New cars (some free) hit Forza 2
by Justin McElroy 
{ Aug 1st 2007 at 10:00AM }
About 50 points (62 cents) less free is Peugeot's #8 turbo diesel 908. Speaking in technical terms, gearhead talk if you will, this car is very, very fast. Both are available now on Xbox Live.
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Josh @ Aug 1st 2007 10:18AM
Awesome! :-D
50 points is very reasonable for a car, too.
tcc3 @ Aug 1st 2007 10:19AM
Thats great, but we need more tracks.
Blue Mountain, Rio, Tokyo, Road America and any other old tracks Im forgetting.
The Nurburgring F! track would be nice too.
Josh @ Aug 1st 2007 10:28AM
I've seen screen shots of Road America, so I'm pretty sure that is coming.
Konny @ Aug 1st 2007 10:22AM
Maybe all these cars and tracks would have been on the disc if they werent limited by DVD9 and used BD or HD-DVD.. its the same problem those PGR4 devs are bitching about.
Scott @ Aug 1st 2007 10:28AM
They are limited by time and development effort as much as they are limited by space.
GT5 won't have as many cars as previous versions for this very reason. They've already stated as much because it takes something like 180 days for one person to create a car.
Josh @ Aug 1st 2007 10:27AM
And maybe it would have meant that Forza wouldn't have been released until today instead of months ago.
For all you know, the Forza 2 disc isn't full.
Jake @ Aug 1st 2007 11:15AM
Actually, Forza2 is 6.5Gb in size, using almost 80% of the possible space. So, you're dumb.
Zeus the God @ Aug 1st 2007 12:44PM
I don't believe 2 15MB files will fill in that last 2.5GB, especially seeing as how those would be compressed further when added to the disc.
So, you're dumb.
GearsMaster @ Aug 1st 2007 10:26AM
^^^^What a joke...
Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 10:35AM
hey how do you add a avatar?
Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 11:10AM
hmm has it gone into effect yet?
3cubedminus3squared @ Aug 1st 2007 11:52AM
Nice pic. hehehe
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Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 12:00PM
yea i just wish it was compatable with moving gif's i had a much better one i wanted to use.
3cubedminus3squared @ Aug 1st 2007 3:36PM
I had a moving jif too. oh well.
Matt @ Aug 1st 2007 11:30AM
Shouldn't the title of that post be (MOST Free) I mean 3 out of the 4 are free. :)
Dadidito @ Aug 1st 2007 10:44AM
Second the avatar question. Im not particularly fond of marios face for my posts on xbox360 and ps3fanboy.
Mortensen @ Aug 1st 2007 10:55AM
"Maybe all these cars and tracks would have been on the disc if they werent limited by DVD9 and used BD or HD-DVD.. its the same problem those PGR4 devs are bitching about."
Yeah. Maybe we they should have waited another year and charged us $600 for a "game" console with an HD format (blu-ray or hd-dvd). Then maybe we could have an stalled user base of less than 6 million. And maybe we can just sit there and watch movies on it all day long so we could have extra content on one game. Please, I hardly think releasing a game and giving consumers the "choice" in purchasing more options is such a bad alternative. Games are long enough as it is. Especially when we get more than a dozen more titles this fall.. does anyone really have time to play more tracks, stages, whatever. But I guess you can't make everyone happy. I'm sure the majority of 360 owners are happy though.
Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 11:10AM
think i got it
Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 11:11AM
wtf why aint my pic there, arrrrrgggh
Zeus the God @ Aug 1st 2007 11:22AM
Dude, this is not the place to ask.
Blizz4l9 @ Aug 1st 2007 11:27AM
dude there is no were to ask so chill
MooseMuffin @ Aug 1st 2007 11:32AM
3 2007 Nissan cars for free? Sounds like manufacturers are paying to the game for advertising.
Stupidiot @ Aug 1st 2007 6:24PM
It seemed to happen with the Cadillac cars that were released for PGR3, and I think Test Drive Unlimited, too.
chris @ Aug 1st 2007 6:33PM
Cadillac did it with PGR3 as well. It's a far better form of advertising in games than to slap images on billboards and stuff, and works perfectly fine in racing games where all you want it more new cars anyways.
Jake @ Aug 1st 2007 11:32AM
Easy big boy. The PS3 only has blu-ray to win the format war. People in the know are aware of that. I'll demonstrate.
For argument's sake, let's pretend Sony was not involved in a format war and only HD-DVD existed and cost the same as bluray. Let's also assume that Sony wanted to launch a $600 console no matter what, even if they had to use gold buttons.
They pick the cell, GPU, HDD, wifi, and everything else the PS3 currently has and are deciding what to use the remaining $140 of cost on. They have two options:
1) Delay the console a year and install a high capacity disc drive at the high cost. (one problem here is that HD-DVD drives are cheaper, yet I used the blu-ray price because that is what Sony spent. Just bear with me.)
2) Add more processing power, increase the RAM, pick a better GPU, eliminate processor bottlenecks, beef up the cell, and/or reduce the price of the console to consumers AND meet your target launch date to combat the 360. You couldn't do all of these, but you can do quite a bit of upgrading for $140. 1 gig ram instead of 500mb, GPU upgrade, and larger HDD (120 instead of 60Gb = $50, etc) could all be accomplished at that cost.
If it weren't for blu-ray and Sony put the cost elsewhere, the PS3 could easily run "Crysis level" games, graphically, right off of DVD9 like an uber PC. It would smoke the 360 like a little bitch. Bluray is a very nice feature, but it is not yet worth the cost to gamers. The money could have been better spent elsewhere, or not at all.
The advantage really isn't that big when you look at the games. Sure, Sony can toot their little horn every time a dev runs into space constraints, but that don't make the PS3 sell and it won't prevent, for example, Lair with its 25Gb file size from being a disappointment due to what most games become disappointments by, bad controls and weak gameplay.
Hell, if Sony really cared only about the gamers, they would have put an HD-DVD drive into their system, made the targetted launch, saved gamers $50, and still had no problems whatsoever with disc size. Then we wouldn't have this pointless format war.
But the PS3 is winning the bluray war and is accomplishing its goal. It will still do fine, get great games, and provide a nice bluray player to many people. I mean, it turned out great in the big picture. But if you are only interested in games and were set on a PS3, you got a bit bent over as a gamer for the greater good of Sony. It happens.
Slaziman @ Aug 1st 2007 12:44PM
Amen good sir!
And by the way, your profile says you've made 1616 posts on Joystiq! That's sick xD!
Zeus the God @ Aug 1st 2007 12:46PM
Joystiq, fix the post.
The Peugeot #8 car is 50 MS points.
Its the Nissan pack thats free.