Unreal Tournament 3 not using Games for Windows Live
by Ross Miller 
{ Jul 20th 2007 at 8:45PM }
Rein said that they have not decided about cross-platform play between PC and the PlayStation 3. "We're not 100% sure that users want that feature but if we get time we'll play around with it and see how it works," he said. Sony's console will have the ability to share PC mods, so the the logistics of PC vs. PS3 play shouldn't be too hard.
No release date has been given but Unreal Tournament 3 has been confirmed as a timed exclusive for the PS3.
Gallery: Unreal Tournament III
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Vince UK @ Jul 20th 2007 8:51PM
Is that irony?
wontonlu @ Jul 20th 2007 8:53PM
HAHAHah 360suxors, ps3FTWbaby1111!!!/one1
baby sea tuna @ Jul 23rd 2007 8:38AM
Oh! So _that's_ what a retard seizure looks like!
Project Ekim @ Jul 20th 2007 8:54PM
Didnt epic just build games for windows live into the unreal engine 3 wow that is irony.
Project Ekim @ Jul 20th 2007 9:04PM
wontonlu do we really have to recall all the exclusives Ps3 lost to the xbox 360 or how bout sonys nice bait and swtich.
Phranctoast @ Jul 21st 2007 8:28AM
you could probably figure out a way to act bigger then that and simply shut up.
jp @ Jul 20th 2007 9:05PM
hmmmm things to come
mike @ Jul 20th 2007 9:09PM
its a shame unreal tournament games blow chunks. Super fast paced random noob rocket action. How boring. This will never change. I love the unreal engine, but cant stand those unreal games.
Avatar @ Jul 20th 2007 9:12PM
I suppose you'd rather camp and snipe like a little girl?
sheppy @ Jul 20th 2007 9:59PM
Because you've played it, right? After all, I'm sure a TON of FPS games feature the ability to snag a passing 4x4 witha tetherline so you can hoverboard across the map back to the action. Or needing to coordinate the teamwork needed to do well on Onslaught. And of course, let's not forget the mod I'm working on, the ability to run and start flying like an angel.... but because that's what my mod will be... an angel. A dark, horrifying angel (a fallen Seraph if you will) but an angel nonetheless.
Oh wait, this doesn't have the game mode shotty snipers... PHAIL.
razer @ Jul 20th 2007 10:13PM
Mark Rein has also stated that the 360 version could very well see MODs as well. Big deal about cross-platform play been using it on Shadowrun and I can't say it adds to the experience at all.
sheppy @ Jul 20th 2007 10:50PM
For that to happen, Microsoft needs to open up the hard drives. I don't see them doing any such thing anytime soon. But they'll be more than happy to charge you for mods.
hvnlysoldr @ Jul 20th 2007 10:19PM
Oh snap!
ExMcloud @ Jul 20th 2007 10:33PM
It doesn't add experience yet but cross platform play will be good eventually...Second Epic has to go thru Micro soft to make it PC compatible regardless of the fact plus PS3 users would be at a huge disadvantage since FPS's don't really control that well on the dual shock. Anyway its gonna be a good game so Im glad PS3 guys are getting a quality FPS but on the 360 side this is just another shooter
Shane @ Jul 21st 2007 1:58AM
The PS3, I am assuming, could allow people to play with a keyboard and mouse.
Joe @ Jul 20th 2007 10:50PM
Thank god for that. Keep them separate.
eldee @ Jul 20th 2007 10:54PM
yeah, it's bad enough on the PC end with people crying about alleged hacks and exploits. We totally don't need people going around crying "ZOMG U HAVE CONSOLE AUTOAIM NOOB" every time they get nailed by somebody better than them (console or PC).
Spiza @ Jul 21st 2007 12:07AM
PC gamers don't windows live. They're used to better free services.
Free mods on the PS3 sounds exciting though, especially if they let you use mouse/keyboard. This could replace my PC fps gaming.
RTCW > Unreal btw though.
BananaBoat @ Jul 21st 2007 12:22AM
Wait, wait, hold the phone, if I buy it for PS3, I can play MODS and not just user created maps? That might sway my dollars from 360 (which I was going to buy it for, for live support) to the PS3. User created maps and mods are what makes Unreal Tournament games the greatest multiplayer experience to be had on any platform (IMO).
I just hope the framerate on the PS3/360 is good. If I have to spend hundreds of dollars on an 8800GTS just so I can get a good framerate, I'll be pissed. The game is a surefire excellent game, no doubt about it, but those graphics...wow....if a console can handle them at full, I'll cry tears of joy.
manic @ Jul 21st 2007 7:14AM
Fortunately, you are in luck.
The PS3 version of UT3 runs better than Gears Of War did on the 360, confirmed by Mark Rein.
:)
Jeff @ Jul 21st 2007 3:28AM
"Wait, wait, hold the phone, if I buy it for PS3, I can play MODS and not just user created maps? That might sway my dollars from 360 (which I was going to buy it for, for live support) to the PS3."
Yes, you can supposedly share *mods* between the PC and PS3. Unless something's gotten lost in translation somewhere (though we are all speaking English), but that is what's been reported everywhere I've seen.
That's pretty sweet if true. I don't think that's ever been done before.
The PS3 should also support a standard USB mouse and keyboard for gameplay, if you want to play that way.
"I just hope the framerate on the PS3/360 is good."
Well, Resistance multiplayer basically never drops below 60fps that I've ever seen, even with 32 players on a map. And that was a launch title. I doubt UT's going to have much of a problem.
SeriousKriss @ Jul 21st 2007 4:18AM
Very good news. The PC version of Live is useless anyway since PC gamers have had Xfire for years now.
Davinche @ Jul 21st 2007 5:33AM
If I owned a PS3 the the reason I would get Unreal 3 on PS3 rather than 360 is not even about the user created mods, pc versus ps3 owners online play, or even use of KB+M.
Its the use of servers for online play. Seriously, its the one thing that PS3 online games simply outclass 360 games online for....lack of lag. PLaying resiatnce online and motostorm I realised just how insanely bad the host advantage was on Gears Of war ( A great game nonetheless) I understnad the issues with companies running servers letting them take it down when they wish, but lag is so much less on PS3 games online its not comparable, that if you get lag at all. When I first played a 20 vs 20 game on resistance at a friends house I was blown away by the fact I was not getting any lag at all. And if EPIC staff do not have better online coding for Unreal Tournmanet 3 I simply will not get it untill it hits the used market for 360, or when the PS3 gets a price drop in the UK.
Because from a long time gears of war player, the difference from hosting and not is insane, and if EPIC devs have not learned enough about coding online games for console hosting then we will have to fall out over it.
Steve Decker @ Jul 21st 2007 6:26AM
Why play any FPS on a console when you can play it on a PC?
Consoles simply suck at FPS games. GOW? Resistance? No thanks....they both had clunky controls.
What version of Rainbow 6 Vegas was the best? 360? PS3? Neither! PC version all the way.
Why play a dumbed down console game when you can have full control over every little detail in PC games!
Radont @ Jul 21st 2007 6:38AM
Will you play GoW on the PC then? I certainly will.
OSX @ Jul 21st 2007 8:04AM
I couldn't agree more. To this day, I have no idea why Sony wouldn't make mouse/keyboard game control as an option for all of the Playstation's games. So far, UT3 is the only one that will have it.
However, I DO understand why Micro$oft doesn't make 360's with mouse / keyboard play; because it would compete too much with Games for Windows.
Seems to me that the first console to have true mouse/keyboard play will be the one to really take a HUGE chunk out of PC gaming.
Poisoned Al @ Jul 21st 2007 6:26AM
Is it just me, or do comments take forever to appear these days (if at all)?
Poisoned Al @ Jul 21st 2007 6:28AM
Oh great, Joystiq at my long, rambling rant again! :p
Radont @ Jul 21st 2007 6:32AM
I'm actually glad that they are not including support for GFWL because I think Microsoft has handled the implementation horribly. Don't get me wrong, I like Microsoft and the 360 (though I do not own one) but I really don't like GFWL because it forces PC players to pay money for what we have always had for free (In-game VOIP). I could care less about the accomplishments.
I really hope Steam Communities really takes off and shows Microsoft what can be done on the PC.
Curmeo @ Jul 21st 2007 8:51AM
the PS3 version of UT3 is lookin' better and better every time. if the developers manage to pull off PS3 vs PC online gaming, PS3 version will have another advantage over the 360 version, aside from the mods sharing and keyboard/mouse support.
i bet load times will be better as well, via HDD game cache, although 360 version will prolly have slightly better graphics/performance.
anyhow, good news for PS3 owners.
fps_noob @ Jul 21st 2007 10:22AM
How can they be not sure if people want cross platform? Of course we want it!
I think the reason why this game is not using games for windows live is because they don't like how Microsoft tries to charge PC gamers like they do with console gamers. The PC gamers are just not used to such treatment.
Ben Hobbs @ Jul 21st 2007 10:51AM
Isn't this just inviting people to write cheat code for the PS3?
Surely if it can load a mod, it can load cheats?
Shawn D @ Jul 21st 2007 10:51AM
Best news in a while. I don't know one PC Gamer that wants their mouse and keyboard controls gimped to "even" the playing field for thumbstick users. UT3 is a twitch shooter, not a run and gun. They are going to have to implement crazy auto aim for the controller, not to mention, more liberal hit boxes.
aylera @ Jul 21st 2007 12:02PM
"Best news in a while. I don't know one PC Gamer that wants their mouse and keyboard controls gimped to "even" the playing field for thumbstick users. UT3 is a twitch shooter, not a run and gun. They are going to have to implement crazy auto aim for the controller, not to mention, more liberal hit boxes."
Exactly. UT is the least controller friendly shooter there is. If it went with GFW like Shadowrun, it would be dumbed down, and aiming would be taken out of the game. Honestly, let 360 players play by themselves, I don't see this game being fun with a controller at all. You don't float in air forever like Halo, there's no auto aim, and your characters move 5 times as fast as master chief. Good luck :P
I could care less about ps3 vs. pc play, just leave the PC version as it should be, not watered down.
jordi @ Jul 21st 2007 2:14PM
It will also be in linux/mac, if they use "live" only could be for xbox/windows.
Live is another monopolistic strategy of microsoft.
spike @ Jul 22nd 2007 8:33PM
I am HAPPY that the PC version won't have any Games for Windows B.S. - PC gamers should know by now that all that will bring is xbox360-like microtranactions for things that should be free anyways - to the PC!!
Now, I have a 360 and love it, but the PC has always been and always should have a more laissez-fair atmosphere.