsoft. Now I might just flip-flop again.

Just because I say, "I have given up on Sony and the PS3," doesn't mean I can't withdraw that statement. And if Sony focuses on games this year and really pulls through with Home, than I might just withdraw it.

I wouldn't expect anyone to grasp that from what I said earlier, though, so no fault to you.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:54AM cc123 said

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The people here that are saying this game looks average or horrible come off looking like nothing more than Sony hating shitbags.

Guerrilla/Sony showed a game that is doing so many things right and actually got inside the ballpark of that unachievable 2005 trailer.

Eat crow haters this is the best looking console game I've seen. That trailer is fantastic.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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this isn't trying to be a Halo-Killer, Sony and Guerilla are aiming point blank at being a first person Gears of War.

the cover and blind-fire system, the heavy emphasis on characters and dialogue, the camera work...there's tons of great atmospheric stuff going on, it's all extremely cinematic and that's what's really leaving the biggest impression in everybody.

just like Gears did when it debuted. the original PS2 Killzone was only called "Halo Killer" because Gears hadn't been made yet.

Halo is a completely different game from these two, focusing much more on what some would call "purer" others would say "old", classic FPS mechanics. in Halo's well-received singleplayer campaign, it's still more about the awesome AI that acts like real human players than it is about actual cinematic story telling. the Halo series for better or worse, has become much more like Unreal Tournament than Gears of War or Killzone. it's all still all about the frag.

it's easy to see from this trailer that Guerilla stopped looking at Halo ages ago and have since been focused on out-Gearing Gears. with these games, it's about the smoke, your war buddies, the chips of your cover flying above your head. even the gameplay is awfully similar. there's a scene where one of your buddies is out in the open and taking hit after bloody hit and he's still standing and shooting just like you see so often in Gears. its striking.

technically, the character models do suffer quite a bit in the transition from CG to realtime, but fault Sony for setting unrealistic expectations in the first place. they really need to stop with the CG trailers, it's a shame they had nothing to else to resort to so late in the game (2005).

this is going to be PS3's Gears of War, not Halo. that was Resistance's job.



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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 12:16PM (Unverified) said

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You see Sony this is what PS3 gamers need, more exclusives more killer games more innovation more graphics fidelity and gameplay; keep doing this and you will make PS3 gamers return to the KING and to your heart Playstation.............

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 7:26PM (Unverified) said

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Wait..now i know why i stopped visiting this retarded website..the amount of hate is unbelievable..GG came in and showed what will be considered the trailer of teh show..Sure i admit the graphics are awesome..but it will only get better..before we saw this trailer alot of people have been doubting and comparing GG of the ps2 days to the new and improved GG.i hope all the doubters can now eat their words..
The Animations in that trailer is second to none..maybe Uncharted comes close and thats it.. the game is on another level technically..the amount of things the game is pushing at once is unbelievable.. The physics, the blood, and the explosions were awesome and they will get better..Pre-alpha stage(means somethings are good and some arent so good..WIP)
Some of the comments i have read so far have been really laughable at best.. But I'll post my full assesment of this trailer in a while..

The Halo 3 trailer was awesome aswell.. the graphics were good..and i wished the anmations were better..hope fully they can still rework them a little before release.. I think the Ms press Conference was alright.. It did was it was supposed to do and thats show the strong fall lineup that Microsoft has.. kinda wished new ip's were revealed..but we'll have to wait till the lipzeig game convention before we see that..

At the Moment Killzone ps3 is the most impressive all around game i has seen. IMO

Fanboys Feel Free to rip apart my comments cuz thats what you do..

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 12:52PM (Unverified) said

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A Killzone 2 Dev has confirmed this game is a Pre-Pre Alpha build at the moment.

The game is scheduled to be released in 2008. They have PLENTY of time to fix these small imperfections.

Anyway, the game DOES look good for a FPS. I honestly do believe it looks like the best console FPS out yet, and there is a long way to go for the game in terms of polishing and so on.

Also, why the hell is everyone comparing how it doesn't look like the CGI target render? That wouldn't be possible at all. Not on any system. The PC would even struggle to get something exactly like that.

But I think Guerilla Games have pulled of a fantastic job with the new trailer. It looks brilliant. I could post over 50 screenshot showing the quality of the Killzone 2 graphics.

Oh and the same K2 dev gave a hint that Killzone 2 will have rumble, and claimed the trailer they've shown isn't the only Killzone footage for E3. They will show more at the Sony Conference in a few hours I think? I live in the UK so there is a timesone seperation.

He also said over half of the animations they've made weren't in the trailer.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:02PM (Unverified) said

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manic,
everyone is comparing them to the CG trailer (like with Motorstorm) only because Sony said it was representative of the PS3. yes, most of us knew it wasn't possible, but Sony still put it out there as such.


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Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:20PM (Unverified) said

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lololol

i love the people desperately trying to find a negative here.

we *ALL expected the game to not match up to the CGI trailer of, oh, *TWO YEARS AGO, so no surprise there.

but no one expected the title to come as close as it has, especially as it's in *PRE ALPHA stage.

this game still has, at the least, a years development time, and it's looking like this.

that's *INCREDIBLE.

the trailer is wonderful, and the people that aren't impressed are stalwart Sony haters who can't give them credit where it's due, and never will, even if, by release date, the game meets (or maybe exceeds), the old trailer.

and to jsn: just stop. i know you're hurting and bitter. but just stop. you're sounding very pathetic with your whining about the cookie cutter feel of the game.

people said the same thing about Call of Duty 1 when it first debuted in the shadow of Medal of Honor. after release, it was hailed as a near challenger to the throne.

you can't base your opinion of this game off of a 2 minute trailer, which hardly consisted of much gameplay.

this trailer was to simply show us that yes, Killzone 2 is real, and yes, it's looking rather close to the original trailer, and in it's pre alpha stage. the next few trailers released will center around more gameplay.

Sony needs to start airing this commercial on TV when advertising the PS3, so regular folks that don't peruse the internet everyday can see what the PS3 can do.

what's funny about this, is that i'm not actually a big fan of Killzone.

i love the art design, but i thought the game design was beyond what the PS2 was capable of at the time (nowadays, looking at games like God of War 2 and FFXII, to name only two, i think if Guerilla Games had made Killzone 1 now, it'd probably run better and smoother), but this looks like the hardware is finally on par with their design document for the game, so i'm more interested in seeing how it plays out.

this first glimpse at the game is a promising one. why must people on this site *STILL hate?

i also don't like that my avatar is a Mario avatar. i don't like Mario (i've gotten over the little guy in my over 23 years of gaming), and it makes this site seem kind of, i dunno, *BIASED.

at least let us choose our own avatar, joystiq.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 1:59PM (Unverified) said

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ha,ha,ha 360 jokers you never thought you are going to see someyhing like this before, and i dont get why you people say that KZ1 was a bad game it was not an excelent game but and average and good game....

shame on you, shame on you.....

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 2:02PM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for the compliments!

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 2:07PM (Unverified) said

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Your welcome G1GAHURTZ, nice job.........

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 3:20PM (Unverified) said

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i almost S**t my pants watching this trailer,
amazing simple amazing.....

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 4:50PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, you Sony fan boys can't really be serious. You see a clip of the game and you're already trying to declare it better than Halo 3. Not sure if anyone else has chimed this in yet but Halo 3 will out sell this game hands down, 100%. Anyone who believes these graphics are the actual beta build and not a polished demo are fooling themselves. Sony doesn't have the room to be able to show an actual beta build of this game after the hype for the graphics they started with the CGI trailer. Sure, the game is going to look real nice when they're done but I still say they're fooling you guys into thinking that this is the beta version of the game so the final build is going to look significantly better.

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 6:48PM (Unverified) said

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I love how you PS3 fanboys think this game is good. First off, models = low poly pieces of shitty blocks. Second: I think lego starwars had more detailed textures than this shitty game. Third: The cell may be powerful but I am laughing at how shitty the GPU is in the PS3. CELL + GPU DOES NOT TOUCH 360 + GPU

Posted: Jul 11th 2007 7:48PM (Unverified) said

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Oh my mind, i dont know people but feel that i want to cry, this is the most amazing trailer i ever seen in my life, is soo deep soo cinematic soo Hollywood, im not a PS3 fan; i love Xbox 360 but do not tell me any 360 fanboy that this does not looks impresive, and if you do not want to accept it thats okay, but that is your desicion not mine, is not the best graphic game but its far more better than many good games out there, the
gameplay looks solid,good and nice effects,nice
weapons,nice levels desing, did you people see the blood it looks soo real, the explosion on the door or gate inside a level looks soo real, the enemy are freaking cool and smarts, simple amazing Guerrilla amazing, i think that this is the game that would make gamers to buy a PS3; bravo Sony and Guerrilla bravo best wishes...

Posted: Jul 12th 2007 12:33PM (Unverified) said

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!Damn i dont know what`s going on with me, but i been watching this trailer over and over again is soo emotional, im soo in Love with this game people......

Posted: Jul 12th 2007 9:54PM (Unverified) said

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Yes, SONY lied to us about the 2005 trailer being IN GAME. Get over it, that was exposed *YEARS* ago. This is the first look at the ACTUAL game ever.

I agree that this is probably a VERY polished section that they've completed, and so although they say its PRE-PRE-ALPHA, this is more indicative of what it will look like later.

Still though, I never thought it would look this good. Gears of War's frame rate issues in big/wide angle scenes bothered me, but the fly in scene here had no hiccups. I think Gears of War's models faces look better, but I think thats more of an art direction decision. Overall, I like the way Killzone 2 looks over Gears of War. Its a combination of many things, not just *Gears has higher res textures in more places.

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