New cars (some free) hit Forza 2

Awesome! :-D

50 points is very reasonable for a car, too.

Thats great, but we need more tracks.

Blue Mountain, Rio, Tokyo, Road America and any other old tracks Im forgetting.

The Nurburgring F! track would be nice too.

Maybe all these cars and tracks would have been on the disc if they werent limited by DVD9 and used BD or HD-DVD.. its the same problem those PGR4 devs are bitching about.

^^^^What a joke...

hey how do you add a avatar?

Shouldn't the title of that post be (MOST Free) I mean 3 out of the 4 are free. :)

Second the avatar question. Im not particularly fond of marios face for my posts on xbox360 and ps3fanboy.

"Maybe all these cars and tracks would have been on the disc if they werent limited by DVD9 and used BD or HD-DVD.. its the same problem those PGR4 devs are bitching about."

Yeah. Maybe we they should have waited another year and charged us $600 for a "game" console with an HD format (blu-ray or hd-dvd). Then maybe we could have an stalled user base of less than 6 million. And maybe we can just sit there and watch movies on it all day long so we could have extra content on one game. Please, I hardly think releasing a game and giving consumers the "choice" in purchasing more options is such a bad alternative. Games are long enough as it is. Especially when we get more than a dozen more titles this fall.. does anyone really have time to play more tracks, stages, whatever. But I guess you can't make everyone happy. I'm sure the majority of 360 owners are happy though.

think i got it

wtf why aint my pic there, arrrrrgggh

dude there is no were to ask so chill

3 2007 Nissan cars for free? Sounds like manufacturers are paying to the game for advertising.

Easy big boy. The PS3 only has blu-ray to win the format war. People in the know are aware of that. I'll demonstrate.

For argument's sake, let's pretend Sony was not involved in a format war and only HD-DVD existed and cost the same as bluray. Let's also assume that Sony wanted to launch a $600 console no matter what, even if they had to use gold buttons.

They pick the cell, GPU, HDD, wifi, and everything else the PS3 currently has and are deciding what to use the remaining $140 of cost on. They have two options:

1) Delay the console a year and install a high capacity disc drive at the high cost. (one problem here is that HD-DVD drives are cheaper, yet I used the blu-ray price because that is what Sony spent. Just bear with me.)

2) Add more processing power, increase the RAM, pick a better GPU, eliminate processor bottlenecks, beef up the cell, and/or reduce the price of the console to consumers AND meet your target launch date to combat the 360. You couldn't do all of these, but you can do quite a bit of upgrading for $140. 1 gig ram instead of 500mb, GPU upgrade, and larger HDD (120 instead of 60Gb = $50, etc) could all be accomplished at that cost.

If it weren't for blu-ray and Sony put the cost elsewhere, the PS3 could easily run "Crysis level" games, graphically, right off of DVD9 like an uber PC. It would smoke the 360 like a little bitch. Bluray is a very nice feature, but it is not yet worth the cost to gamers. The money could have been better spent elsewhere, or not at all.

The advantage really isn't that big when you look at the games. Sure, Sony can toot their little horn every time a dev runs into space constraints, but that don't make the PS3 sell and it won't prevent, for example, Lair with its 25Gb file size from being a disappointment due to what most games become disappointments by, bad controls and weak gameplay.

Hell, if Sony really cared only about the gamers, they would have put an HD-DVD drive into their system, made the targetted launch, saved gamers $50, and still had no problems whatsoever with disc size. Then we wouldn't have this pointless format war.

But the PS3 is winning the bluray war and is accomplishing its goal. It will still do fine, get great games, and provide a nice bluray player to many people. I mean, it turned out great in the big picture. But if you are only interested in games and were set on a PS3, you got a bit bent over as a gamer for the greater good of Sony. It happens.

Joystiq, fix the post.

The Peugeot #8 car is 50 MS points.

Its the Nissan pack thats free.