Nyko is still not sure if they'll go to market with this concept for a wireless Xbox 360 guitar, and until we saw the
Red Octane wireless guitars it was an option which made sense. The guitar is still viable, anything for a buck, but it just seems strange now given the relatively close future option. The reason for this guitar and its awkward set-up goes back to the whole mess with
Microsoft's proprietary wireless. Nyko came up with a wireless guitar (seen above left) which uses a wired Xbox 360 controller and the white box (center) as a receiver for the signal. The box acts as a bridge for the wireless. The catch is the fact you need a wired controller which retails at $39.99. The guitar could either be -- they're floating prices -- $59 or $69 dollars, raising the question of whether people would pay $10 or $20 less for a wireless guitar which avoids the possibility of the Microsoft licensing fee being passed on to consumers. Once again,
the licensing fee is pure speculation at this point, but nobody is saying anything at Red Octane, Harmonix, or Microsoft about it -- send up the red flags.
But here's the key to this guitar -- it works really well. Really, really, well! While testing it we walked out of the room, across the hall, hid behind a stand and the only reason we started missing notes was because it was hard to see the screen from 60+ feet. Is the guitar worth filling the wireless gap for the few months that Red Octane waits to release their guitars with
Guitar Hero III? That's up to the consumer, if Nyko decides to release the guitar. The hidden cost in this product is the wired controller, which raises the question of how big will they have to put those words on the box for the average consumer to see and register the information? The whole thing is still a toss-up about what they'll do, but as for the quality and functionality of the guitar -- it's definitely working.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Shagittarius @ Jul 16th 2007 11:03AM
Ummm...is that an effects pedal I see on the desk or is it a fake effects pedal that just does something to make the wireless controller work?
Trenholmes @ Jul 16th 2007 11:24AM
rtfa
sederien @ Jul 16th 2007 11:21AM
This is one of those situations in which I would have liked to have been in on the initial development meetings. The reasoning behind creating such a setup with the "white box" and a wired 360 controller would have been interesting to hear.
I honestly can't see it being defended as a reasonable convenience to any but a specialized market.
Core users with wired controllers?
They don't have a hard drive to download (potentially overpriced) song packs!
- From the "I wonder what they were thinking" department.
360chick @ Jul 16th 2007 11:25AM
Its amazing how people dont read the article then ask dumb questions about it. Read the article moron, it talks about what that is for about a half of a paragraph.
Shmil @ Jul 16th 2007 11:25AM
i noticed the pedal as well and i'm pretty sure i remember hearing about pedals for rhythm games and nyko might be trying to take a step ahead of everyone else,
that or they just wanted to make the receiver box a little nice to look at
dark54555 @ Jul 16th 2007 11:26AM
Wouldn't this work with a play and charge kit? I thought that gave a full connection, not just battery re-charging.
YoRone22 @ Jul 16th 2007 10:52PM
Play and charge kits don't do anything but charge it. Therefore I can keep my play and charge kit connected to my PC and play 360.
Sam @ Jul 16th 2007 11:28AM
The white box, if you read the article, is part of the wireless setup.
Please read + engage brain before commenting.
Thank you
Jacob P. @ Jul 16th 2007 11:39AM
I still thought the white box was something completly different...I read the article, but I missed the part "a wired Xbox 360 controller and" when I was reading it...so I was confused as to why everyone was like read the article, then post...I'm glad I didn't post anything before I re-read the article.
steve @ Jul 16th 2007 11:43AM
kind of suck that they cant make it hook into the usb port.....but hey its a cool start
and the black and white checkered guitar is sweet
Roddie @ Jul 16th 2007 11:43AM
I thought this also worked with the official Guitar Hero 2 guitar instead of a wired controller, and surely 99% of people with the game have the guitar as well, so the hidden cost of a wired controller is a non-issue.
Alex @ Jul 16th 2007 11:57AM
Buy a wired controller to use a wireless guitar, meh...
Didn't we buy Premium/Elite xboxes to avoid wired controllers????
Jake @ Jul 16th 2007 12:26PM
Joystiq, you are missing the point. The idea is this guitar is cheaper than the alternative. For it to be cheaper, you have to already own a wired controller, or want to own one anyways. Otherwise, why the hell would you pay more money to get a guitar + controller just to have a working wireless guitar and avoid the licensing fee? Right? Or am I missing something? Is Nyco the only people looking to make a wireless guitar, or will there be a Red Octane branded one or something?
pew @ Jul 16th 2007 12:30PM
Would a wireless controller with its play&charge kit connected to the Nyko box work like a wired controller?
Chris @ Jul 16th 2007 12:53PM
Why not have a usb dongle as a wireless receiver like wireless controllers for xbox, ps2, and gamecube? Since everyone is able to make a usb controller y not have it send the same signal from the guitar to the usb receiver as you would through a usb wire from a controller to the system
Greg @ Jul 16th 2007 2:45PM
It sounds like a good idea but they're not fools. I guarantee they've looked into such an obvious alternative and I'm sure they have a good reason for not using it. It sounds like Microsoft has the 3rd party peripheral makers backed into a corner and it's messed up. I always bought 1st party controls for the primary controllers, but to not be able to have any other wireless peripherals is messed up and a step backwards this generation..
Greg @ Jul 16th 2007 2:51PM
No, the wireless controller with play&charge kit wouldn't work or they wouldn't have said wireless controller only. There was another device previously that required a wired controller and that was the keyboard and mouse adapater.
brandon @ Jul 16th 2007 4:00PM
I'm not sure why you need a wired controller. It's obviously part of the design that you need one, but why couldn't they just build the white box that receives from the guitar, then translates it into regular button presses without the extra controller? Microsoft may be charging for use of the built in wireless, but who is to say that you can't just make a USB receiver that operates on another wireless standard? Obviously Microsoft is letting companies make wired controllers, so it would seem the signals to send through USB are readily available to peripheral makers, who would just need to then use RF or something. All previous wireless controllers have just used the regular ports, with some kind of wireless tacked on to the plug.