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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:05AM (Unverified) said

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Holy God Damn! Look at those graphics!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:08AM (Unverified) said

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I just peed my pants a little looking at that. :O
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:53AM Pete C said

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I played the demo on Xbox Live...the graphics are totally insane. I have never seen anything yet this realistic. During the cutscenes many times you literally cannot tell that it is not real, yet it is in-game graphics.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:10AM (Unverified) said

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something they didn't mention is how good it SOUNDS as well.

When I first loaded this up, I forgot I had my surround cranked, and I almost shit my pants. Very deep bass and solid use of the surrounds.

I hate them for having the stick+game for $150, because that's $150 less in my pocket come the end of the year.

Oh and the demo is a blast. Easily repeat play worthy, and a great demo to show people getting into HD gaming.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:13AM Burritoclock said

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my post below was written before this one...
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:12AM Burritoclock said

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Have you played the demo? Those screens are accurate unlike most, it looks simply gorgeous!

Here's to hoping the actual gameplay is just a smidgen more exciting than the demo and this will be a winner.

(Say goodbye to another $150, damn flight stick)
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:14AM (Unverified) said

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Dudes, did none of you play Ace Combat 5? It looks exactly the same to me. They barely did anything to improve the terrain.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:17AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah I played it...and it doesn't hold a candle to Ace Combat 6.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:15AM (Unverified) said

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BUT ANDREW YOON IS TOBIAS FOR PS3!!!!!1

This game looks phenomenal.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:12AM chrisgrant said

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i no, rite? Don't tell him this is only coming out on xSUX 306! lolz
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:19AM (Unverified) said

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Should be fun achievements, double barrol role with a 360 twist - 5g :-D!
Looks Swish, can't wait!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:58AM hvnlysoldr said

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Do a barrel roll! Press Z err right or left trigger twice!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:28AM (Unverified) said

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I thought that the graphics were good, but to be honest, I wasn't totally blown away. The intro stuff looked great, but when you're flying thousands of feet up, and attacking enemies from a distance, the attention to detail is completely lost.

Also, the ground textures, while nice from the sky, were extremely flat up close. The action was also kinda bland, it was exactly like every other flight game before it - to me it was no different that Ace Combat 2 for PSX.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:44AM (Unverified) said

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You have to take into consideration that flight sim engines are incredibly taxing on resources. It's just not feasible to model every detail - especially when the majority of the viewing is going to be from high altitudes.

Every flight sim in the history of videogames experiences pixelated rendering when you get within the 100 feet range, it's just the nature of the beast. What Ace Combat 6 does so well is map high resolution satellite textures as well as model detailed buildings and other terrain objects.

The only flight sim that graphically compares to the ground detail is probably Lock On Modern Air Combat - and that's only because it incorporates multi resolution texture blending for different altitudes.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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regardless, the textures, while looking flat, lose a ton of fidelity up close. I understand that these games may be taxing, but the article explicitly says that the ground textures hold up quite well, which I didn't necessarily agree with.

My real point was that when you have such nice visuals, the detail is lost on you when you are only shooting at little blips on your HUD, and not seeing the high polygon models that are in the images. Impressive visuals indeed, but no matter how good they look, the detail won't show from 1000 feet away when you shoot them down with a missile (which by the way have a pretty damn good effect on them).

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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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"My real point was that when you have such nice visuals, the detail is lost on you when you are only shooting at little blips on your HUD"

Well, that's the way modern flight combat works...besides, the beauty of the game is in the environment, not the enemy aircraft.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:39AM IslandLife said

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Wow, I'm a bit envious of you 360 guys. I've been playing this series since PS1 days and it's become one of my most loved series. I hope this comes soon to the PS3, but I'm glad you guys get to see how great this series really is.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:11AM horngreen said

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Having played the Combat Flight Simulator series on PC this seems a bit dumbed down. It does look great and maybe the demo doesn't do it justice but truly fun dogfights in a game can only be done with prop planes IMHO. Firing a missile at a red square miles and miles away just doesn't seem as fun. In Combat Flight Sim you had to actually understand a large amount about flying a plane. I just wish these console games had more sim settings.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:41AM DjDATZ said

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I've been playing this since AC2 (i never could find the original anywhere for a reasonable price...) on PS2, and when I heard that AC6 was exclusive for 360, i was ecstatic.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:42AM sand0789 said

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You say "us guys" like people who own 360's (or rather don't own PS3's) have never played an Ace Combat game. You don't understand the 360 userbase very well. We didn't just start playing games when the xbox brand, catered towards hardcores, came out.

I thought the demo was sweet. This is NOT a flight sim, though, even though it looks realistic and has fairly realistic weapons. AC games have never really been about simulation.

My big question is how well online multiplayer will work. This could be awesome if it has objective type missions similar to FPS games like attack and defend, capture the flag, king of the glowing air sphere, etc.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:52AM (Unverified) said

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This game further justifies my recent Elite purchase :)
Now all I need is a next-gen Mega Man X game and good God I'll be set.

~HotShotX
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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Finally! The Ace Combat 6 gets some damned play. I first rented AC5 about two years ago, and had it beat by the end of my three day rental. I've been a fan since. AC6 has looked groin grabbingly good since I first saw it, and I'm glad someone new to the series (like me, just a scant few months ago) was able to pick up and get some serious enjoyment out of it.

To simply state that the combat, of Ace Combat, is "intense" is a horrid understatement; just pick it up and go at a few missions and you will realize this.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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Holy hell man. I saw this demo for DL, but didn't bother since I was never really into the series. Guess I'll have to try it now.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 10:56AM (Unverified) said

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I agree with Chris. The trailers made it seem like the graphics would completely outstanding/uber fantastic but the game itself was just meh...

It was nice. And it was decent. But nothing made me go, "WOW" like Gears did. I'm not saying that Gears should be the standard for every single game. But it would have been nice to notice something that amazed me. The buildings and the ground below looked very crappy to me. And the controls were a lil hard to get used to.

Is that how all flight games are like these days? This really isn't my genre of games so I was experimenting with the demo for quite some time.

Anyways I'm gonna mull over this one before I make any decision. I really want a nice flying game to enjoy with friends this fall. I thought the Wii would have some but none of those have gotten good reviews so I'm still waiting.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:07AM (Unverified) said

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I don't understand how you can not like flight games, and then nice graphics changes your opinion instantly.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:47PM Vidikron said

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If someone played pitfall they might decide they don't like platformers. Then later they might play a Mario game and decide they do based on the graphics upgrade alone. Graphics DO make a difference. I wish people would quit pretending they don't.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 1:42PM McSmack said

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Indeed. Graphics intensify the sense of realism, therefore making it an extra involving experience.
It becomes more fun to play around with, and you'll be likely to give it more time to like it. Also, graphics are the first thing to attract new players, like the article proves.

So they *do* matter.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:11AM MosquitoControl said

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Graphics looked good, although there could be more buildings.

But the gameplay... it's just circling around, firing and forgetting. The arcade nature managed to make something alread boring (modern air combat) and make it worse.

And don't get me started on the constantly appearing videos of my pilots in my squadron saying the same three lines over and over. Developers - unless my fellow pilots are talking toads, I don't want to see them. Their faces are blocking out something important. And they all look the same in their flight gear!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:14AM deaftly said

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the demo for this game is simply incredible, this is one game i know ps3 owners must be pissed about not having
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 1:08PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah. I'm a little disappointed I can't play a next-gen Ace Combat until it gets ported or 7 comes out. There are lots of other games I liked more, but this was always a good one.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:14AM (Unverified) said

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I LOVE the Ace Combat series and always have since it was called Air Combat! This new chapter looks great. It's a shame that I won't be playing this since it won't be available for PS3. Please namco bring this to PS3 or you will break a young ace's heart.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:16AM hvnlysoldr said

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Princess Rosetta looks shinier than these graphics and flight simulation is not my style. My brother enjoyed Sega's flight arcade but other than that we'd rather enjoy RPG's or Nintendo games.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:27AM (Unverified) said

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Damn those graphix are sweet.

You can even see the pores in the F16

Good job MS, good job.

Also when will they make a true sequel to X-Wing vs TIE fighter?
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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good job MS????

you do realize that Namco makes this game right?
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 3:59PM (Unverified) said

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That NEEDS to happen. I had a blast with the whole x-wing series, but Vs. took it to a whole new level. I ended up dropping some cash on a flightstick setup just to get an edge in multiplayer.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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Wasn't it already confirmed to be a timed exclusive at the Sony Tokyo event?

I still need to play the last few PS2 AC games, so I can wait... ;)
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:43AM (Unverified) said

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Are those in-game screenshots? I'm finding that hard to believe, but that's what everyone seems to be insinuating.

If so, that's freakin' awesome!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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It's a timed exclusive for PS3 and will be out next year. This game will fare the same as some of the PS3 games that eventually came out on 360. They will be polished further and have the benefit of a standard installed hard drive and will probably have an install option as well.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:54AM (Unverified) said

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AC and Burrito, I am with both of you!!

The sound on my Onkyo 6.1 is beyond description!! The first time I fired it up and the planes took off, my pictures flew off the wall from the vibrating bass from the subwoofer on the floor.

Every non gamer that I showed this to, went beserk for it!! They could not believe it was a game. I believe this will sell systems.

Burrito, I am with you brother, I will own the flight stick, without question!!

32 man deathmatches, are you kidding me?? LOL.....VIDEO CRACK!!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 11:56AM (Unverified) said

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Its very pretty, but boring as hello. Wildly swing around until you get a red box. Fire. Rise and repeat. Snoooze. WWII air combat games are much more interesting.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:05PM (Unverified) said

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Being in the actual Air Force myself I might be a little biased (okay, a lot biased, I'll admit it), but Ace Combat 4, 5, and Zero have had amazingly interesting stories to go with the gameplay. And while I haven't been able to download the demo yet as my 360 fell to the Ring of Death the day before it hit the marketplace, I can already (quietly, so that no one will hear) admit that I will be getting the flight stick as well. I missed out on one when AC5 came out, and I've regretted that to this day. It looks beautiful; can't wait until release!
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:34PM GamGams said

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The demo was insanely dull. I'm a longtime fan of the series, but this demo was way too damn slow and easy. There was no challenge at all. Otherwise it worked fairly well as a standard "if it ain't broke don't fix it" sequel and I look forward to it (and the harder difficulty settings).
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:11PM (Unverified) said

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Ok, so this is another good reason to get me an Elite ASAP, now, if I only had money -_-
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 8:03PM (Unverified) said

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It better be good like AC4 and not suck like AC5 and AC0
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:49PM (Unverified) said

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Wow! That just looks amazing. I may have to pre-order this one.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 12:59PM MosquitoControl said

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You preorder games based on graphics alone?
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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Do you have a problem with it? Its HIS money and his opinion. If he wants to buy a game based on how it looks who are you to tell him not to?

I wanted the game because its been a LONG time since I've played a flight type of game and I thought one solely devoted to flight might be awesome. Especially on the 360 since I thought the attention to details both graphically and gameplay would be great.

But as someone mentioned early the demo was kinda boring. In all honesty the graphics were okay but nothing amazing. Just an average game so far.

Hopefully it will improve but this close to being released I doubt it. So we'll see.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 1:00PM MosquitoControl said

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I'm with you, although I prefer WWI still. Nothing like having to worry about leading a plane with your guns, making sure no one gets on your tail, trying not to black/red out, and avoiding pulling too hard and ripping your own wings off.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 1:04PM (Unverified) said

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"Our brief time with Ace Combat 6 was a fun, visceral experience. The game will support online multiplayer through Xbox Live ... and we can't wait."

I also like to read the article associated with the pictures. This particular article gave this game a good review, which would lead me to want to buy it.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2007 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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I personally think a WWI flight sim would be friggin' awesome. Anyone else?
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