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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 2:50PM (Unverified) said

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How well can one delude oneself in the hate of an inanimated object.

Well, to make a few things clear
Oblivion, Bioshock, Graw 1&2, Prey (not Pray), Lost Planet, The Darkness, Call of Duty 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, are NOT EXCLUSIVES. Too Human is not yet out.
"It is amazing you left out the exclusives comming this xmas season for the 360 while talking up the ps3 exclusives not even out yet."
True - we have about 3 good exclusives out this xmas for 360 (Halo 3, ME and PGR4), but after TWO years of launch.
At each stage after launch (year 1, year 2) compare the exclusives on both
10 months post-launch for PS3, some 5-6 interesting (maybe not all good) ones for PS3, how many on 360 in say September 2006?
Similarly, as on date - 20 months after launch - how many really good 360 exclusives? Three? Four?
To compare, count the number of AAA exclusives on PS3 scheduled by September 2008 (KZ2, GT5, MGS4, FF13, White knight, SOCOM, Wipeout, LBPlanet, Ratchet and more would be added in Oct 07-Sept 08, compare vs 360 titles out in Oct 06-Sept 07)
We have people who find none of the PS3 exclusives good and every one of the 360 ones amazing - get a brain.
And we never know how Lair, Heavenlt etc might turn out - but at least PS3 has some unique games. And similarly, we dont know how the bulk of 360 titles would be - Halo 3 and Mass Efect should be excellent, but the rest - Fable 2, the next edition of Splinter cell after the awful last one, Too Human - could turn out junk as well.
Or maybe people just expect PS3 to have 10 times as many exclusives in half the time - which is natural, after all we are comparing isnt a zero defect rate, 1200+ backward compatibility, free multiplayer vs you know what
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:23PM enbadesign said

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Oblivion, Graw, Call of Duty, The Darkness, GTA IV are all available on the PS3. Multiplatform titles don't really mean that much since sooner or later you can get them for your console of choice.

Games like Gears, Lost Planet, Bioshock, Overlord, and Mass Effect (most likely) are all available or going to be available on the PC. Halo 3 will be someday as well. These games are still superior and play superior on the PC. You can't count these games as XBOX exclusives because there is somewhere else, which in many views, is superior to play them on. The original XBOX was not a market leader becuase the FPS genre is not strong enough to carry a console system.

XBOX exclusives in other genres have their couterparts on other systems. A driving game is a driving game. Sure there may be differences but if you want to race licensed cars around tracks you will be able to do so.

The modern FPS genre is over 10 years old and really hasn't changed since Half-Life. The 360 still remains a hardcore gamer system flooded with non-innovative shooters.

At this point in time last year th eonly games anyone talked about on the 360 were Oblivion, GRAW, and PGR. At the sime time in the PS3 lifecycle it has Oblivion, GRAW, Motorstorm, R:FOM, Ninja Gaiden, and Rainbow 6 Vegas. The system has games worth playing and plenty to keep you busy unless you burn though 3 games a week. All the 360 fanboys were screaming, Oblivion is worth the $400 I paid alone. They said it for GRAW and then later for Gears. Now this year they'll say it for Halo 3 and Mass Effect. Still all of these games on a console make me say, meh. Yes there are millions who will sell out thier mother to get those games but not 100 million people.

The PS3 still has a wider selection of games and genres that will be available to a broad audience. Many of whom will have already bought a Wii. Thats one major problem and one that affects the 360 as well. The PS3 does have a lot of added value in the Blu-ray player at least.

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Posted: Aug 1st 2007 10:54PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think its too early to say the is good or not. I mean its basically finished. There are PLENTY of trailers out there. Some people have played it and given their impressions. I think by now most have a general idea of how they feel about the game.

However reviews do matter to a lot so they may wait to see what the general consensus is among the gaming review community.

Personally I don't see whats so appealing about the game outside of the graphics which are excellent.

But the game besides have fuck ugly rats with wings doesn't seem to have great controls or an awesome storyline. Plus it seems to be more of the same hack and slash type of deal.

Which is fine. I like hack and slash but for a system thats struggling like the ps3 games like this just won't cut it. It has to be spectacular.

And as sad as it might be for sony fanboys they do have to admit that this game could end up being mediocre or even worse...just plain bad.

Posted: Aug 1st 2007 11:17PM (Unverified) said

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Of course, to you, any PS3 news is bad.

I'd rather a delay than something wrong at launch. The way I see it, the delay gives me more time to pay off my pre-order.

How does that make you feel? I pre-ordered LAIR even though I've read dozens of your anti-PS3 posts you have made since its original "gone gold" announcement.

Do you really think that you sway people with your FUD JohnyBoy2You part duh?



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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 10:46AM (Unverified) said

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yeah, Matt B, but what's it mean when every firstparty Sony game gets delayed upon delayed upon delayed?

do you know the original launch dates for Lair and Heavenly Sword? and Motorstorm was supposed to be a launch game.

it's almost false advertising at this point, convincing people to get a PS3 early (like me) in hope of games you can't get on the cheaper 360. so far i have a grand total of two.

nope, the sony drought continues, while the PS3 keeps getting cheaper with more bonuses thrown in (and possibly a new rumble controller) as Sony keeps abusing their "brand loyalty" asking you and everybody to keep on waiting.




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Posted: Aug 1st 2007 11:09PM (Unverified) said

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there's actualy no official date set for HS at this moment.

Posted: Aug 1st 2007 11:11PM (Unverified) said

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Fuck, YES. I know this is merely a cover up to fix the controls, but this game deserves to have one last chance to escape the fate of merely being "average" due to poor controls.

Posted: Aug 1st 2007 11:20PM (Unverified) said

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I was going to respond to that but then I realized it's all based on game preference. And then I realized that, eventually, one of the uberfantards who drop a list and give the other fantards ammo. And then I realized Jesus stole the hubcaps off my car. Now I'm a sad panda.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:53AM (Unverified) said

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It's a damn good thing that you dropped dime on Jesus with Godisamyth mysteriously absent. We'd never hear the end of it! Next time try something like "Jesus miraculously made my hubcaps disappear" or tie something in, maybe, "Even Jesus couldn't save Lair". Do I have to do everything?!
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 10:35AM (Unverified) said

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maybe godisamyth god banned for being TOO RIGHT
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 11:02AM (Unverified) said

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about religion maybe, but that's certainly it.



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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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oh Jesus can I borrow your crowbar? To pry these goddamed nails out they're beginning to hurt, crusified and all I got was this lousy t-shirt, I can't believe it's not butter I'll sing as I'm flogged...ya that's what I would do if I were God.

Saysaysay....I GodisaMyth have changed my name to Hard Gay. Oooohhhhkkkkkaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:04PM Crono141 said

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Why am I not suprised?

Do you respect you father on fathers day?
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 6:57PM (Unverified) said

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I never said it was Jesus Christ. It was Jesus Mandez. I grabbed him from in front of Home Depot to clean my car and sure enough, hubcaps... gone.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 1:00AM (Unverified) said

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If the gameplay hasn't gotten a lot better than the last time I saw it, they need more time than unil September. All flash and no game.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 1:10AM Shagittarius said

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I'm starting to think this may be just to add the new improved rumble tech to the game since rumor has it we will be seeing these controllers on shelves soon.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 2:09AM jorojoserojas said

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@ Baineblade

FOM is "Fall Of Man". It was actually R:FOM (Resistance: Fall Of Man).

It took me a little while to remember that too.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 4:14AM Ironmanxrs2 said

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In the words of Dave Chapelle.... What can I say about Lair that hasn't already been said about Afghanistan.... it looks bombed out and depleted.

The PS3 pisses me off most of all because I want to want to get one. That is not a grammatical error. I want to want to get one. There are no must have games. I have a 360 already. Sony, could you atleast try to coax me into getting a PS3 by releasing SOME good games. I want a HD movie player.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 4:59AM (Unverified) said

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guess the SDF cant defend everything...least theres other exclusives too tide you over till MGS4

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 9:03AM baby sea tuna said

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Yeah, but they seem to have a lock on how to exploit this new "heart rating" system.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 8:23AM sand0789 said

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Though there are only two official reviews, they state exactly the only things I've heard from people playing the game.

Visuals are great
Sound is absolutely superb
Premise is kickass (don't have to play to know that)
Gameplay is dull
Controls need serious work

I seriously haven't read an impression yet where the game was absolutely a blast to play. It has been more of an example that you can squeeze 360 level graphics out of the PS3. I personally don't think the game looks all that fun from the few gameplay clips that I have seen. It looks solid, but not great. Gameplay looks slow and awkward. Hopefully they prove me wrong.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 8:29AM sand0789 said

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I'm in the same boat. Want a PS3, but when you already have a 360, there really isn't much on the other side. Some fun little diversions, but there isn't yet a awesome uber-game that I can't live without. Oblivion is one, but I have access to that already.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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Name one another game for you Xbox, other then Gears thats exclusive to Xbox, thats good.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 10:57AM (Unverified) said

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shawn,

i hate lists so i'm not going to do one. but with the 360, it's not about exclusives.

with any game that comes out on both 360 and PS3, is an automatic 360 win.

because the 360 is significantly cheaper and multiplatform games come out considerably earlier (and normally better performing because of ease of development) with platform features that PS3 doesn't have (rumble, in game XBL) the pressure is on Sony to have exclusives, not Microsoft.

ok damn it here's a little one, both capcom games, graw1, crackdown, forza, pgr and others. gears is certainly not the only good exclusive for 360 no matter what anyone tries to tell you.





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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 9:50AM (Unverified) said

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Hey guys, what's going on?

Anyone mention 5.5 yet lolololololololololol

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 10:08AM (Unverified) said

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How can EGM reviews be so shitty while Gamespot, IGN, and other give such promising Previews. Someone is full of shit, and either EGM or Factor 5 creditability is about to become dog pooooo... Heres some previews that makes the game sound promising.


http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/lair/news.html?sid=6174463
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/801/801928p1.html

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 8:31PM (Unverified) said

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...

You have not been around the gaming circuit long enough have you? All previews for games are very positive because they are hoping that what ever issues that come up will be fixed, so they lessen the blows. When the review comes out, they rip the game to shreds.

What rock have you been living under?
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 11:45AM (Unverified) said

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The delay is 3 weeks people. I doubt that is enough time to impement a completly different control method. Besides, Sony wants to prove that the Sixaxis is the real deal. To change or add to the controls would not be a good idea.

Sony, to tide us till the 4th, can u release the demo now?

Once September starts...I do not know where I will find the time or the money to play all the games I want.

Ramen Wars....FFFFooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:00PM xGearSecondx said

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Sonybots am cry ;___;

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:08PM xGearSecondx said

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And the Fonyfan bois list wars gets shorter by 1 of games that are "Totally Go1n 2 PWN 360/Wii and make Sony Winnar..lolz!!".

This is waht... the 2nd or 3rd game that got hyped and was a let down. The first I remembered was Motorstorm..I know there was somethign else too though, but oh well. Wii60 FTW.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:08PM Crono141 said

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Not really. The already have the range of tilt values set to control the dragon. All the have to do is map the analog stick to the same range, and then tweak it.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:09PM Crono141 said

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in respons to Hard Gay

Wooooooooooooooo!

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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I dont care if it is delay bc i know when it comes out my system will not be redlighting by then...

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 12:32PM MLC said

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@ Baineblade

1st, you really got be joking with that list of games you named. Gears is the ONLY game you have considering the 6-hour run through. COD2 was the only game the 360 it had in its launch. FORZA 2 looks like crap compared to GT5. Oblivion looks way better on PS3 than on 360. The darkness came out on both systems the same time, genius. Overlord and Too Human doenst come out til next year(check IGN). Halo 3 is nothing but HAlO 2 in HD and Viva Pinata....I dont even have to say anything about that game. Thats funny you even mentioned that game. You probably have to sleep with a night-light or acutally what elementary grade did you last complete?

I am so sick of people saying that "Sony is pushing Blu-Ray on us"... If you cant afford it, then dont complain.

Everybody wasnt saying this crap when the PS1 launched and playing CDs or PS2 launched and was playing DVDs...

If you feel this strongly about SONY or technology has a whole advancing, then I suggest you stop playing SONY, M$ or Nintendo's current consoles and go back to using cartridges, JACKASS!
It is hypocritical for YOU and anybody else to say "sony is pushing blu-ray" when you bought a PS2 and that had DVD! Or did you and the rest of the 100 million people that has or had 1, wait til the PS2 was $150-$200 to buy 1(sarcasim)?

Technology gets better and better and sometimes upgrades need to be made. I dont know will Blu-Ray ever succeed like CD or DVD has but, the 1 thing the format has in common with the others, is they were the MAIN formats in the Sony PlayStation consoles.

PEACE!!!

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 1:05PM (Unverified) said

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you're the jackass Mike,

the PS2 was $300 at launch, DVD was a bonus. PS3 is double the price and you have to pay dearly for blu-ray. so far, playing *games* on the ps3 is bonus.

it's sony that has to come with the exclusives not microsoft. the vast majority of 3rd party games on the cheaper 360 come earlier, play better and have features PS3 versions don't, like rumble and XBL.

microsoft exclusives are bonus at this point. i already mentioned these but you chose to skip both capcom games, graw1, pgr3 and crackdown.

how come?






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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 1:34PM (Unverified) said

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1. overlord just came out about a week or 2 ago

2. because there was only one option for larger storage at the time, ps1 had to go cd, and ps2 had to go dvd. sony is "pushing" blu-ray cause there is a format war between them and hd-dvd for the next storage medium



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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 1:44PM (Unverified) said

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Spin Sony Fanboys Spin!!

There is no way this game with get regular controls in that timeframe or fix the mess that is LAIR. Do you realise what kind of QA testing has to be done when you introduce a whole new control scheme?

I respect EGM more than most review sites, if they give it a 5-6 and say it's not good I believe them. I mean how fun could a Panzer Dragoon rip-off be? Ride dragon, shoot fire, rinse and repeat. It's a shame Sony fanboys had to tout this game as the second coming of Christ. Is this the power of the cell at work? Is this the 25 gig Blu-ray only action at work? Has next-gen started yet? blah!

Waitstation 3 definately lives up to its name.

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 2:07PM (Unverified) said

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ADR, you make good points only when lining up the 360 and the PS3 together as if they launched together. but they didn't.

not only does that matter, it matters a lot. ask the PS2.

the 360 launched with no next-gen competition, and the PS3 launched not only with two competitors, but both are significantly cheaper.

with multiplatform coming out earlier and looking better on 360, and Sigma being a third remix of an xbox game....they are far from where they need to be.




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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 5:01PM MLC said

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@ Digi Smalls


Really stop playing yourself. DVD players had high prices when first launched or did you forget that? You take up for what ever you want and bash Blu-Ray all you want.. Just so you know, if your beloved HALO movie comes out on a disc it would be in HD exclusively on Blu-Ray.

Also, I chose to ignore the capcom games because they were garbaged. PGR3 and PGR4 looks the same. I mean, except the Bikes(nice upgrade). As for crackdown, nobody wouldnt have bought that game if is wasnt for the HALO 3 beta which was received as crap itself.

As for your cheaper comment, cheaper doesnt always mean better.. If being cheaper is acceptable, then dont get upset when the Wii has beaten the 360 in total sales in the next few weeks... Just because M$ made the 360 cheaper doesnt mean they fixed the failure problem either(OUCH)!

Say what you want.. I'm a gamer and delayes suck. I know what 1 wanted when i bought my PS3. Quality! It is on paper the most powerful system available and having games or not doesnt change that.
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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 7:00PM (Unverified) said

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you "choose" to ignore a lot. only thing worse than ignorance is deliberate ignorance.

enjoy that spec paper then Mike, xbox1 users did the same last gen, look what that got them.




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Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 3:06PM (Unverified) said

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"with any game that comes out on both 360 and PS3, is an automatic 360 win."
Lets see why
"because the 360 is significantly cheaper"
But with no multiplayer or online coop for games like Rainbow six, Gears, GRAW. Add in the cost for 4 years and what do you get?
"multiplatform games come out considerably earlier"
genius, R6, GRAW came out earlier...when the PS3 was not on sale! And heard of VF5, Haze, UT3?
"and normally better performing because of ease of development"
For the first six months. checked PS3 version of Dirt?
"with platform features that PS3 doesn't have (rumble, in game XBL"
The second one I can agree...rumble, well, heard the rumours?

Posted: Aug 2nd 2007 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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hey rfom, if the playstation was $400 and the extra $200 was payable across 4 years, i'm sure many more people would be happier with it.

ha, you managed 3 earlier releases on PS3, do you really want me to list all the earlier releases for 360? yes i know it came out earlier, thats the point. and yes, i've beaten DiRT already, on my 360. have *you* seen it?

if they put rumble back into my copy of Motorstorm and Resistance, then i'll take all those rumble knocks back.



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